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The Black Culture Thread |OT4| Learn to love the BBC
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EscoBlades
Ubisoft Marketing
Real talk, anyone in this thread have a problem with the use of the word "nigga" around other black folks?
Nope.
Real talk, anyone in this thread have a problem with the use of the word "nigga" around other black folks?
I rarely use it, and if I do, it's jokingly or quoting someone.
MorisUkunRasik
Member
I rarely use it, and if I do, it's jokingly or quoting someone.
Which makes it weird when there are threads about white people not being able to use the word. It's like they base their image of black people entirely on The Boondocks and rap music.
It's anecdotal but most people I've met were similar in their usage of the word to you. Of course I've met guys who say it more than 'the' but in my experience that's on the extreme end.
Which makes it weird when there are threads about white people not being able to use the word. It's like they base their image of black people entirely on The Boondocks and rap music.
It's anecdotal but most people I've met were similar in their usage of the word to you. Of course I've met guys who say it more than 'the' but in my experience that's on the extreme end.
Now that I think about it I would put money on actual usage has decreased since the 90s.
Now that I think about it I would put money on actual usage has decreased since the 90s.
Really? I've felt like I've heard it more since then. And at younger ages too. High school's still a fond memory with the word being thrown around all the time.
Really? I've felt like I've heard it more since then. And at younger ages too. High school's still a fond memory with the word being thrown around all the time.
Maybe because I be more grown ass people.
Real talk, anyone in this thread have a problem with the use of the word "nigga" around other black folks?
Not really. I personally have been trying to lower my own usage of the term, but I recognize everyone's relationship to the word is different.
Real talk, anyone in this thread have a problem with the use of the word "nigga" around other black folks?
No, but then again, I rarely say it myself.
Not really. I personally have been trying to lower my own usage of the term, but I recognize everyone's relationship to the word is different.
You reminded me, I was listening to a podcast last night and it ahd some dudes from Baltimore on there. They were talking about free wifi at places, and the B-more dudes say they don't take their laptops nowhere cause there was a good chance they would not come home with them.
Vermillion
Banned
Real talk, anyone in this thread have a problem with the use of the word "nigga" around other black folks?
Nah. To be honest, I only recently started using it myself. Up to senior year in high school, I hardly ever used the word except out of necessity.
Some days I don't use it, some days I do.
Devolution
Member
When it comes to the use of pejoratives if you really had pals of that minority you could say those words because they know you're not a prick. So when someone comes out and is all "why can't I say ____" I always wonder.
Big Baybee
Member
Just curious. I think it's hard for people to wrap their minds around the fact that they are two different words with two different meanings/
You reminded me, I was listening to a podcast last night and it ahd some dudes from Baltimore on there. They were talking about free wifi at places, and the B-more dudes say they don't take their laptops nowhere cause there was a good chance they would not come home with them.
I mean....yeah. lol Unless you're in one of the nicer parts of town, like the area where my college was, it's best you not be seen with anything too nice.
There are a lot of nice areas and places in Baltimore, but if you're not careful, you can take that one wrong turn at Albuquerque and end up in Mad Max. My own neighborhood is an example; the five-ten mile radius is around my place is great. My friends are amazed at how clean and safe it looks. But five-ten minute drive will land you right back in the hood proper. lol
MorisUkunRasik
Member
When it comes to the use of pejoratives if you really had pals of that minority you could say those words because they know you're not a prick. So when someone comes out and is all "why can't I say ____" I always wonder.
I'm close enough to only one guy (he'd go on news broadcasts with me as my black friend if I ever get caught up in a race incident) where I feel comfortable saying it in front of and it wouldn't be weird cause we sling that type of dirt at each other. Even then it's like talking about someone's mom, if it's funny and isn't malicious it'll most likely slide but incorrect wording, context or tone might end badly. And that's most definitely a one on one thing, it looks too disrespectful to an unaware third party.
When we worked together and a customer called and he needed something he could say "Hey Jose (not my name), go get X for me and try not to take a nap on the way" He'd get a be-careful-stare and he'd wear a shit eating grin. But if the customer was physically there in that same situation and heard the exchange, that'd be different.
I think that the give and take of slurs amongst people may be another reason some white people never get 'permission' from their friends. If you go that route of dogging on eachother then what does the non-white friend get from their white friend? Gonna say you can't dance or say you sunburn easy? For lack of better wording, the trade is lopsided
Real talk, anyone in this thread have a problem with the use of the word "nigga" around other black folks?
