Gordon Shumway
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Massive Duck. C.M.
Banned
PS4. About to have a highly questionable R. Mika by the weekend!
I just skimmed through it (don't ask how) and aside that my rig can't run it properly (looks great, but "runs" at snail pace) holy shit, it's barebones.
Also apparently no one can connect to play against another? Shit. I'll should be surprised but seing what Double Helix (and later Iron Galaxy) did with a lesser franchise this is just appaling how it got released.
Then again, it's capcpom. Not too mad tho' they give me more time to buy a decent vidcard.
MikeBreezy92
Member
Sever issues. Lackluster lobbies is the only thing I'm really pissed off about.
Yeah, it's more of the servers being lol worthy.
For PC, the tutorial happening before anything, and not knowing what your keys are...that's a pretty basic oversight.
They were in the PC version, but they were sort of hidden - there's the big settings option on the main set of choices, and then on the side there's another settings button which takes you to graphics and such. All I saw for graphics on PC were just resolution and maybe one other box, though.
I know they wanted to get this out for CPT...but man, they really could have used like one or two more months. They're missing a lot, and with the servers being borked (which is expected, first couple of days), it's at the worst point currently it will be until DLC starts coming out.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=1_F98FnkFwk
I hate everything about this character. I hate her prolly better to call it a bikini. I hate her hat. I hate her bayonetta ridiculous but not intended as irony "sexy" walk animation. I hate her cat ears and tail. I literally hate all of this design.
Trash.
EdibleKnife
Member
Finally sure that that's skin she's showing. I can think of infinite better designs for that character, my god.
Massive Duck. C.M.
Banned
Ah. Yeah, that's skin but I never control the mages in Star Ocean unless I'm doing the coliseum, so it's whatever.
bobbychalkers
Member
Gordon Shumway
Banned
Massive Duck. C.M.
Banned
Yep. You, Duck and Mizerman, i Can't.
But. Faded and Breezy, i could.
I don't think so, because when i was trying to add Gordon earlier, he was online.
But the way the online has been, i wouldn't surprise me.
Kid Kamikaze10
Member
Oof! Utter destruction!
I think SF5 exposes a big reason why I have an issue with the current state of Fighting Games. Beat em ups too but more Fighting Games.
Just a serious lack of content and pushing the genre forward in ways that aren't totally about refining old gameplay systems.
I grew up on Weaponlord, Tobal/Ehrgeiz, Bushido Blade, Power Stone, and the Def Jam series, so I want more fighting games to go beyond the typical SF or Tekken/SC style of gameplay.
I was playing SFV with a friend of mine and let me tell you, there is always something that I notice about people's opinions. The more they catch me off guard, the more interesting I find them to be. He told me, I'm paraphrasing here, that SFV reminds him of playing the Super Nintendo. As if the way the game plays feels "antiquated". I didn't have any opinion about what he said until now. Does his comment somewhat relate to what you're referring to?
Gordon Shumway
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MikeBreezy92
Member
Because those systems really don't need to evolve beyond being "different" every iterations. The games you listed just weren't popular enough to warrant the move towards those games. Traditional Fighting Games are, dare I say it, perfect.
Content hasn't really been an issue though tbh. That's just a SFV thing. Who tryna catch these hands though.
This is interesting. I don't know enough to directly comment on this statement but I'll add something. That newest Naruto game is like the 6th game in the series. The series itself is almost 10 years old and there are still gaping flaws in the fighting system. That is why I can never take it seriously. Regardless of whether or not it is meant to be taken a seriously, I think the more traditional fighting games series' developers have closely tuned and molded their games into being somewhat balanced and functional through any given situation.
MikeBreezy92
Member
Why bother with balance when people don't buy the games for that? Same reason why MK is just now getting legit fighting games since MK9 when besides UMK3 being a fluke balance wise(see Melee also) it wasn't too much of a concern.
Yeah, that was the point I was trying to illustrate that you already pointed out in the post above.
Gordon Shumway
Banned
LOL. If you click on CFN, then scroll all the way to the left it shows you who you have on you capcom list. But i still have to add you. (you could still invite me to a lobby, as you saw.)
Gordon Shumway
Banned
Damn. Game is looking fine. I haven't looked at it in a while but those graphics looks great compared to Tales of Lastgenia. As for the stripper character, I hope we can change her clothes. I know that things are different in Japan but they went too far on that one. It's just not realistic. I watch a lot of anime (expert) so I know that all of the male party members should be having nosebleeds.
I've never played a Star Ocean game. It's good to read that all of the party members are controllable. Unfortunately, I always play mages. I hope there's more than one.
Massive Duck. C.M.
Banned
The only other one I know of is the creepy doll-faced heroine, but there's usually a decent percent of the party.
I'll be maining the melee woman
Gordon Shumway
Banned
Everyone is leaving..
Prototype Viktor
Member
Capcom be like "I see you WB not having your shit working, just wait til we get there!"
To be frank that kinda sounds like where you're coming from. That sort of talk, which is like joking hyperbole 99% of the time, is isolated to threads about games that somewhat encourage those sorts of jokes but are also games we don't really care about and can easily ignore. People say dumb but inoffensive things on the internet in places where it doesn't harm or derail nearby conversations, news at 11? Not throwing shade your way to be clear, I just I can't be bothered to care and I'm not sure why you care enough to let it bother you.
I'm skeptical you were that interested in the game to begin with (which is fine of course). I legit can't think of a game where one character was so dumb that it put me off from buying the game (as opposed to just being worthy of critique). Like it would have to be straight up in the realm of unambiguously and unjustifiably racist, sexist, homophobic, etc. as opposed to just dumb (which is what this is). Or is this one small cut placed on top of 999 others? (But then again that would just mean the game overall looks unappealing to you).
