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The Black Culture Thread |OT7| Luigi took our stare

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DY_nasty said:
The date rape vs stranger rape thing isn't strange at all. He's not saying one is "better" than the other and as far as I can tell, he's not trying diminish either.

How any of that translates to what Israel is doing is completely different. I still don't know that fits together.

Also, Israel's stuff along with Ukraine... I don't think people realize how stupid they sound talking about this stuff at times. It's really, really easy to recognize the person who operates solely on talking points and opinion pieces.
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He's saying that the creation of Israel was bad but it's destruction would be worse. He used a tautology to express his using date rape and violent rape as examples. He is saying that date rape is less bad than being rape at knife point.
 
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Infinite said:
He's saying that the creation of Israel was bad but it's destruction would be worse. He used a tautology to express his using date rape and violent rape as examples. He is saying that date rape is less bad than being rape at knife point.
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your typical internet analogy. overwrought and terrible.
 
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DY_nasty

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Infinite said:
He's saying that the creation of Israel was bad but it's destruction would be worse. He used a tautology to express his using date rape and violent rape as examples. He is saying that date rape is less bad than being rape at knife point.
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Yeah and I'm just like...

I'm sure Dawkins of all people could make up a better comparison than that. And not post it on fucking Twitter of all places.
 
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The analogy also implies that a stance in favor of the Palestinians not being blown to bits by the IDF is also in favor of the destruction of Israel. Richard Dawkins should just stick to what he actually knows.
 
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Infinite said:
The analogy also implies that a stance in favor of the Palestinians not being blown to bits by the IDF is in favor of the destruction of Israel. Richard Dawkins should just stick to what he actually knows.
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I'm not even gonna get into the Israeli-Palestinian shit. Its always been a long time coming but most importantly, ordinary people don't have the slightest grasp of how messy war actually is.
 
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DY_nasty said:
I'm not even gonna get into the Israeli-Palestinian shit. Its always been a long time coming but most importantly, ordinary people don't have the slightest grasp of how messy war actually is.
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Yeah I agree completely but I would say that the conflict going on right now is not actually a war at all. But yeah let's not get into this here
 
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DY_nasty said:
I'm not even gonna get into the Israeli-Palestinian shit. Its always been a long time coming but most importantly, ordinary people don't have the slightest grasp of how messy war actually is.
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You just gave immortal a boner

Immortal:"yeeesssss that kojima shit"
 
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Gorillaz said:
Pretty much. I was the same with a bit of Phil Collins stuff. Except for the later years.
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Phil Collins is so weird. Sometimes he is the realest dude ever, sometimes he's singing about Tarzan bullshit. Or that godawful Illegal Alien song. Then he does some shit like I Don't Care Anymore and you're like THIS IS ITTTTTTTT THIS IS IT! and then you hear Tarzan and wonder how the hell it's the same person.
 
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Vince McMahon said:
Phil Collins is so weird. Sometimes he is the realest dude ever, sometimes he's singing about Tarzan bullshit. Or that godawful Illegal Alien song. Then he does some shit like I Don't Care Anymore and you're like THIS IS ITTTTTTTT THIS IS IT! and then you hear Tarzan and wonder how the hell it's the same person.
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pls sunflower do not diss Tarzan that shit was my childhood breh
 
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ViewtifulJC said:
pls sunflower do not diss Tarzan that shit was my childhood breh
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Goddammit, I was a grown ass man when that came out
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It has been known for a while that Dawkins is an islamophobe, sexist and a stupid and boring religion basher with a superiority complex. Basically the perfect guy for r/artheism-GAF

He keeps criticizing all those people on twitter for not understanding nuance even though that's what his own arguments are lacking severely. Idiot should go back to writing books that atheist-GAF can jerk off to.
 
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lol

Also Richard Dawkins doesn't believe that social sciences are real but then gives his opinion on politics, using a social issue, with logic.
 
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Vince McMahon said:
Phil Collins is so weird. Sometimes he is the realest dude ever, sometimes he's singing about Tarzan bullshit. Or that godawful Illegal Alien song. Then he does some shit like I Don't Care Anymore and you're like THIS IS ITTTTTTTT THIS IS IT! and then you hear Tarzan and wonder how the hell it's the same person.
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Don't come for Tarzan fam. Just don't do it breh.
 
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All I mean is that Tarzan Phil Collins is not the same as I Don't Care Anymore Phil Collins. I was just too old to enjoy the Tarzan stuff, I think.
 
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Vince McMahon said:
All I mean is that Tarzan Phil Collins is not the same as I Don't Care Anymore Phil Collins. I was just too old to enjoy the Tarzan stuff, I think.
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I agree. I Don't Care Anymore Phil Collins is great. Tarzan Phil Colins isn't as good. If you think that's a diss towards Tarzan Phil Collins, go away and learn how to think.
 
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RP912

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I prefer "helpless because I saw him drowning" Phil Collins. Songs like One More Night and In The Air Tonight were his goat songs imo.
 
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Infinite said:
lol

Also Richard Dawkins doesn't believe that social sciences are real but then gives his opinion on politics, using a social issue, with logic.
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He's like the rapper everyone wants to just stick to rapping, instead of having one too many interviews.
 
