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The Black Culture Thread |OT2|

harSon

Banned
I won't pretend to dig black women anywhere near as much as I dig white women. Asian women do nothing for me at all. Redheads don't really float my boat either. Thing is, in an ideal Hot Women thread, none of that should matter. If people could refrain from commenting on the tastes of others and just post what they like, we'd all be living in a sea of tits. A sea of tits. I know we can agree on that being a good thing.

Would you agree that this is a social symptom and not a biological one? I personally place attraction on an ethnic level a peg below racism (a significant distance between the pegs, but a peg none the less), considering that they both stem from social and environmental influences IMO.

And while your utopia sounds great, it unfortunately isn't going to work like that. Instead, we'll get an esquire thread where Rihanna or Zoe Saldana are labeled the hottest woman on the planet, and then subsequently receive a flood of rebuttals, 99.9% of which will be of white women.
 

SmokyDave

Member
Would you agree that this is a social symptom and not a biological one? I personally place attraction on an ethnic level a peg below racism (a significant distance between the pegs, but a peg none the less), considering that they both stem from social and environmental influences IMO.
To be honest, I don't really agree. When my dick jumps it's functioning at a primal level and social conditioning ain't even in the equation. I can't tell you why women with black or blonde hair drive me wild whilst women with brunette or red hair need some extra 'pow' to get me going (to be honest, I'll take a 8/10 blonde over a 10/10 brunette every time). I can't tell you why I like my women chunkier than society says is attractive (I'm no BBW chaser but my girls need some meat on 'em). I can't tell you why Asian women are almost sexless to me. It's not something I really need to understand because discriminating over potential mates or eye-candy harms nobody as long as the reasons are kept to myself and as long as that discrimination doesn't spill over into my real-life interactions with women. All I'd say is that I don't feel there's anything more to it than a straight eyes-to-dick connection. My brain only gets involved once I'm actually weighing up a real life partner and by that time, I've already narrowed it down to chicks that fit my physical profile.

I'm fucking shallow, basically.
And while your utopia sounds great, it unfortunately isn't going to work like that. Instead, we'll get an esquire thread where Rihanna or Zoe Saldana are labeled the hottest woman on the planet, and then subsequently receive a flood of rebuttals, 99.9% of which will be of white women.
That's exactly what would happen, it's a shit show and I will pin that one largely on social conditioning. We all lose out because people can't keep the negativity to themselves.
 
The only real prejudice I have about atttractiveness is, I know its not very common but, I don't find most blonde women attractive.

Of course there are some I find attractive, but the average blonde woman does nothing for me. Natalie Portman going blonde was and is a national, nay, a global tragedy.
 

harSon

Banned
Biological attraction along ethnic lines doesn't even make sense. It's social interaction and media consumption, and nothing more. If you took some random white dude, raised him in an all black neighborhood, and subjected him to nothing but Tyler Perry films, I guarantee his sexual tastes once being released into a more ethnically diverse world would harp back to his upbringing.

The constant bombardment of white people as the epitome of beauty within the media is the biggest offender, and it's then reinforced in many cases with demographics in one's immediate area that make the reinforcement of that belief easier. It's no different than any society's views on gender roles.
 

Jackben

bitch I'm taking calls.
If you took some random white dude, raised him in an all black neighborhood, and subjected him to nothing but Tyler Perry films, I guarantee his sexual tastes once being released into a more ethnically diverse world would harp back to his upbringing

It would be an interesting experiment. Personally I think you have a point. I think social conditioning does come into play and whether it's on a conscious or subconscious level may vary.
That reminds me, wasn't there a hot male thread for a while too? What happened to that?
Really? I didn't know that. Devo would probably know.
 
And now we get into "I just love all colors of women, I'm so totally not-racist and progressive" and "my preferred women look like this, with that body shape, I can't help it" and blah blah blah, and everybody feels like shit because they don't find this person hot like you find this person hot, and the beat goes on, and the beat goes on, and the beat goes on...
 