I feel in a lot of ways, Fighting Games have gone backwards in terms of single player content. Online play used to be a luxury but now its mandatory. That's a good thing of course in our changing world but instead of just that being incorporated in the standard list of features as an addition, it seems it has taken the place of single player content. I can excuse indies having barebones launches and, to be fair to Capcom, they seem to have a pretty aggressive intent to add content, but they are CAPCOM and this is STREET FIGHTER - the premier FG IP, not some risky enterprise. Why did they skimp on so much here - especially when they had Sony money too. It's so weird to me.
Young Magus
Junior Member
Same as GAF name
andthebeatgoeson
Junior Member
That's not progress. Delete that link. They'll be calling their senator in 2 days if they find out we are benefiting from something.
Massive Duck. C.M.
Banned
Doing the Mika story mode now...these art panels hurt my soul
And it's over in like 7 minutes-_-
And it's over in like 7 minutes-_-
I feel for Bengus. They must have worked that dude to the bone to get him to crank out so much stuff and so fast. I have no idea why they dumped all that workload onto one guy. The art clearly suffered as a result.
Also, yeah - weakest excuse for a "story mode" I can remember in a fighting game in a while. I would say just Youtube them but then you wouldn't get dat Fight Money
andthebeatgoeson
Junior Member
Onion gives no fucks
Massive Duck. C.M.
Banned
I guess the full stories are out in June? Wild.
I haven't followed much of the info so I didn't realize they'd be piecing it out.
And actually I'm liking most of the panels;it's a shame the 3D models are hit and miss
I haven't followed much of the info so I didn't realize they'd be piecing it out.
And actually I'm liking most of the panels;it's a shame the 3D models are hit and miss
Young Magus
Junior Member
Looking back on it yea I did come off too strong in my disapproval about the topic. I guess its just that there so much discussion going on with the same tone/motion that I`m just like :martin: about it.
But you right tho, I shouldn't be this upset about it. But I am still sporting the :dahell: in regards to the dumb stuff that gets said when the game is discussed.
And I understand fully that theres no shade bruh
Kid Kamikaze10
Member
And I think that's why I find the genre so antiquated, because to me perfect is boring. The enemy of progress. Other genres push forward, even stuff that have it's traditionalists like FPS' and RPGs.
But it seems like fighting games is the only one that thinks it doesn't have to do anything new. Rather see games fail taking risks than be borderline monopolized for one style of gaming (competitive/tourney play in this case).
More importantly, I think there's room for both competitive fighting games and adventure/single player fighting games.
Considering that I've played every Star Ocean, Tales of, and almost every Tri-Ace game up to this point, I'd say I was pretty interested. This, plus fucking pancake face's shrill voice are putting me off.
Especially when the face was pretty damn easy to fix:
(art from NeoGAF's own Dice//)
That, plus the fact that the series went from good to fucking trainwreck and that the games from my perspective have been declining from the first game (SO > SO2 > SO3 >>>>>>>>>>> SO4) and I'm generally worried.
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I just found out that VA not only has ramen shops, but that we have a LOT of ramen shops.
Gordon Shumway
Banned
Who knows..but they need to throw more money at this shit.
So that happened.
I was ordering an art commission from an artist that I had found on tumblr, but is also on deviantart. It was of one of my characters wielding a weapon and on their commission page they mention that weapons cost extra. Thats all well and good. So today Im talking with said artist about the commission and working out the details. They quote me a price that does not include the weapon. They dont mention that the price doesnt include the weapon. I agree to that price. Then they send me their paypal address and tell me that the total price is going to be $5 higher than what we agreed on. Now, $5 isnt going to break me, not remotely. But I dont think that most people would react well to a sudden jump and I say as much. In fact heres what I said exactly (after sending the money):
I dont think I was being unreasonable. I had requested a weapon from the start so I would think that since the artist knew this that the quoted prices would have included it. Ive been commissioning art for a decade and Ive never had the price change after all the details were decided.
Heres what I got a a reply:
Im a little nonplussed at this response, to be honest. People usually dont take issue with someone trying to help them out, but if they responded this badly to constructive criticism, then I probably would have had issues later if the art wasnt as correct as I would have wanted. Sad to say it, but I probably dodged a bullet.
Long story short: dont be sensitive about people trying to help you out.
Oh and I never got a response on what I did to offend them. I did, get accussed of talking to them like an robot. I dunno. Maybe people are just that different in Sweden.
I was ordering an art commission from an artist that I had found on tumblr, but is also on deviantart. It was of one of my characters wielding a weapon and on their commission page they mention that weapons cost extra. Thats all well and good. So today Im talking with said artist about the commission and working out the details. They quote me a price that does not include the weapon. They dont mention that the price doesnt include the weapon. I agree to that price. Then they send me their paypal address and tell me that the total price is going to be $5 higher than what we agreed on. Now, $5 isnt going to break me, not remotely. But I dont think that most people would react well to a sudden jump and I say as much. In fact heres what I said exactly (after sending the money):
I dont think I was being unreasonable. I had requested a weapon from the start so I would think that since the artist knew this that the quoted prices would have included it. Ive been commissioning art for a decade and Ive never had the price change after all the details were decided.
Heres what I got a a reply:
Im a little nonplussed at this response, to be honest. People usually dont take issue with someone trying to help them out, but if they responded this badly to constructive criticism, then I probably would have had issues later if the art wasnt as correct as I would have wanted. Sad to say it, but I probably dodged a bullet.
Long story short: dont be sensitive about people trying to help you out.
Oh and I never got a response on what I did to offend them. I did, get accussed of talking to them like an robot. I dunno. Maybe people are just that different in Sweden.
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