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The Black Culture Thread |OT4| Learn to love the BBC
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Yea we can play armchair analysts all we want but we dont know shit about whats happenimg in the background, but thinking that there hasnt been an olive branch extended is naive. I dont see how anyone can spin indies as a negative.
Bagged milk
How does that make sense? With that logic, basically everything in existence cannot be criticized due to the possibility of there being something in the pipeline to rectify the issue. I can only go off of what Sony has shown. I'm no mind reader. The platform has been out for a year and a half now, and that's enough of a time frame on which to point out faults. This whole thing can be summed up by comparing Sony's efforts with the Playstation 4, and Sony's efforts with the Vita. With the Playstation 4, Sony is pushing Indie games hard, but they've also announced that they have 30 Sony published/developed games in the pipeline for the platform's launch year. They've gone ahead and told us that all Sony owned studios are working on Playstation 4 games. They've told us that they'll have 33 games released to the platform by years end. They told us that the system will have 30 Sony published/developed games to its name by the end of its first launch year. Despite the fact that the Playstation 4's lineup is currently somewhat lacking, in conjunction with Sony's recent history in the gaming industry, this transparency in foresight by Sony in regards to the Playstation 4 eases consumer's concerns about the current situation. The console's not even out yet and they're doing this. As I said, regardless of the situation now, it shows consumers and third party developers that they give a shit in the long run. In comparison, consumers are basically operating on faith for the future of the Vita as a platform.
Also, I'm not a fan of the Vita as a primarily Indie driven platform - from a purely fiscal standpoint - due to the fact that it's at odds with the identity of the Vita. The Vita was built to be a high spec'd platform relative to its field. It's a luxury item and its entry price is indicative of such an identity. I just don't see consumers dropping $200 plus the ridiculous cost of a proprietary memory card to play Indie games that can be found on other platforms. At least not a meaningful amount. Not many are going to drop $400 for a Playstation 4 to primarily play Indie games. Nobody is going to drop a large sum of cash to build a high end computer to primarily play Indie games. In these cases, people are making these purchases to play higher end games, and a great library of Indie games is a complimentary court/cherry on top. And that's my issue at the moment. They're trying to sell what should be a complimentary dish as a main dish, and at a premium price none the less. If the Vita were priced lower, then I'd have no issue with the gameplan, but as I said, with the current picture, the vision is at odds with the intended identity of the platform.
Up until recently, definitely. But that's likely to change given the new direction Microsoft is moving regarding its policies towards Indies.
The more viable platforms that sprout for Indies, the better off they'll ultimately be. As I said, it doesn't make sense for most Indies to restrict themselves to specific platforms and miss out on potential sales, which is why the long term proposition of an Indie focused gameplan is questionable to me.
Oh yeah, if i could, every game would run on everything that could execute code.
If someone wants to lock anything I make as an exclusive, they've got to pay handsomely, or I have to have an ulterior motive to making a game exclusive on that platform.
This is why Unity is exploding right now. The vast majority of indies are not going to be exploiting the limits of your hardware just due to a lack of raw manpower and the inability to hire hundreds of contractors and fire them at the end of the game's development. Unity advertises itself as the engine that's not going to set a cost expectation from your customers. It's capable, but not omgwtfgigafloops levels of technical execution. It also runs on damn near everything. Nintendo will give it to you for free and Sony will subsidize it a bit. MS currently does nothing about it. Hell, the reason I mentioned I'm releasing a game on Ouya earlier is because the engine that game was made on is running on damn near everything now, and the programmers of it are continually porting it to more platforms. Even if the Linux version sold 3 copies, that's still 3 more copies sold.
Epic has tried to recapture some of that lost base with giving out the UDK, but Unreal 4 licensees are still going to stagnate because Epic's advertising over the years makes people think Unreal Engine Game = The Latest Whizbang. They don't have a Renderware exodus to benefit from this time at the AAA level, and no indie in their right mind is going to agree to their licensing terms.
Byakuya769
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Mario kart and Mario land are console experiences that people convinced themselves aren't because Nintendo does it.
Those games are also pick up and play in nature, and lend themselves well to bite sized gaming durations. There are certainly games to make your point with though, Zelda for example.
Byakuya769
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Most games on psp/vita that ppl complained about had shorter and tighter missions also. Levels were generally smaller, also. I don't see any praises thrown towards Sly Cooper for its pick up and go gameplay.
Vita has its good share of those games as well. LBP, Wipeout, dragons crown, etc.
Both handhelds are actually quite equal in that category.
Not when that 70 dollar tablet doesn't play pokemon
Byakuya769
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Are kids still checking for pokemon? I don't know any kid that plays that stuff.
Byakuya769
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A sea of not-children.
Man children, sub species.
Vita wishes it had a puddle of not-children.
Massive Duck. C.M.
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EscoBlades
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My nephew plays it, but then again, I bought him the Black/White era Pokemon a few years ago for his birthday... so I probably spurred the habit. I haven't played a Pokemon since Red/Blue Lol. Not sure why.
The Wii U "L" kills it.
Seriously. My summer has been Gunpoint, Rogue Legacy, FTL, The Swapper, and Gone Home. Actually I'm just playing those because I got bored of how similar AAA games have gotten. Honestly, it's probably gonna be like that for the whole year too. I'm waiting to buy shit like Wasteland Kings and Spelunky over BF4 and Creed. Waiting on a PC version for GTA V.
Byakuya769
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Hahahaha. I think that's about right.
Pretty much
GotEmRunnin
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So...I'm staying out of that thread for a while. Don't want to be labeled animalistic or anything.
Yep...Pokemon World Championships here in Vancouver a few weeks ago had the older "kid" demographic locked up tight. Pretty cool, actually.
Massive Duck. C.M.
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Some of the people in that thread are the same ones asking "Why didn't Trayvon just magically teleport away?" in the Zimmerman threads.
Hey, no Pokemon ever called me nigger-unlike in CoD
EscoBlades
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Is Blastoise still god-tier?
ViewtifulJC
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Blastoise is always god tier in my heart
Professor Beef
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Massive Duck. C.M.
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Is SRIV that good? I have an unopened copy, but other games have been keeping me busy.
EscoBlades
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Blastoise was in every Pokemon team i ever set up back in the day. Ice Beam all day son!
Now I am imagining a big black dude showing and wining just by dehumanizing the competition.
That should be a Pokemon move anyway.
Jackben
bitch I'm taking calls.
Boss Riovane
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Yes......
Thanks for opening that wound up again but its damn good.
*punches trees and scares neighbors*
Professor Beef
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Boss Riovane
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So James Spader is Ultron.
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