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[FeralEcho]

Watched the first 3 episodes and i'm out. Most of the scenes are skippable. The new characters are all uninteresting and unlikable. Why the hell would i care about Frencie's new gay thing with the black (of course) dude? Or Hewie's family drama? Also, being smart is a superpower now? That smug black woman (of course) didn't look that smart to me, she looks like how a stupid person thinks smart people are (complete with a mountain of books in her apartment because smart people must read a lot am i right?). Also, the actress who plays Starlight can barely act now with whatever she did to her face and all her scenes are distracting (though, that was also an issue in season 3).

I just hope Homalander snaps and kills everyone.

Yep at this point I'm just here to see Homelander snap and enslave the whole world and hopefully seeing Soldier Boy back...The only 2 worthwhile things left in this show.

The rest of the characters might as well be dead already as they've become either way too boring or a literal joke.

 

[March Climber]

Watched the first 3 episodes and i'm out.

I just hope Homalander snaps and kills everyone.

Lol so are you out or are you in?

 

[NotMyProblemAnymoreCunt]

Yep at this point I'm just here to see Homelander snap and enslave the whole world and hopefully seeing Soldier Boy back...The only 2 worthwhile things left in this show.

The rest of the characters might as well be dead already as they've become either way too boring or a literal joke.

Same I just watch the show for Homelander

 

[Vyse]

Damn, that a plot for a feminst Logans Run if I've ever heard one

I understood that reference.

 

[bitbydeath]

Colin isn't new. He's the guy who OD'd and the reason Frenchie wasn't there to protect Mallory's grandkids. They show that in, I think, season 2(?)...

Yes, super intelligence is a superpower. In comics and manga.

What's with the "(of course)"?

And how is a smart person supposed to look? Skinny and unattractive or fat and ugly? I'm not understanding what you mean? And... Smart people DO read a lot. It's how they satiate their curiosity. What, you expected her to be on social media constantly? And smugness is a trait of many hyper intelligent people so that's on brand.

I have no good thing to say about Annie so I'll leave that there. *cough*

He has a point about the books, if her superpower is being smart then she wouldn’t need to read, unless her superpower is just being able to read fast which in turn makes her smart.

 

[bitbydeath]

I don’t like how they’re changing the show.
The seven used to be ruthless, that was the point of creating The Boys.

It wasn’t about Homelander, he was also being manipulated by Voight. They’re trying to make it so only Homelander is bad and bringing in stupid US politics which wasn’t the initial concept.

 

[March Climber]

He has a point about the books, if her superpower is being smart then she wouldn’t need to read

Wouldn't this be a different superpower entirely?

What you're describing would be the power to be omniscient, which would make her one of the most powerful supes alive as that would be a god-level power.

 

[bitbydeath]

Wouldn't this be a different superpower entirely?

What you're describing would be the power to be omniscient, which would make her one of the most powerful supes alive as that would be a god-level power.

I figured that’s why she was brought in, and Homelander is giving her free reign?

Is her power just fast book reading then?

 

[DeafTourette]

Wouldn't this be a different superpower entirely?

What you're describing would be the power to be omniscient, which would make her one of the most powerful supes alive as that would be a god-level power.

Exactly! Smart people STILL need to learn things! Even Reed Richards needs to learn! Remember how it was Blue Marvel who taught Reed how to defeat Anti-Man? Reed couldn't see a way to defeat him but Blue Marvel, who has fought Anti-Man multiple times in the 60s knew better than the smartest man in the world who was only going off what he knew up to that point UNTIL Blue Marvel showed him a new way.

 

[bitbydeath]

Exactly! Smart people STILL need to learn things! Even Reed Richards needs to learn! Remember how it was Blue Marvel who taught Reed how to defeat Anti-Man? Reed couldn't see a way to defeat him but Blue Marvel, who has fought Anti-Man multiple times in the 60s knew better than the smartest man in the world who was only going off what he knew up to that point UNTIL Blue Marvel showed him a new way.

I don’t know, the last episode it hinted that she lobotomised herself to become dumber for a while, if her power was reading she wouldn’t need to do that.

 

[NotMyProblemAnymoreCunt]

He has a point about the books, if her superpower is being smart then she wouldn’t need to read, unless her superpower is just being able to read fast which in turn makes her smart.