I don't say it, but I'm not going to get bent out of shape about it if someone says it around me. I do cringe a little bit when non black people say it though.
Devolution
Member
I'm close enough to only one guy (he'd go on news broadcasts with me as my black friend if I ever get caught up in a race incident) where I feel comfortable saying it in front of and it wouldn't be weird cause we sling that type of dirt at each other. Even then it's like talking about someone's mom, if it's funny and isn't malicious it'll most likely slide but incorrect wording, context or tone might end badly. And that's most definitely a one on one thing, it looks too disrespectful to an unaware third party.
When we worked together and a customer called and he needed something he could say "Hey Jose (not my name), go get X for me and try not to take a nap on the way" He'd get a be-careful-stare and he'd wear a shit eating grin. But if the customer was physically there in that same situation and heard the exchange, that'd be different.
I think that the give and take of slurs amongst people may be another reason some white people never get 'permission' from their friends. If you go that route of dogging on eachother then what does the non-white friend get from their white friend? Gonna say you can't dance or say you sunburn easy? For lack of better wording, the trade is lopsided
The white person has to be even more close with an individual, and both have to have a good sense of humor. That's at least my experience. Also people who grow up in certain regions just get that comradery without trying that hard. Some language is just more intuitive to certain groups. At my school for instance people of just about every race were using "nigga" and no one cared.
Real talk, anyone in this thread have a problem with the use of the word "nigga" around other black folks?
I personally never use it, but it doesn't bother me.
ViewtifulJC
Banned
the word has been a part of my everyday conversation. I use it around white and black people interchangeably. Just yesterday in class, mothafucka walked in wearing his pajamas at 1:15 in the afternoon, "This nigga..."
Devolution
Member
the word has been a part of my everyday conversation. I use it around white and black people interchangeably. Just yesterday in class, mothafucka walked in wearing his pajamas at 1:15 in the afternoon,"This nigga..."
Best usage right there. Says everything.
EscoBlades
Ubisoft Marketing
Time for that drowning out effect.
Also, the genuine responses i got to this gave me a good chuckle today.
Also, the genuine responses i got to this gave me a good chuckle today.
the word has been a part of my everyday conversation. I use it around white and black people interchangeably. Just yesterday in class, mothafucka walked in wearing his pajamas at 1:15 in the afternoon, "This nigga..."
That's my favorite usage of the word. It's hilarious to me for some reason.
Time for that drowning out effect.
Also, the genuine responses i got to this gave me a good chuckle today.
I just feel like most gamers and devs don't have the tools talk about this stuff in a sane way.
Polygon always make me feel hipster.
MorisUkunRasik
Member
The white person has to be even more close with an individual, and both have to have a good sense of humor. That's at least my experience. Also people who grow up in certain regions just get that comradery without trying that hard. Some language is just more intuitive to certain groups. At my school for instance people of just about every race were using "nigga" and no one cared.
You have to lack a lot social awareness to get to the point of straight up asking someone.
A friend of mine throughout elementary and middle school was in the same history class as me. We were doing this project revolving around the revolutionary war. We drew the names of colonies out of a hat and then 3 main crops or exports from another hat.
I got whatever colony; tea, gunpowder and raw metal. He got his colony...and 3 cottons.
I gave him a 'I'm about to go in' look and he said, "Don't say a word". That plus never really talking much about race stuff and neither of us using slurs at that age made it clear what the boundaries were.
Real talk, anyone in this thread have a problem with the use of the word "nigga" around other black folks?
Nah.
EscoBlades
Ubisoft Marketing
I just feel like most gamers and devs don't have the tools talk about this stuff in a sane way.
Polygon always make me feel hipster.
I almost feel like we need an Anita Sarkeesian type figure to see the issue get any headway.
Big Baybee
Member
still need 80 dollars for ps4 #struggleisreal
Where did you pre-order?
EscoBlades
Ubisoft Marketing
still need 80 dollars for ps4 #struggleisreal
Kickstarter
I almost feel like we need an Anita Sarkeesian type figure to see the issue get any headway.
And the sad part is, the only reason Anita managed to get the issue any headway was because of the sheer amount of backlash and vitriol she faced after announcing her kickstarter. Had people managed to actually restrain themselves and not blow the story up, she would have made her videos, her normal audience would have watched them, and outside of a few articles on the series no one would be talking about it.
