Gordon Shumway
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Really? LOL
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Yeah he's up in the KKK thread talking about slippery slopes.
Edit: I actually got banned for telling someone to fuck off and not because of Mr Anti-semitism.
Don't want dude to think what he tried to do was effective.
Massive Duck. C.M.
Banned
Yeah, between liberals who like Colbert but aren't big on black people, and black people who like Rock in general, I'd say the difference is split at least on the internet.
Personally I feel there's more criticism thrown Chris Rock's way than Colbert's while Suey Partk had the anti-PC goons harassing her till she took a seemingly permanent break from online activism for daring to challenge Colbert. It was a lot of you "guys don't get comedy!" and paternalistic bullshit ("Colbert is one of the good guys how dare you call him out") from the liberals thrown in the mix too. With Rock, even the anti-PC people seem pretty quiet right now but I guess that's because he isn't talking about not giving speeches to the coddled college kids they dislike so much. Idk The difference here is pretty stark to me.
Gordon Shumway
Banned
Oh, I know.
Massive Duck. C.M.
Banned
Are you comparing Colbert and Rock or Park and Rock? It's not really clear what your line of thought is from your posts.
Rock's not going to get heat or at least not as much of it, for the same reason Colbert was propped up-a lot of people are indifferent to anti-Asian racism. If someone of Park's level were to come out against Rock, you know pretty much all attacks would flow his or her way.
I'm a little pissed my fam.
I tried to play Firewatch for the first time today on PC. (I pre-ordered it, just did get round to playing it till now.)
But when i booted it up, it was going completely mental ( controller constantly pulling to the left)
So i went to the forum to look for help, and i see there's a sticky about it. one of which was check that your drivers are up to date.
That isn't the thing the made annoyed. What wound me up is, that this problem has been going on since it's been out apparently.
Now i'm a reasonable fellow (i mean look at my tag) and i don't like to go off complaining like this, but how can you still not have this IMHO major bug fixed yet, ya know.
The worst part is, i can't get a refund cause it's been out longer than two weeks.
Sorry for the poorly articulated rant with horrible grammar.
I tried to play Firewatch for the first time today on PC. (I pre-ordered it, just did get round to playing it till now.)
But when i booted it up, it was going completely mental ( controller constantly pulling to the left)
So i went to the forum to look for help, and i see there's a sticky about it. one of which was check that your drivers are up to date.
That isn't the thing the made annoyed. What wound me up is, that this problem has been going on since it's been out apparently.
Now i'm a reasonable fellow (i mean look at my tag) and i don't like to go off complaining like this, but how can you still not have this IMHO major bug fixed yet, ya know.
The worst part is, i can't get a refund cause it's been out longer than two weeks.
Sorry for the poorly articulated rant with horrible grammar.
Ming-na Wen?
I'm comparing both situations in their entirety btw.
I'm going to be completely honest; the Colbert joke from back then didn't sit well with me. I understood where park was coming from and definitely got her criticism of the joke (using anti-Asian racism, which often is trivialized, to explain to us why a team called the red skins is bad) although I felt #cancelcolbert was a tactical misstep. I witness a lot of come down on her real bad on Gaf and elsehwhere for attempting to stand up to the idea of well meaning liberals using anti Asian racism to tell jokes but I don't remember that resonating with people. I saw a lot of people dismiss this concern entirely and no one really coming to park's defense and no one really joining in on the criticism of Colbert's joke which I felt was valid. All the think pieces was pretty much defending Colbert and not being nuanced about this situation and made criticisms look ridiculous. This Chris Rock joke a comparatively less shitty joke imo gets more scrutiny than I remember Colbert getting and the think pieces aren't even rolling in yet. I'm not sure why this . I hope that makes sense now and it's fine if you don't see it the way I do. I'll live.
Gordon Shumway
Banned
That's shitty, Shy. So there's absolutely nothing you can do?
From what i understand no, just gotta hope the devs get round it eventually.
I hated ranting about, because it made me feel like one of those ignorant people on the net shooting their mouth off about shit they don't know.
Gordon Shumway
Banned
Damn that's hot???
Nah it's a real shit situation. Thats not a rant it's a forewarning for buyers.
I would like to but as a broke sonfabitch especially since I'd need a computer to go along with it.
NipplesAndToes23
Member
Any of y'all dropping $800 plus on that HTC Vive?