Agreed

I was rolling my eyes whenever she was able to get one over Homelander. Especially since with Homelander, he would just kill her on the spot

I don’t like how they’re changing the show.
The seven used to be ruthless, that was the point of creating The Boys.

It wasn’t about Homelander, he was also being manipulated by Voight. They’re trying to make it so only Homelander is bad which wasn’t the initial concept.

Yeah all Seven being all bad was a much more interesting concept than just being Homelander. Now it just seems like it's Homelander. I know there's Firecracker and Sister Sage but it doesn't make a big difference

What I find interesting and funny is that the first season they didn't take a side and poked lot of fun at both sides of the political spectrum. Now? They are just poking alot of fun at the right and none or hardly any at the left.

Also recent comments from the showrunner saying if you don't like the politics don't watch is extra suspicious.

 

[March Climber]

I figured that’s why she was brought in, and Homelander is giving her free reign?

Is her power just fast book reading then?

I don’t know, the last episode it hinted that she lobotomised herself to become dumber for a while, if her power was reading she wouldn’t need to do that.

If this were the case, Homelander showing up would not have surprised her, but it did because that was the first thing she says when they first meet.



She said 'I am almost never surprised' pointing out that she simply plans ahead for all possible scenarios but cannot account for RNG/randomness. If that were the case she wouldn't be living in a dump as with a power like that one would immediately play lottery or go to a casino.

If it helps to make a comparison here, The Thinker from The Flash might be someone comparable to who Sister Sage is. Someone who has the capabilities to plan 10-20 steps ahead at almost all times but can't account for the random factor. All they can do is attempt to adjust to that randomness.

I consider Butcher to be the random element of chaos in this case.

 

[analog_future]

The show's always had a very obvious political slant & commentary on our current political landscape. Shocking that some aren't picking up on it until now.


With that said I'm a bit disappointed with Season 4 so far as well. The writing just isn't as sharp and the characters are being written to compliment the plot instead of the other way around.


So far, the first season of Gen V was better than this. Still curious to see where this goes though.

 

[bitbydeath]

The show's always had a very obvious political slant & commentary on our current political landscape. Shocking that some aren't picking up on it until now.


With that said I'm a bit disappointed with Season 4 so far as well. The writing just isn't as sharp and the characters are being written to compliment the plot instead of the other way around.


So far, the first season of Gen V was better than this. Still curious to see where this goes though.

I don’t recall much politics in the first season?
Are you able to provide some examples. (It has been a while since I watched it)

 

[DeafTourette]

I'm so dumb...

Colin isn't the OD guy ... He's the family member of a whole family who died because of Frenchie.

 

[Werewolf Jones]

I don’t recall much politics in the first season?
Are you able to provide some examples. (It has been a while since I watched it)

For Eric Kripke, ‘The Boys’ Was Always About Trumpism

As the showrunner grows his darkly comic satire into a franchise — and spoofs a certain trial and presidential election in the new season — he says he’s fine losing the viewers who just figured out his social agenda: “Go watch something else.”

www.hollywoodreporter.com

 

[March Climber]

Also bitbydeath , I'm fully expecting a fantastic reveal episode for Sister Sage where we go back and see more context about the steps she made to either secretly become more evil than Homelander as this season's villain, or secretly be an actual undercover dark hero who has to put herself through a heavy dosage of villainy in order to break down Vaught/Homelander from the inside, to which we will see the payoff happen next season as she gets killed at the end of this season, but she already molded events to where Homelander still loses in the end even if this happens.

 

[bitbydeath]

For Eric Kripke, ‘The Boys’ Was Always About Trumpism

As the showrunner grows his darkly comic satire into a franchise — and spoofs a certain trial and presidential election in the new season — he says he’s fine losing the viewers who just figured out his social agenda: “Go watch something else.”

www.hollywoodreporter.com

Season 2 definitely went into politics with the nazi woman. Don’t recall much from season 1, even the way they treated Starlight was meant to show how all of The Seven were assholes.

 

[bitbydeath]

Also bitbydeath , I'm fully expecting a fantastic reveal episode for Sister Sage where we go back and see more context about the steps she made to either secretly become more evil than Homelander as this season's villain, or secretly be an actual undercover dark hero who has to put herself through a heavy dosage of villainy in order to break down Vaught/Homelander from the inside, to which we will see the payoff happen next season as she gets killed at the end of this season, but she already molded events to where Homelander still loses in the end even if this happens.

I did wonder if she was going to tear them down from the inside.