I'd love to see a video game equivalent to Milestone Comics come along, but I don't know if the game industry has its own version of McDuffie et. al. to make that happen.
CrazyDogg77
Member
the word has been a part of my everyday conversation. I use it around white and black people interchangeably. Just yesterday in class, mothafucka walked in wearing his pajamas at 1:15 in the afternoon, "This nigga..."
Yeah that's the best usage of it. And damn still in pajamas at 1:15 he fucking up
EscoBlades
Ubisoft Marketing
And the sad part is, the only reason Anita managed to get the issue any headway was because of the sheer amount of backlash and vitriol she faced after announcing her kickstarter. Had people managed to actually restrain themselves and not blow the story up, she would have made her videos, her normal audience would have watched them, and outside of a few articles on the series no one would be talking about it.
I'd love to see a video game equivalent to Milestone Comics come along, but I don't know if the game industry has its own version of McDuffie et. al. to make that happen.
You reminded me of this article actually.
A friend of mine wanted to do an opinion piece on black pros in the industry. When she tried to make a list of names, she struggled. I helped her add a few names, but it didn't come to much either. Told her that should be the main point of her piece.
amazon was going to sell my pspgo on there but i have 2 very fine scratches that are so light you cant see them but the will only give me 16 dollars with them scratches.Where did you pre-order?
Kickstarter
I might {spoiler] lulz [/spoiler]
I've read that article actually. I shared it on my fb and only response I got was the insistence that black kids didn't need more video games cause half of them can barely read.* lolYou reminded me of this article actually.
A friend of mine wanted to do an opinion piece on black pros in the industry. When she tried to make a list of names, she struggled. I helped her add a few names, but it didn't come to much either. Told her that should be the main point of her piece.
For me though, I obviously think it's important to have more minorities in the industry as that seems like the only way we're going to get more diverse games. Which sucks, because I think it's sad that game writers feel themselves incapable of writing minority characters without immediately falling back on lazy stereotypes. What's even more sad is the idea that minorities in games have to be justified through some kind of story reason while straight white dudes can be anything and everything without little need for any kind of explanation. But that's the way it goes, I guess.
*If curious, the guy was black. He's just one of those angry, super negative, faux-revolutionary types when it comes to race issues. He's mostly a cool guy otherwise, though.
TheKaeptain
Banned
Kaep Im sry.
Morris seek her out
She doesn't like Mexican dudes so he is SOL.
EDIT: harSon, question about Elysium. Is it has heavy on the Marxism? I said this in another thread but the trailers look like some took a Intro to Karl Marx class and never bothered to attend the past the second week.
GhettoGamer
Member
I rarely say nigga but when i do say it it be like "hey you seen Lou? Haven't heard from that nigga all day"
EscoBlades
Ubisoft Marketing
Which sucks, because I think it's sad that game writers feel themselves incapable of writing minority characters without immediately falling back on lazy stereotypes. What's even more sad is the idea that minorities in games have to be justified through some kind of story reason while straight white dudes can be anything and everything without little need for any kind of explanation.
For a lot of writers, this is their greatest fear. And their greatest failing at the same time. I was really happy when one of our writers for AC4 took time to do a lot more research than reading a book, especially for the black pirate that will appear in game.
I think the old saying "people what what they know" is true especially in gaming. A lot of devs are just not good writers and seem to have limited experience with minorities
Then I think some go out of their way to be assholes. In a world where they have cyborgs nobody should be shucking and jiving..
Then I think some go out of their way to be assholes. In a world where they have cyborgs nobody should be shucking and jiving..
For a lot of writers, this is their greatest fear. And their greatest failing at the same time. I was really happy when one of our writers for AC4 took time to do a lot more research than reading a book, especially for the black pirate that will appear in game.
Yeah that's a good look, and as a writer is what you're supposed to be doing. I've written stories with female protags, and my first instinct is always to go talk to my mom or my sisters or my friends to make sure I'm getting somewhere close to writing a believable woman.
But like Slay said, a lot game writers seem to have limited experience with minorities in general. That plus a genuine unwillingness to research and it's no wonder they'd all rather default the same shaved, 20-30 something white dude.
MorisUkunRasik
Member
TheKaeptain
Banned
I'll teach her
lol IDK she seems to be into some whites guys that look like hicks. We were talking a few days ago and she said that she thought this guy she met was cute. Straight up hick. Not even good looking. He looks like a sloth in wranglers. My buddy and I were just cracking jokes on the picture.