Satch

Banned
one of the biggest problems with hot women threads was that we couldnt have hot men threads [without straight men coming into the thread to steer the direction of posting for their own personal comfort]
 

Schlep

Member
Biological attraction along ethnic lines doesn't even make sense. It's social interaction and media consumption, and nothing more. If you took some random white dude, raised him in an all black neighborhood, and subjected him to nothing but Tyler Perry films, I guarantee his sexual tastes once being released into a more ethnically diverse world would harp back to his upbringing.
I think it's a bit of both (biological and social). Until I was 10 I grew up in an area where white was a minority, but after that was in a predominantly white area (I'm white). My tastes are anything but blonde.
 

SmokyDave

Member
Biological attraction along ethnic lines doesn't even make sense. It's social interaction and media consumption, and nothing more. If you took some random white dude, raised him in an all black neighborhood, and subjected him to nothing but Tyler Perry films, I guarantee his sexual tastes once being released into a more ethnically diverse world would harp back to his upbringing.

The constant bombardment of white people as the epitome of beauty within the media is the biggest offender, and it's then reinforced in many cases with demographics in one's immediate area that make the reinforcement of that belief easier. It's no different than any society's views on gender roles.
Since I was knee high to a grasshopper I've had a preference for blondes. Long before I was exposed to any sexualised imagery whatsoever. To this day I remember the two blondes that rocked my world in primary school (age 6) and I remember turning down their brunette friends that wanted to be my girlfriend even though I knew those golden goddesses were out of my reach.

I can't dispel your charge of socialisation because obviously I've been brought up in an environment that has told me that the ideal woman is white. Having said that, I also grew up at a time when Grace Jones was the epitome of the powerful woman and Nina Simone was probably the face I stared at most (on her album covers). Black women weren't really demonised here in the UK, even if they didn't get a thousandth as much exposure as white women. I've never been 'turned away' from black women in any way. I received virtually no exposure to Asian women until I was in my early teens and we've never clicked even though there are no negative cultural connotations towards Asian women that I know of.

One thing I perhaps ought to stress is that I'm not saying I don't find black women attractive, I'm just saying I find white women more attractive so if I posted 10 'Hot Women' pictures, all 10 would be white blondes (with thick thighs and wide jaws. Yum). That might give off the impression that I haven't appreciated the black women posted in this hypothetical hot women thread, even if I have.

Ultimately though, there are a lot of people that desperately want the world to know who they don't find attractive and for that reason a hot women thread is a bad idea.

And now we get into "I just love all colors of women, I'm so totally not-racist and progressive" and "my preferred women look like this, with that body shape, I can't help it" and blah blah blah, and everybody feels like shit because they don't find this person hot like you find this person hot, and the beat goes on, and the beat goes on, and the beat goes on...
Hot women: fucking shit up since 600BC.
 

Parallax

best seen in the classic "Shadow of the Beast"
one of the biggest problems with hot women threads was that we couldnt have hot men threads [without straight men coming into the thread to steer the direction of posting for their own personal comfort]

really? what the fuck?
 

SmokyDave

Member
That was my first hunch too.

"All those muscle aren't attractive!"

"That guy isn't ripped enough, I need to see veins!"
I know so many guys that reply with "what?! I'm not gay!" If a women asks them which men they think are good looking. I can reel off a list as long as my arm. Hot people are hot people, pretending you don't see it just makes you look daft.
 

Satch

Banned
Straight men were fucking with the Hot Men Thread?

we were discussing this very topic in the popgaf chat a while back, and Koodo (or Crumpet) dug up one of the old man threads. there were dudes in it trying to tell people how to post their hot men, because they're experienced in this kind of stuff or some dumb shit like that (one of them was spindashing)


i wish i still had it because the discomfort was hilarious. we were rolling lmao
 

Imm0rt4l

Member
I know so many guys that reply with "what?! I'm not gay!" If a women asks them which men they think are good looking. I can reel off a list as long as my arm. Hot people are hot people, pretending you don't see it just makes you look daft.

