yea, the difference is probably pretty negligible actually, point still stands though since whitaker had to darken up significantly. Saying he was in blackface is to say that his oscar is predicated on him selling out, shucking and jiving and what have you. The implication that it's wrong to darken your skin up for a part in a movie doesn't sit well with me at all. That's the whole point of make up. That isn't to say that casting shouldn't take skin tone of the actor in consideration, they clearly should. But what happens when the best actor for the job is a few shades to light?
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yea, the difference is probably pretty negligible actually, point still stands though since whitaker had to darken up significantly. Saying he was in blackface is to say that his oscar is predicated on him selling out, shucking and jiving and what have you. The implication that it's wrong to darken your skin up for a part in a movie doesn't sit well with me at all. That's the whole point of make up. That isn't to say that casting shouldn't take skin tone of the actor in consideration, they clearly should. But what happens when the best actor for the job is a few shades to light?
I was referring more to Will's celebrity level. If Will was hired for a role like that, it wouldn't be for his acting abilities or his looking the part (similar to Zoe and this film).
You are right that the situation is comparable in regards to make up usage, but honestly how many darker skinned actors can you name that would have done a better job than Forrest Whitaker with that role? And can you honestly say the situation is the same for Zoe and the role for this film?
ok, but that has no barring on what I was saying, and I agree that Whitaker was great for the part(hence the example). What doesn't sit well with me is that you're saying he is in blackface. That word shouldn't be thrown out so haphazardly. There are connotations that come with that term that is still relevant today. You said that blackface today isn't quite what it was back during the minstrel era, that it isn't necessarily just used for lampooning blacks. I'd argue that blackface today is something more along the lines of that racist holiday zwart piet.
equating this
to this(a black woman making her skin darker for a part)
is disingenuous. And it only undermines the bullshit blacks had to put up with decades ago when we were being made fun of. Blackface is some seriously offensive shit. What's offensive about Zoe Saldana is that she was casted because Hollywood doesn't care for dark skinned black women which is racist/colorist but that is a whole nother story, which I'm sure you and I will agree on (it's some bullshit).
yea to look like Nina. Realistically they should have never casted her ass to begin with and gone with a talented dark skinned woman who'd likely closer resemble Nina.
thats cause people are too sensitive.
what zoe is doing for the nina simone flick is not blackface. stop reaching.
This. The shit gets a pass.
Not saying her ass should have been casted to begin with. But saying a black woman cannot make her skins a few shades darker for a film role makes no kinda sense.
Bay Maximus
Banned
Maybe this has been addressed, but why in the hell is Viola Davis not playing Nina Simone? That would've been my first call. (Zoe would have been right before Eva Mendes.) Edit: I see that I'm waayyy late, but if everyone is seeing it why can't the creators?
First Drake, my CSI peeps? The legion of brown is hurting right now. But we still have a trump card; Obeezy.
Well-earned, PTW.
First Drake, my CSI peeps? The legion of brown is hurting right now. But we still have a trump card; Obeezy.
Well-earned, PTW.
I think it has to do with looks / whitewashing depictions of black people as much as possible in order to draw in more of an audience. Hollywood and colorism
The Faceless Master
Member
hey... i don't actually see anything wrong with Zoe using makeup and prosthetic parts for a role... i was just imagining out loud about how AWESOME the reactions in a thread about those pics would be.
Black Republican
Member
anyone got a side chick, fuck friend?
Rayven_king
Member
i have a side chick
A lot less do now after the CIA shitstrom.
Rayven_king
Member
if he'd exercised his pimp hand like a g instead of being a simp this wouldnt have happened
Then how about you bring this argument up in some of the many GAF black face threads?
Obama's America: Student renact Chris Brown beating Rihanna in......
2nd Grader goes to school in black face, part of MLK costume (with pics)
Cowboy cheerleader caught up in blackface controversy
White man uses Black face to rob banks.
COOL RUNNINGS MAAHN! Costume gets kids in trouble
In NONE of these threads are people lampooning black people or using black face in the traditional 1800s minstrel show definition. I know what the term black face is supposed to mean and the history behind it. But the rest of the world uses it in a different context now and so I'm using it in that context. I understand if that context isn't traditionally correct, but that's an argument for another time.
Also, not every usage of black face in those times was for the sole purpose of lampooning black people vs shows refusing to hire black actors and instead casting white ones. That practice was also offensive, and this is why I have a problem with Zoe because even though she is black, she has less "African" features than many other black actresses that could have fit the role and IMO the film makers are doing a "milder" version of the practice I just mentioned of excluding black actors.
FreeMufasa
Junior Member
Anyone seen the interracial porn video on wshh? Camera guy is interviewing a girl and asks her about black guys. Straight away she blurts out NO and says how her mum would disown her if she did it.
So she gets blindfolded and thinks she's blonde dick. Black guy comes in and after 20 mins of love she takes it off. Well, I'll let you guys see the reaction lol.
This is something I always wondered with people that are so strongly against sex with black people. If it just happened somehow, what would their immediate reaction be.
So she gets blindfolded and thinks she's blonde dick. Black guy comes in and after 20 mins of love she takes it off. Well, I'll let you guys see the reaction lol.
This is something I always wondered with people that are so strongly against sex with black people. If it just happened somehow, what would their immediate reaction be.