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Vermillion said:
With regards to the previous discussion on Lucy (and lack of black protagonists):

http://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/5627318
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Literally the 1st/Top Comment:

"Pretty simple of you just to see color. It's people like you who are the problem in this country."

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As for the article, if I had actually seen the movie I'm not sure how many of those associations I would have come up with myself. Some are pretty obvious/damning, others are certainly open to unpleasant interpretations :/
 
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Wonder how the landscape has changed since then? I wonder if more people realize how fucking dogshit that ad is and horrible.
 
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I would make a topic for this, but I feel like I make too many topics. Worth reading, about street harassment:

http://www.theatlantic.com/politics...-youre-supposed-to-appear-that-you-do/375175/

A recent survey found that 65 percent of women in the U.S. had experienced street harassment, with almost a quarter of all women being approached and sexually touched on the street. That's a startling figure—all the more so because street harassment is rarely discussed as a policy issue.

You talked about experiencing street harassment since you were about 11, and many other women talk about it as a constant problem. As a guy, I think I have just about literally never seen a woman harassed on the street. Have you ever heard other men say that? How is it possible for this to be such a problem for so many people while it's invisible to others?

I'm pretty sure you have witnessed it, but you may not have recognized it as street harassment. We have been socialized to believe that interactions between men and women are about men being predators and women being pretty. We're so used to seeing these dynamics where a man is approaching a woman, and is being somewhat insistent about it, and we see women kind of smiling. Women have been socialized to believe the same thing, that you're supposed to be nice to a guy who's doing this, and even if you don't like it, you're supposed to appear that you do.

So what you may have seen is a guy walking alongside a woman and talking, and you may have seen her smiling, but for all you know he may be saying some really aggressive things to her, but you didn't hear it because you walked right by.

Holly Kearl, the founder of Stop Street Harassment (SSH), has said that street harassment cuts across economic classes and races. You've talked especially about the experiences of black women. Why do you feel that's necessary? What are the particular problems that black women face with street harassment?

SSH has really tried to amplify the movement all around the world. But the movement still continues to be focused on white women, often opposite men of color or black men. Sometimes it gets into, These savage black men are preying on precious white women. That narrative in the United States has gotten many black men jailed and killed. I wanted to focus on black women's experiences with [harassment] from anyone. It could be white men, Asian men, women—I've talked about being harassed by two lesbian women. But I wanted to center our voices, because I feel like black women's voices are not always amplified. And I feel it's my responsibility to do that.

In what ways do you feel that black women are particularly vulnerable?

We've been talking about the perception that black women can't really be harmed, that we don't experience pain, that our feelings can't be hurt. There is a historical perspective for this idea that black women are able to endure more pain and suffering. Part of that is that people need us to be that way—they need for us to not feel as much pain, so that they can make use of us. For example, black women were experimented on gynecologically. That's how gynecology came about. The father of gynecology, [Marion Sims,] experimented on one particular slave more than 30 times without anesthesia, the slave Anarcha, and he justified it by saying that black enslaved women don't experience the same kind of pain as white women.

We also see examples of it with black women who have been domestics: They can work 16 or 18 hours a day for other people, they can leave their children behind, they're used to it, this is what they do. And this idea of the strong black women, we can take anything that comes at us, we can still do it with a smile on our faces.

We have not been given the opportunity to express the pain that we feel. What happens when we're walking down the street is that people will harass us and see us as being both women and also black, and they understand that nobody gives a shit about us. The police won't help us. A lot of our men won't stick up for us, unfortunately. People know this. We are the women who they can take these things out on. They can sexually harass us, they can rape us, and who's going to believe the word of a black woman? I've had conversations with white women who have said, "I've had guys say, 'Hey sexy' to me, and that's as far as it's gone. But I've seen black women get harassed, and it's worse. It's been, 'Hey bitch', and grabbing, and I just don't understand why black women get it worse than we do." It's because they know that nobody is going to stick up for black women.
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More at the link. Reeeeeally want to make a topic about it but I feel like I've been overdoing it.
 
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Vince McMahon said:
I would make a topic for this, but I feel like I make too many topics. Worth reading, about street harassment:

http://www.theatlantic.com/politics...-youre-supposed-to-appear-that-you-do/375175/



More at the link. Reeeeeally want to make a topic about it but I feel like I've been overdoing it.
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"Why does it have to be a race thing?"
"Men get harassment too."
"That's just how it is. They should suck it up."
"Maybe they shouldn't dress how they do if they don't want attention."
"If she's smiling she must like it."
"How is just approaching someone harassment?"

There. Now you don't need to make a thread.
 
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RP912 said:
Sony was taking L's like a fucking champ during this time. PSP was the goat handheld but mannnn them ads for it were terrible.

The Marcus campaign though?
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I saw a heavily graffiti'd truck in my neighborhood a couple of months ago with some of this this partially obscured by new graffiti:

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Never thought about it much at the time, but this was some brainless pandering to minorities in city neighborhoods.
 
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You guys inspired me to make a PSP ad thread in gaming-side. I guess I'm not done.

Rewatching that alliwantforxmasisapsp video made me feel all irritable.
 
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