 

[bitbydeath]

If this were the case, Homelander showing up would not have surprised her, but it did because that was the first thing she says when they first meet.



She said 'I am almost never surprised' pointing out that she simply plans ahead for all possible scenarios but cannot account for RNG/randomness. If that were the case she wouldn't be living in a dump as with a power like that one would immediately play lottery or go to a casino.

If it helps to make a comparison here, The Thinker from The Flash might be someone comparable to who Sister Sage is. Someone who has the capabilities to plan 10-20 steps ahead at almost all times but can't account for the random factor. All they can do is attempt to adjust to that randomness.

I consider Butcher to be the random element of chaos in this case.

This makes sense, good point.

 

[Werewolf Jones]

Season 2 definitely went into politics with the nazi woman. Don’t recall much from season 1, even the way they treated Starlight was meant to show how all of The Seven were assholes.

S1 was a great first season, anything after has been not as good. I protested since I thought he was gonna run it into the ground with never ending seasons of "Orange Man Bad" but since he really is ending it with 5 I'll tough it out. Hopefully the wheel of destiny begins to turn, not just for Homelander.

 

[March Climber]

I did wonder if she was going to tear them down from the inside.

Right now it's still a 50/50.

If you've ever watched popular anime, my prediction is that she is Gin from Bleach, except she will be written way better than he was when her defining moment comes.

Or... she is Light Yagami from Death Note

Or Lelouch.

Regardless I liked all 3 characters so there's a lot of potential here.

 

[NotMyProblemAnymoreCunt]

Right now it's still a 50/50.

If you've ever watched popular anime, my prediction is that she is Gin from Bleach, except she will be written way better than he was when her defining moment comes.

Or... she is Light Yagami from Death Note

Or Lelouch.

Regardless I liked all 3 characters so there's a lot of potential here.

Gin was one of the better written character in Bleach

I'm glad this is ending at Season 5, so there's no way the show will overstay it's welcome with the general audiences

But there is Gen V, I wonder if they are gonna milk that

 

[DeafTourette]

Gin was one of the better written character in Bleach

I'm glad this is ending at Season 5, so there's no way the show will overstay it's welcome with the general audiences

But there is Gen V, I wonder if they are gonna milk that

I think next year is Gen V season 2 and then the final season of The Boys with a coming together of both casts. We already see some of that paying off with the Godolkin kids from Gen V who think they're better than humans and should rule being in this season of The Boys.

 

[March Climber]

Gin was one of the better written character in Bleach

You can't imagine how pleased I was to see his big moment, only to be dumbfounded that the author ripped that moment away and still decided that the main character had to hog the spotlight right afterwards. I (and I'm sure many others) would have felt fine if things had ended with Gin doing what Gin did. The show itself would have had stronger messaging if so.

 

[NotMyProblemAnymoreCunt]

I think next year is Gen V season 2 and then the final season of The Boys with a coming together of both casts. We already see some of that paying off with the Godolkin kids from Gen V who think they're better than humans and should rule being in this season of The Boys.

I think after The Boys Season 5 is fully aired and done, I'm dropping Gen V. I thought the first season ok but just found the cast boring. I'm having the same issue that I'm having with Marvel and DC. Just plain old Superhero Fatigue

You can't imagine how pleased I was to see his big moment, only to be dumbfounded that the author ripped that moment away and still decided that the main character had to hog the spotlight right afterwards. I (and I'm sure many others) would have felt fine if things had ended with Gin doing what Gin did. The show itself would have had stronger messaging if so.

Yeah true, his big moment ended up being nothing in the end. Just further solidify how powerful the villain of that main story arc was in the end. I'm not a big fan of Bleach, I'm more of a fan of One Piece and Naruto (I do admit it has its flaws). But when it comes to villains in Bleach, there are three in general that are fantastic.

 

[DeafTourette]

I think after The Boys Season 5 is fully aired and done, I'm dropping Gen V. I thought the first season ok but just found the cast boring. I'm having the same issue that I'm having with Marvel and DC. Just plain old Superhero Fatigue



Yeah true, his big moment ended up being nothing in the end. Just further solidify how powerful the villain of that main story arc was in the end. I'm not a big fan of Bleach, I'm more of a fan of One Piece and Naruto (I do admit it has its flaws). But when it comes to villains in Bleach, there are three in general that are fantastic.

I don't think there's going to be a 3rd season of Gen V. Just the second season and then merging with The Boys.

