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The Black Culture Thread |OT3| Lighten Up
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Think so which means her clothes should definitely be fitted out instead of tight stuff but Kanye can't dress women for shit which he proved with his line.
Black Republican
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anyone here a fan of kung fu/karate flicks?
The Faceless Master
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Think so which means her clothes should definitely be fitted out instead of tight stuff but Kanye can't dress women for shit which he proved with his line.
The middle one looks like someone put a garbage bag on her and added some fur to make it look pretty.
She's rocking the fuck out of that fur lined garbage bag though
PartTimeWarrior
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Bayo2 and The Wonderful 101 already made me want one
Dreams-Visions
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Think so which means her clothes should definitely be fitted out instead of tight stuff but Kanye can't dress women for shit which he proved with his line.
oh dear god
eternaLightness
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Most "model" fashion is just so bizarre. I guess if you have enough money to wear most of that stuff, you don't care what you look like.
Think so which means her clothes should definitely be fitted out instead of tight stuff but Kanye can't dress women for shit which he proved with his line.
that doesn't look any worse than the usual shit you see going down high fashion runways. it's basically just art that you wear. most of it's not practical.
My sentiments exactly.
The Faceless Master
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Think so which means her clothes should definitely be fitted out instead of tight stuff but Kanye can't dress women for shit which he proved with his line.
the one on the left is ridiculous... the colors just don't work...
the others, they can pass...
Wanna get into them. I actually have a copy of the 36th Chamber of Shaolin but haven't bothered to watch it yet.
Although not Kung Fu related, I've also always wanted to watch Seven Samurai, hear way too many good things about it.
Duel to the Death is my shit: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8utvOMioMro#t=73m50s
R10Neymarfan
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So guys what is it with a Black fraternity that attracts the whole school population of black people?
Devolution
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Some stuff is bad but still fits people. A lot of his stuff is neither inspired nor well constructed.
By contrast
Not really into much of any of these looks but you can see the difference, I'm not big on fashion and I can. This is better though:
you mean wushu? I can't recall any donnie yen wuxia flicks though I'm sure he's in something besides his short spot in Hero. Also I agree. China seems to be making bigger budget movies now, especially since Crouching Tiger, most of stuff I see now doesn't really have heart though.
One of my favorite martial arts films of the 90's was a pretty simple one. Fist of Legend.
i just see artsy clothes hanging off people that could use a healthy helping of grandma's cooking.
it's just like the lunch in a high school cafeteria, except on a larger scale. people roll w/ what they know.
it's just like the lunch in a high school cafeteria, except on a larger scale. people roll w/ what they know.
Devolution
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Then you're not trying. I'm not even big on fashion and it's easy to see Kanye's shit is a schizophrenic mess.
Well, he's in a movie called Wu Xia, although it's not really like Hero. It's still good none the less.
Jest Chillin
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Ip Man 1 and 2 and Legend of the Fist are some of his bigger newer ones. He was also in Bodyguards and Assassins. There's a bunch of lesser known ones that he's dope in though like Dragon Tiger Gate (which was based on an old import Comic called Blood Sword Dynasty I think). Flashpoint is pretty good too but it's more gunplay than Martial Arts. There's probably a bunch more that I haven't seen too since I don't import.
Outside of Ip Man (the first film isn't really all that indicative of the genre IMO, but the second definitely is) and Wu Xia, his Wu Xia output has been pretty mediocre. The Lost Bladesman, Legend of the Fist, 14 Blades, Ip Man 2, Dragon Tiger Gate and Seven Swords were all below average. Bodyguards and Assassins was decent though.
Oh, I remember that movie, watched the first 30 minutes or so. I didn't like it. I kinda like what it tried to do though. The whole romanticizing the fight sequences into something thatt was larger than life. Not sure if I'm missing out, but it wasn't my steez.
I know what wuxia is, I was referring to him being a 'wuxia legend'
edits are confusing me.
You should have kept watching it. That aspect of the film is only true for the first 30-40 minutes. Afterwards, it transitions over into a more classic martial arts film. It's a lot like (only highlight if you want to be spoiled)
A History of Violence
Definitely give it another chance.
making my first appearance in the black thread
planning on making more regular visits satch?
making my first appearance in the black thread
is that from bayo 2?
Yup.
Devolution
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If you want good Donnie Yen you can go no further than SPL and Flash Point. His better days are behind him imo. They need a new charismatic guy that can play to audiences over here like Jackie and Jet did.
SousedLouse
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Think so which means her clothes should definitely be fitted out instead of tight stuff but Kanye can't dress women for shit which he proved with his line.
It's amazing how these outfits use so much fabric and still look so flimsy.
True, but generally an outfit should be able to withstand a light breeze. Half of these outfits probably couldn't manage that.
That might not be such a great idea. Putting all that personal information in one spot could backfire in the worst of ways if someone wanted to play GAF detective.