My sentiments exactly.
 
I know so many guys that reply with "what?! I'm not gay!" If a women asks them which men they think are good looking. I can reel off a list as long as my arm. Hot people are hot people, pretending you don't see it just makes you look daft.

I have a shit memory, I have a hard time listing hot men or women. When it comes to men in particular I'm such a hetero that I can only categorize them as 'ugly' 'average' or 'I understand why women want to ride him like he's the last chopper out of Vietnam'

Sharp chin, would not bang.

That jaw is way too strong.

I bet I can bench more than him!
 

harSon

Banned
Since I was knee high to a grasshopper I've had a preference for blondes. Long before I was exposed to any sexualised imagery whatsoever. To this day I remember the two blondes that rocked my world in primary school (age 6) and I remember turning down their brunette friends that wanted to be my girlfriend even though I knew those golden goddesses were out of my reach.

I can't dispel your charge of socialisation because obviously I've been brought up in an environment that has told me that the ideal woman is white. Having said that, I also grew up at a time when Grace Jones was the epitome of the powerful woman and Nina Simone was probably the face I stared at most (on her album covers). Black women weren't really demonised here in the UK, even if they didn't get a thousandth as much exposure as white women. I've never been 'turned away' from black women in any way. I received virtually no exposure to Asian women until I was in my early teens and we've never clicked even though there are no negative cultural connotations towards Asian women that I know of.

One thing I perhaps ought to stress is that I'm not saying I don't find black women attractive, I'm just saying I find white women more attractive so if I posted 10 'Hot Women' pictures, all 10 would be white blondes (with thick thighs and wide jaws. Yum). That might give off the impression that I haven't appreciated the black women posted in this hypothetical hot women thread, even if I have.

Ultimately though, there are a lot of people that desperately want the world to know who they don't find attractive and for that reason a hot women thread is a bad idea.

My posts aren't directed towards you then. There's a difference between a preference for a particular creed of woman and an outright refusal to associate yourself sexually with anything but X type of woman, and it's the latter camp I have issue with. We've had threads on this very same issue before (I think you may have been a part of them?) where people made claims that they only find X women attractive, and would never date Y or Z women under any circumstances.

There's nothing wrong with preferences. I personally love Blasians and Mulattoes, but in no way shape or form does that preference dominate my life in such a way where I'd go out of my way to pursue these types of women, at the detriment of any chance with women of differing ethnicities. I personally find beauty within all ethnicities, and wouldn't find issue in dating any of them. But then again, I'm multi-ethnic (Black, Spanish, Japanese, Italian and Irish) and was born in an all-black neighborhood for half of my life, and lived a city that was 30% white, 30% hispanic, 30% asian and 10% other thereafter.
 
Before it gets closed, or before it becomes a WHOOTY Appreciation Thread?
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Parallax

best seen in the classic "Shadow of the Beast"
we were discussing this very topic in the popgaf chat a while back, and Koodo (or Crumpet) dug up one of the old man threads. there were dudes in it trying to tell people how to post their hot men, because they're experienced in this kind of stuff or some dumb shit like that (one of them was spindashing)


i wish i still had it because the discomfort was hilarious. we were rolling lmao

im feeling really stupid because i have no idea what this means
 

SmokyDave

Member
I have a shit memory, I have a hard time listing hot men or women. When it comes to men in particular I'm such a hetero that I can only categorize them as 'ugly' 'average' or 'I understand why women want to ride him like he's the last chopper out of Vietnam!
Ah, fuck, you slayed me. I'm stealing that line.


My posts aren't directed towards you then. There's a difference between a preference for a particular creed of woman and an outright refusal to associate yourself sexually with anything but X type of woman, and it's the latter camp I have issue with. We've had threads on this very same issue before (I think you may have been a part of them?) where people made claims that they only find X women attractive, and would never date Y or Z women under any circumstances.
Oh, I know. Seen it in every hot women thread ever. For some, it's sincere and without malice but badly phrased or explained. For some, it's to get a rise out of other posters. For some, it's just straight racism in the only way they can express it without getting banned. I don't choose to analyse the individuals, I just wish they'd keep it quiet so we could all look at tits. I'll admit that I've been dragged into those kind of conversations trying to explain why preferences don't necessarily need to be rooted in brainless malice but it's pointless when the fact is that some of them are.