 

[NotMyProblemAnymoreCunt]

I don't think there's going to be a 3rd season of Gen V. Just the second season and then merging with The Boys.

I will bet that Amazon Studios is gonna to milk the hell out of this brand until it's all milked out. I expect there to be lot more spinoffs after The Boys finishes up it's run with the fifth season

 

[SidViscous]

Homelander is just that gif of the truck about to crash than never crashes.

 

[AJUMP23]

I think starlight had bucal fat removal. I think that is why she looks different.

 

[analog_future]

I don’t recall much politics in the first season?
Are you able to provide some examples. (It has been a while since I watched it)

I mean it’s all over.

Off the top of my head, what Starlight went through was a clear commentary on the Me Too movement, Vought as a concept was a direct parallel to what we’re seeing with the modern military industrial complex and the manipulation of public perception by major corporations, they tackle Christian Nationalism/megachurches head on, they tackle corporations jumping on various “woke” bandwagons despite not actually giving a flying fuck, they show the corruption of American media/journalism and direct ties to slimy corporations, etc.. etc..

 

[YCoCg]

I will bet that Amazon Studios is gonna to milk the hell out of this brand until it's all milked out. I expect there to be lot more spinoffs after The Boys finishes up it's run with the fifth season

They can focus on finishing Invincible instead!

 

[TGO]

I think starlight had bucal fat removal. I think that is why she looks different.

Yeah she looked better with it, now she just looks old

And what is with girls and their fucking eyebrows these days

I mean it’s all over.

Off the top of my head, what Starlight went through was a clear commentary on the Me Too movement, Vought as a concept was a direct parallel to what we’re seeing with the modern military industrial complex and the manipulation of public perception by major corporations, they tackle Christian Nationalism/megachurches head on, they tackle corporations jumping on various “woke” bandwagons despite not actually giving a flying fuck, they show the corruption of American media/journalism and direct ties to slimy corporations, etc.. etc..

Yeah it's been pretty much a poke at everything which I can get behind.
At first I switched off because I instantly thought....woke shit and thought that's what the whole series was gonna be like
But I returned to it lati and the more I watched I could see they was tackling both sides of dumbness and I could agree with it and that's why it was worth watching
But S04E01 is kinda heavy one sided.
I'm gonna continue watching because it doesn't actually bother me other than wasting my time and if I feel it's wasting my time I'll switch off.

 

[March Climber]

I will bet that Amazon Studios is gonna to milk the hell out of this brand until it's all milked out. I expect there to be lot more spinoffs after The Boys finishes up it's run with the fifth season

It depends on if Eric Kripke and crew go for the big red button ending in season 5:

Spoiler

Virus from Gen V is made ultra-lethal, is unleashed, and kills every supe on the planet regardless of them being good or bad people.

 

[nkarafo]

I mean it’s all over.

Off the top of my head, what Starlight went through was a clear commentary on the Me Too movement

What Starlight went through was taken from the comic book, which predates the me too movement.

 

[Shubh_C63]

I am actually ok on it so far. I did skipped the part where I had no interest whatsoever in following.

Hate to have become that guy who skips portions of episode if its just about two characters making googly eyes at each other. Show me the fucking plot.

 

[bitbydeath]

I mean it’s all over.

Off the top of my head, what Starlight went through was a clear commentary on the Me Too movement, Vought as a concept was a direct parallel to what we’re seeing with the modern military industrial complex and the manipulation of public perception by major corporations, they tackle Christian Nationalism/megachurches head on, they tackle corporations jumping on various “woke” bandwagons despite not actually giving a flying fuck, they show the corruption of American media/journalism and direct ties to slimy corporations, etc.. etc..

A lot of what your pointing out has to do with the actual story, doesn’t mean it is anything political, more what if’s on certain situations, such as Vought controlling the world through Supes, and the Supes all being dicks and going after everyone including Starlight.

There wouldn’t be a show without those aspects.

 

[ÆMNE22A!C]

Gen V is very underrated imo. Was better than S3 of The Boys imo. I think this season of The Boys is off to stronger start than the last tbh.

Almost done with episode 1. I like it. Let's see how it goes from here. Ep 2 the pick a color scene. Brillant.

 

[DKehoe]

A lot of what your pointing out has to do with the actual story, doesn’t mean it is anything political, more what if’s on certain situations, such as Vought controlling the world through Supes, and the Supes all being dicks and going after everyone including Starlight.