Also, talking to a foreigner about visiting the states is hilarious. She was telling me how some Navy dudes actually said "Love me long time" and shit like that.
Kaori's Babydaddy
Banned
Just curious. I think it's hard for people to wrap their minds around the fact that they are two different words with two different meanings/
Now that's just ignorance and I never say it. There's a particular reason why you don't hear people who've fought the through the Civil Rights movement use it. I hate it myself, but I didn't come here for that.
For some reason I still can't make a thread on these forums so I'll ask here. I know white nerds are a bit better with this, but can anyone recommend me a laptop for school usage? I want one with Windows 7, not 8. Thinking about buying a refurbished off of amazon, but not sure if those are reliable or not.
I'll teach her
I was going to make a joke but I will save it for the podcast.
Spring-Loaded
Member
Then I think some go out of their way to be assholes. In a world where they have cyborgs nobody should be shucking and jiving..
Are you talking about the greatest character in Deus Ex: HR?
She doesn't like Mexican dudes so he is SOL.
EDIT: harSon, question about Elysium. Is it has heavy on the Marxism? I said this in another thread but the trailers look like some took a Intro to Karl Marx class and never bothered to attend the past the second week.
I'm probably not the best person to ask since I've only the read the screenplay and won't be able to catch a screening until early next week, but from what I read in the script, the film is fairly heavy handed in its criticism of Capitalism and embracing of Socialism. It's pretty damn Liberal in terms of the underlying social issues being explored. It touches on class/(re-)distribution of wealth, immigration, healthcare, capitalism, etc. and it's not exactly cryptic in doing so. It does it in a way that is lazily blatant and in your face.
EscoBlades
Ubisoft Marketing
Now that's just ignorance and I never say it. There's a particular reason why you don't hear people who've fought the through the Civil Rights movement use it. I hate it myself, but I didn't come here for that.
For some reason I still can't make a thread on these forums so I'll ask here. I know white nerds are a bit better with this, but can anyone recommend me a laptop for school usage? I want one with Windows 7, not 8. Thinking about buying a refurbished off of amazon, but not sure if those are reliable or not.
Refurbs are usually okay, as long as they are factory refurbs. What's your budget? In terms of brands, for school you can't go wrong with Toshiba or a standard Dell.
Ima be real and upfront. I live by a strange philosophy. I believe in paying it forward. For example when I order food in a restaurant or deal with anyone in a customer service capacity, I greet and I ask hows your day going. And *surprise* I mean it. I believe that by doing that giving them that break from the rudeness and the bullshit from all the other folks they deal with on a daily, I tell them thank you and I preciate it. You would be surprised at how attitudes and just atmosphere change by just starting off like that. I do it with everyone and shit is solid. I fucking hate negativity and I do my best to approach anything with kindness. Even dealing with knuckleheads, fucksticks, and assholes I still keep that approach. When I was coming up I saw a lot of hustlers come at somebody correct you get that respect. You come at somebody sideways you get your shit split. Thats just gospel.
That's good stuff. After working a bit of retail and heavy customer relation stuff, I know how it feels being on the other end of that transaction for a whole work day. It sucks. Being good to people always works out for the better though.
Now that's just ignorance and I never say it. There's a particular reason why you don't hear people who've fought the through the Civil Rights movement use it. I hate it myself, but I didn't come here for that.
For some reason I still can't make a thread on these forums so I'll ask here. I know white nerds are a bit better with this, but can anyone recommend me a laptop for school usage? I want one with Windows 7, not 8. Thinking about buying a refurbished off of amazon, but not sure if those are reliable or not.
What is your budget? Also, is it just for basic things like schoolwork, email, social media, and Youtube?
I mean....yeah. lol Unless you're in one of the nicer parts of town, like the area where my college was, it's best you not be seen with anything too nice.
There are a lot of nice areas and places in Baltimore, but if you're not careful, you can take that one wrong turn at Albuquerque and end up in Mad Max. My own neighborhood is an example; the five-ten mile radius is around my place is great. My friends are amazed at how clean and safe it looks. But five-ten minute drive will land you right back in the hood proper. lol
What about the inner harbor? Maybe the occurrence of Otakon every year has an affect for that one weekend.
I think the old saying "people what what they know" is true especially in gaming. A lot of devs are just not good writers and seem to have limited experience with minorities.
I think that's definitely it.