Hahahaha still mad they got rid of the fan service. They should've went overboard with all genders
No, all that shit screams "fool around with a couple of times, then collect dust"
Gordon Shumway
Banned
Cerebral hypoxia..
Massive Duck. C.M.
Banned
Now now, don't get defensive.
Where are you seeing lots of criticism of Rock's joke? It's only been a day.
I remember the liberal scorn against Park vividly, I followed her on Twitter. Ming-Na Wen is not comparable because she doesn't go nearly as hard as Park and is also starting off from a comparatively higher position. You can't really combine the two situations because there are some fundamentally different levels of power at play for all actors. Chris Rock is black, but he's a longtime successful comedian who is also popular with many (though of course not all) of the people who also liked Colbert. He's also a dude. Ming-Na Wen is a Chinese-American woman, an actress not really known for any strong social position and not afforded the leeway with those that comedians often are. In the Colbert/Park situation, that power discrepancy was much more pronounced as Park isn't even a celebrity.
At any rate, the point of I'm saying is that I don't see this doing anything to Rock like it didn't to Colbert, mostly because of how lightly anti-Asian racism is taken, and I'm agreeing that that's not right. You had a lot of Chapelle syndrome with that audience: people laughing at the joke confidently even when it's on them, because they know that there are no real consequences for it.
That's fair. Maybe I'm taking the mess from my timeline and extrapolating it further than it needs to go.
Because it knows it's kinda dumb. Also unhinged Gordon is best Gordon.
BlackGhost
Banned
I haven't seen the majority of s2 yet, but based on s1 it embraces its crazy and silliness. I think it's pretty entertaining
The Order of St. Dumas popped up going full on ritual craziness and Azrael is showing up soon. So kinda, we'll see where it goes.
Why and do they have the gorilla dna?
There was a good article last year that talked about how Asians are in a weird place. Like a lot of the old generation tells the new to keep their head down and work hard and get accepted.
Massive Duck. C.M.
Banned
There are a lot of Asian people who don't get any kind of privilege though. You try to frame a discussion in terms of relative privilege, it's easy for people to tune out especially when they feel they're being wronged or actually are being wronged.
(Not sure exactly what subject you were discussing btw)
No one talks about Cambodians, Laotians, and the Vietnamese
They just showed up for generic "kill Wayne, destroy Gotham" nothing cool just stabbing some folk.
I mostly find Gotham more visually interesting and the villains far superior.
Prototype Viktor
Member
Out here in Houston they slinging coupon books
That's fair, I just can't mess with Gotham anymore
Is that Azealia Banks?
embrace it. all of it. immerse yourself in it like some kind of life giving pit that gives you life and keeps you eternally young. it gives only strength.
That was never going to happen.
I heard the porn is going to be dope.
NipplesAndToes23
Member
I'm with you on that. What I look like spending $800 on that? I wish a bitch would.
andthebeatgoeson
Junior Member
And ratings where down 6%. Thanks The Blacks.
Massive Duck. C.M.
Banned
People like to start shit.
It doesn't help that everyone is cosigning a drive by designed to start shit.
Some bean counter out there is furious.
This narrative that Rock is now somehow racist because of the actual work that he did do for Asians last night is starting to bug me.
Dude could have been like "Nah, getting the masses to reflect on their f'ed up stereotypes and the ill treatment of Asians worldwide at the cost of cheap manufacturing ain't any of my business. Let's run another Whoopi skit instead."
Dude could have been like "Nah, getting the masses to reflect on their f'ed up stereotypes and the ill treatment of Asians worldwide at the cost of cheap manufacturing ain't any of my business. Let's run another Whoopi skit instead."
It's a vocal and misguided minority. Puns are fun.
andthebeatgoeson
Junior Member
No lie, give it 3 days. When you are privileged, you get tired quickly about complaining. Before Friday.
Nope. I dropped money on an Oculus Rift (preorder) though, and pre-ordered a Samsung S7 to get the year of Netflix/GearVR.
Massive Duck. C.M.
Banned
What's the net benefit in giving Rock a pass for that joke though? It was flat.
Honestly, in real world terms what is there to be gained?
Honestly, in real world terms what is there to be gained?
You're saying the joke fell flat others are saying it perpetuates anti-Asian racism.
True.
He doesn't need a pass for the joke, I agree that it was a bust. I'm really not feeling anyone that wants to twist it and read what they want to out of it while simultaneously crying about exclusion from the cause, and backhanding the effort at inclusion all in the same breath.