There wouldn’t be a show without those aspects.

 

[NotMyProblemAnymoreCunt]

One of my favorite PFP I seen on this site

 

[Fbh]

The show's always had a very obvious political slant & commentary on our current political landscape. Shocking that some aren't picking up on it until now.
With that said I'm a bit disappointed with Season 4 so far as well. The writing just isn't as sharp and the characters are being written to compliment the plot instead of the other way around.
So far, the first season of Gen V was better than this. Still curious to see where this goes though.

The shows has always had political commentary, and despite people saying it was firing shots at both sides it has always been pretty heavily inclined towards one side.
But there used to be more nuance and better writing, specially in the first season.

If I had to describe the first season it was basically: "What if Superheroes acted and were treated like regular movie/TV celebrities? What if they were managed by a profit focused megacorporation and basically just treated as entertainment product,? And the Justice League was full of murderous assholes led by an evil egomaniac version of Superman?"

Meanwhile Season 4 so far basically just comes across as "What if Trump had superpowers?"

 

[analog_future]

The shows has always had political commentary, and despite people saying it was firing shots at both sides it has always been pretty heavily inclined towards one side.
But there used to be more nuance and better writing, specially in the first season.

If I had to describe the first season it was basically: "What if Superheroes acted and were treated like regular movie/TV celebrities? What if they were managed by a profit focused megacorporation and basically just treated as entertainment product,? And the Justice League was full of murderous assholes led by an evil egomaniac version of Superman?"

Meanwhile Season 4 so far basically just comes across as "What if Trump had superpowers?"

Yes I agree, the show has lost any semblance of subtlety and I don't think the 4th season has been particularly strong at all so far.


But yeah, anyone saying the "politics" in the show are something new are simply wrong.

 

[Denton]

This show used to be 10/10 masterpiece, but S3 was weaker with its limp status quo enforcing ending, and S4 is flat out mediocre. So much wasted time with irrelevant soap opera bullshit and much more heavy handed writing.

 

[xrnzaaas]

After 3 episodes I'm struggling to find the reasons to keep watching this show. Homelander's arc is just tiring, most of the other stuff is boring. Some dark humor and blood&guts here in there is not enough.

 

[BouncyFrag]

The shows vulgarity has always been tempered with the shows quality creating an odd balance, but it worked. Now it’s just vulgar.

 

[ÆMNE22A!C]

GENV

What a bunch a fucking cunts

 

[Dr. Claus]

The shows vulgarity has always been tempered with the shows quality creating an odd balance, but it worked. Now it’s just vulgar.

You can really tell what kind of people the writers are. Mentally ill perverts.

 

[Big Baller]

Yeah, Im not gonna bother watching. S3 was already mid

 

[BadBurger]

I finally got a chance to watch s4 e1.

What a great season opener. I think the writers have finally struck a near perfect balance between the various over the top elements of the show while moving along multiple story beats at a good pace. Some of the brief comedic bits really got me

Spoiler: Some minor spoilers from s4 ep1

• Oh no, her little baby arm ain't long enough
• "Have you ever heard of War Games? What am I saying, look at you, of course you've heard of fucking War Games" (sic)
• The pharmaceutical commercial with people dancing in joy while the ad text mentions sterilization - "Are you ready to stop reusing your catheter and start living your life?". Robocop levels of fake ads with this show. I like how nearly every social media account, company, and website they drop on the show has a real life counterpart that their marketing team created. "Homelander" revealed a few in his recent Reddit AMA
• It is amazing how accurate their podcasting / YouTuber characters are

And they're still going just as hard in the paint with the satirical social commentary that Garth Ennis was doing with the comic in the 2000's. Different times and new people and events to poke fun at, but the same spirit. If not as crass.

Starr remains awesome as Homelander. Still calmly terrifying after three seasons. Two dimensional on the surface, and a different kinds of two dimensional in private.

Spoiler: New character spoiler

I see they finally got themselves an Ozymandias archetype character. Frankly I am surprised it took them this long.

I don't know how they're going to squeeze a fifth season out of this vehicle, but I am definitely here for the ride now.

s4 e1: 4/5

 

[Zathalus]

I'm quite surprised people managed to watch the first three seasons of The Boys and not see the obvious political commentary. It wasn't exactly subtle. The first episode of season 4 does ramp it up a little though.