There's nothing wrong with preferences. I personally love Blasians and Mulattoes, but in no way shape or form does that preference dominate my life in such a way where I'd go out of my way to pursue these types of women. I personally find beauty within all ethnicities, and wouldn't find issue in dating any of them. But then again, I'm multi-ethnic (Black, Spanish, Japanese, Italian and Irish) and was born in an all-black neighborhood for half of my life, and lived a city that was 30% white, 30% hispanic, 30% asian and 10% other thereafter.
More power to you chap. The wider your net, the more fish you catch. My narrow preferences have seen me date fucking nutters just because they had a killer jawline that I couldn't resist :(
 

harSon

Banned
one of the biggest problems with hot women threads was that we couldnt have hot men threads [without straight men coming into the thread to steer the direction of posting for their own personal comfort]

They should have been banned for purposely shitting up the thread. Shit like that is stupid. Reminds me of the twerking thread we had where some dude went out of his way to post man twerking gifs.
 
If there was a hot black women thread, you can bet your bottom dollar you'd see "hey hey what's with all these hot black women where's the hot black guys" and then we got pictures of Idris Elba butt-ass naked or something, because hey, equality and shit, every thread just has to pander to me and my tastes.
 

Satch

Banned
im feeling really stupid because i have no idea what this means

there were dudes that posted in hot women threads a lot

so, because they had that experience, they thought they'd show up in the hot men thread to teach how to post hot men (???why??? lol)

and the people in the hot men thread didn't want their help... they just wanted to have their hot men thread in peace
 

BHZ Mayor

Member
there were dudes that posted in hot women threads a lot

so, because they had that experience, they thought they'd show up in the hot men thread to teach how to post hot men (???why??? lol)

and the people in the hot men thread didn't want their help... they just wanted to have their hot men thread in peace

Why indeed. Dafuq?
 

harSon

Banned
"She's pretty for a black girl"

My friend told me a story about his experiences during one Thanksgiving dinner where his sister in law was telling a story about her brother's prom date, and someone at the table asked if she was pretty, and his sister in law said "No, she's black." hahahahaha
 

Slayven

Member
Oh lord, my childhood is ruin. On Life time there is a movie about Kevin from the Wonder Years beating the shit out of DJ from fullhouse.
 
Oh lord, my childhood is ruin. On Life time there is a movie about Kevin from the Wonder Years beating the shit out of DJ from fullhouse.

♫What would you do if I beat you black and blue?
Would you stand up and walk out on me?
♫

I'm a horrible person, but that's the first thing I thought of when I read that post.
What's the name of the movie?
 
♫What would you do if I beat you black and blue?
Would you stand up and walk out on me?
♫

I'm a horrible person, but that's the first thing I thought of when I read that post.
What's the name of the movie?

"Kevin Beats DJ, We Swear"

Optimized to entice as many people as possible.
 
Women in the workplace are mean.

I walked into a conversation amongst 4 older women at work.

DAMN.

Saying the girls on the floor above us are jerks. Loud-mouthed, rude, unhelpful and mean spirited.

I said they have always been nice to me, then BOOM. "that's cause you're a man. If you were a woman nah uh, especially since you're young and thin."

I was laughing like crazy as they went through the list of other women here and sliced them up with percision like skilled surgeons. Imitations and everything.
 

Now fired from her job at a local Cold Stone Creamery on Thursday, the post was described as disgusting by the store's director who told the Modesto Bee that when he arrived to work he had more than 20 angry voice messages on his company’s machine directed toward Ms Helms.
Did racists get dumber?? All of these MORANS are using their real names on twitter and facebook. HELLO!!?? Never want to get a job again?
 
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