PartTimeWarrior
Banned
I'm sure you know that was staged, right? People get off on that shit
Jackben
bitch I'm taking calls.
I've not seen the video but there is very little chance it's not staged, just like all the casting couch videos. There is no way the girl doesn't know what is going down. The closest I think you would come to that in reality is the traditionally anti-black girl who secretly wants to be fucked by a BBC. Scenarios like that or the casting couch videos are enjoyable when browsing porn, I just don't ever put much real thought into them because they are all carefully crafted things built to stimulate our male fantasies.
FreeMufasa
Junior Member
Yeah. Never knew this shit was a "thing" though,
Zeus Molecules
illegal immigrants are stealing our air
I dont think most interracial porn is made for black men.
That shit was staged
Dude you're being obtuse as hell. Dealing in absolutes won't help your argument either. There is nothing wrong with zoe saldana darkening up her skin. Nothin wrong with forrest whitaker making his skin darker for the last king of scottland. PERIOD. You say it doesn't get a pass. YES IT DOES.
Dude you're being obtuse as hell. Dealing in absolutes won't help your argument either. There is nothing wrong with zoe saldana darkening up her skin. Nothin wrong with forrest whitaker making his skin darker for the last king of scottland. PERIOD. You say it doesn't get a pass. YES IT DOES.
There are clear differences between Forest Whitaker darkening his skin for that role, Zoe in this scenario, and random white kids being ignorant on camera.
Very much true as well.
Very much true as well.
Rayven_king
Member
This reminds me of the time I broke it to my friend that bangbus was staged, for him It was like finding out santa was actually your mom that's leaving the gifts on christmas
PartTimeWarrior
Banned
I wasn't trying to be obtuse, but obviously this argument isn't going anywhere/neither of us is going to budge from our view on Zoe's make up, so let's just agree to disagree and keep the topic moving.
Dreams-Visions
Member
PM LINKZ PLZ!
look. this would be so much easier if yall would stop beating around the bush w/ all this blackface bullshit and just said "i just dont like zoe" or "i really dont think she's a good actress"
it's that easy.
no need to put paint where it aint.
PartTimeWarrior
Banned
Its on her face!
EDIT: GG Onemic, It was a bit laggy for me so I couldn't really do a ton of combos. You ever watch Marvel played competively?
"Let's talk about bitches" It is like inside the actor's studio for black male pornstars.
Ya. Ive just always hated the game, but decided to give it another go yesterday.
PartTimeWarrior
Banned
You should definitely stick with Morrigan. You do the down, down + 2 buttons super to get her clone super and you spam fireballs. Throw in Doom with Hidden Missile assist and you can lock people down.
MorisUkunRasik
Member
I have a confession to make. I suck at fighting games. I have the worst memory ever which makes remembering combos impossible. I've only ever been good at Soul Caliber and only for the Dreamcast for some reason. Taki ruining fools.
Sending those "Good Morning" emails weaken your fingers.
PartTimeWarrior
Banned
I got clumsy hands, too (That's why I like grapplers)
PartTimeWarrior
Banned
Tag Tournament 2 or T6?
MorisUkunRasik
Member
Nah uh, I ain't tha 1.
I would play doom, but hes too high execution for me. You have to know how to triangle jump and his combos all require you to be able to consistently dash down forward. I just cant.
i used to be good at fighting games then i got a 360 instead of a ps3 and stopped playing them.
dualshock or bust. cant play stick at all.
tekken is my game of choice. i'll also accept soul calibur.
i wish they'd make another guilty gear, but do something about all the super high tech in it.
dualshock or bust. cant play stick at all.
tekken is my game of choice. i'll also accept soul calibur.
i wish they'd make another guilty gear, but do something about all the super high tech in it.
PartTimeWarrior
Banned
Doom isn't required, but recommended. Sentienl w/ drones works too
I've spelled out exactly why I had a problem with Zoe in the role for multiple posts already. No need to put words into my posts that don't belong because you don't want to address the bigger Hollywood issue (or don't want to read). You could have put Halle or any other lighter skinned black actress in Zoe's place and my response would have been the same to the make up.
FreeMufasa
Junior Member
Lol women simp HARD for famous dudes.
Don't feel bad, we all have our hang ups. I can't play dota2 or any rts games for shit.
SousedLouse
Member
Pretty much, it's like racist cuckolding. Interracial porn that plays up the different races is a specific type of smut for a specific type of viewer; for them it's part porno, part horror flick.
"BEHOLD! The TERROR of Black Cock!
CRINGE (and CUM)! As women are RUINED for MARRIAGE!
And MARVEL at the Jungle Bunny, in her natural urban habitat!
Coming soon, on [pay site with a fetish-specific name/horrible pun-based name]!"
lol
Me too, although grapplers don't really work well for me in Marvel 3; that's one reason why I'm not all that crazy about the game. I'm trying to get into it, though, if only because my friends play it all the time.
Rayven_king
Member
I'm average at fighting games like tekken and sc but I can still walk into the corner store and body those kids at king of fighters 2k3...
odd cause thats the best shit.
black female pornstars are slacking so hard. especially in the effort part.
black woman will be the first one to tell you what she *ain't* doing in the bedroom. So you don't even have to ask.