Yeah
I think I'll do that, maybe I'll peep that last movie you mentioned as being decent as well.
I thought flash point was ok, I agree it seems that his better days are behind. I haven't watched any of the other ip man movies after 2(don't think they even starred him anyways). Ip Man 2 wasn't that good imo, 1 was definitely better.
Devolution
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I think it's a matter of making them in a more appealing atmosphere. Plus asian leads are probably some of the lowest on the totem pole as far as what studios are willing to do. They always have to throw someone in with them and never let them stand alone.
As far as recent quality Wu Xia films, the only two I can recommend whole heartedly are Reign of Assassins, Fearless and Curse of the Golden Flowers (a lot of people are down on this film, but I dug the tragedy aspect of the film).
Everything else within the genre has been merely competent. I'm not a fan of Red Cliff, but a lot of people seem to like it. Detective Dee has its issues but it's still entertaining. If you can pretend that the last 35 minutes of True Legend doesn't exist, it's probably the best example of a modern Kung Fu film throwback that I can think of. Shaolin is actually pretty damn good now that I think about it.
Avoid Tai Chi Zero like the plague, and same with its sequel Tai Chi Hero.
Everything else is pretty forgettable and not worth mentioning IMO.
Everything else within the genre has been merely competent. I'm not a fan of Red Cliff, but a lot of people seem to like it. Detective Dee has its issues but it's still entertaining. If you can pretend that the last 35 minutes of True Legend doesn't exist, it's probably the best example of a modern Kung Fu film throwback that I can think of. Shaolin is actually pretty damn good now that I think about it.
Avoid Tai Chi Zero like the plague, and same with its sequel Tai Chi Hero.
Everything else is pretty forgettable and not worth mentioning IMO.
Yea, Asians easily have it the worst in Hollywood in terms of representation. I remember watching expendables 1 and being kinda salty that Jet Li had little screen time and what little screen time he had was him being relegated to short guy jokes and really poor fight choreography.
Jest Chillin
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It's popular but the fascination that the West had with it during the Rumble in the Bronx/Rush Hour/Hero period has waned.
There's only the two. They're making a third one in 3D though. That's not to be confused with the other movie about Ip Man that's coming out soon. Shit was in production for something like 6 years. Name escapes me at the moment.
Yeah that buddy movie shit is annoying. The largest issue though is that Western studios have trouble making quality Martial Arts flicks and the Eastern studios have to have this obnoxious National Pride angle (especially since China got Hong Kong back). It makes it difficult to market the films in other regions.
Jest Chillin
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True Legend did go incredibly long and meandered at the end, I'll agree. Detective Dee was more appealing to me for the mystery aspects. Love me some Detective style mysteries.
I plan on talking about it whenever the Minorities in Media podcast comes up. While Black representation within film and television is certainly lacking; Asian, Hispanic and Middle-Eastern (Well I suppose they're represented, but only as terrorists) representation is downright disgraceful.
Oldschoolgamer
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I think the differences have more to do with the differences between storytelling style between East and West, same as it is in film. Granted, in certain cases, you can easily see where the priorities vastly differ in gameplay and presentation. At the end of the day, the construct of the narratives and storylines themselves all come down to the writer and what the studio allows. Also, whatever genre is the flavor of the month in their respective countries.
Whenever I think of good game stories it's a mix, The Silent Hill series easily sits high on the list. Killer 7 and System Shock 2 are right underneath, followed by a lot of your list, as well as MGS 1 (4 is a fucking convoluted mess and what's wrong with both countries), Chrono Trigger, Earthbound, Ocarina of Time, etc... The major factor of these lists are that they are the example and not the rule.
To add on, none of those games you listed are known for having bad gameplay, so you didn't have a shitty game mar your experience overall...
Each of them tells their stories in their own special way: some a lot more subtle than others. I don't necessarily feel that you need to follow specific guidelines to have a story that would be "good enough" for Tv, Film, or a book, especially when considering that a lot of media between those three are just as trash as videogame stories, and some movies are known more for their ideas, more-so than their sophistication in narrative and plot.
I also think that the West's notoriety for having big budget cutscenes, huge set-pieces, and graphics tend to make a lot of games seem like they have a lot more structure to their narratives then they actually have. Granted, the East is following suit, I don't think everything needs to be spelled out, and something like Ocarina of Time would work just as well as any other story in a film.
I tend to think that a lot of Japan's storytelling catches flack, more because of the subject matter of the most prominent games, and less because they are somehow inferior to the west in terms of storytelling. For every teenager fighting God, there is a marine gunning down terrorists. That's a different story though.
Red Cliff isn't Wuxia.
word.
I can't even think of any up an coming Latino actors, though Michael Pena his doing his thing I guess.
what's your excuse?
PartTimeWarrior
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I had the best title and Dy was like "i'll go for this soft one because I can't take it."
ahh, i miss you satch
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