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The Championships 2012 at [WIMBLEDON]

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lucius

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Looking at the draw Murray still would likely have to beat Cilic, Del Potro and Tsonga just to get to finals, I would not put money on that.
 

szaromir

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Monday OOP: CC - Federer-Malisse, Azarenka-Ivanovic, Novak-Troicki.
No. 1 - Sharapova-Lisicki, Murray-Cilic, Ferrer-DelPo
No. 2 - Serena-Shvedova, Radwanska-Giorgi, Tsonga-Fish.
No. 3 - Schiavone-Kvitova, Clijsters-Kerber, Gasquet-Mayer

Packed as always on 2nd Wimbledon monday. Why on earth Vika-Ana one sided mess is on CC is beyond me, though. Would prefer all the other alternatives, also Maria shunned by LTA for CC this year, hopefully gets her motivation focused.

You answered your own question. They want 15 games and be done with it, sort of like Radwanska-Watson yesterday. Plus Azarenka is yet to appear on CC this year, whereas other top seeds already had a match there.
 

Superimposer

This is getting weirder all the time
Got to see the Murray game in Centre tonight. My first time there and only my second time at Wimbledon as well. It just feels awesome being there, everyone should go if they get the chance.
 

MIMIC

Banned

From the article:

Now things figure to get a tad tougher. In the fourth round Monday, she'll face Serena Williams, whose 13 Grand Slam titles include four at the All England Club.

"Hopefully I'll be able to win a point in the set," Williams said, somehow keeping a straight face. "That will be my first goal, and then I'll go from there."

Bwahahahahaha.

Also....

According to the International Tennis Federation, only one other perfect set ever has been played since the Open era began in 1968: Bill Scanlon of the U.S. won all 24 points in the second set of a victory over Marcos Hocevar of Brazil at Delray Beach, Fla., in 1983.

Oddly enough, only once before had a woman won 23 consecutive points, the ITF said: Shvedova, of all people. She took a 5-0, 40-love lead in a match against Amy Frazier of the U.S. at Memphis in 2006 -- only to end up losing 1-6, 6-0, 6-0.

HOW IN THE FUCK IS THAT POSSIBLE?

Win 23 points in a row, then lose 12 games in a row. My God.

How is Cilic? Will he give Murray as tough of a time as he got tonight?

Short answer: No
Long answer: See short answer
 

Speevy

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Honestly I feel like Del Potro, when healthy, is on a different level than Ferrer.

Yeah but based on the French Open I don't think he's entirely healthy.

Ferrer on the other hand is a battle-tested warrior. He'll fight anyone to the death.
 
lol, there it is

Also, the Querrey-Cilic match is now officially the 5th-longest match in Wimbledon history
There's what? I wasn't paying too close attention to the game and I missed what happened. For some reason I thought it was A - 40 and then Murray struck the ball out, or did something else happen? Again I wasn't paying full attention, maybe I misremembered the score.

Edit: This was when the ball dropped out of his pocket.
Got to see the Murray game in Centre tonight. My first time there and only my second time at Wimbledon as well. It just feels awesome being there, everyone should go if they get the chance.
How much are tickets for fairly good seats at these early games?
 

Jay Sosa

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How is Cilic? Will he give Murray as tough of a time as he got tonight?

If he plays his best tennis, it can get interesting. Plus Murray's Murray.

Honestly I feel like Del Potro, when healthy, is on a different level than Ferrer.

Especially on grass when his serve will be even tougher to return.
 

AceOcelot

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HOW IN THE FUCK IS THAT POSSIBLE?

Win 23 points in a row, then lose 12 games in a row. My God.

WTA...
I once saw a match between Wozniacki and some other lady I forget, but they went a whole set and a half without holding a service game. Broken every time.
 

Speevy

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I don't know much about actually playing tennis.

However, my guess as to why women get broken so much is that their serves are so slow, but the returner can still crack the ball pretty hard.

So you get these serves which have low MPH, and the returner just blasts it back, gaining the advantage.
 
I don't know much about actually playing tennis.

However, my guess as to why women get broken so much is that their serves are so slow, but the returner can still crack the ball pretty hard.

So you get these serves which have low MPH, and the returner just blasts it back, gaining the advantage.

No doubt.
 

Peru

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At her best Venus has had a faster first serve average speed than Federer. But yes, generally slower speed leads to a better position for the returners.


Oh ffs. Yes it was a spectacular event. But Errani is a clay-court specialist who probably had no ambitions or belief in going far here. It's not indicative of anything, it was a freak occurence, first time it's ever happened in the Open era. Fact of the matter is more of the favorites are left on the women's side than the men. Errani wasn't one of them. Remember Kuerten? Gastón Gaudio? RG used to be the experimental slam not so long ago.
 
At her best Venus has had a faster first serve average speed than Federer. But yes, generally slower speed leads to a better position for the returners.



Oh ffs. Yes it was a spectacular event. But Errani is a clay-court specialist who probably had no ambitions or belief in going far here. It's not indicative of anything, it was a freak occurence, first time it's ever happened in the Open era. Fact of the matter is more of the favorites are left on the women's side than the men. Errani wasn't one of them. Remember Kuerten? Gastón Gaudio? RG used to be the experimental slam.

But lower percentage and much much worse placement.
 

John Dunbar

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Oh ffs. Yes it was a spectacular event. But Errani is a clay-court specialist who probably had no ambitions or belief in going far here. It's not indicative of anything, it was a freak occurence, first time it's ever happened in the Open era. Fact of the matter is more of the favorites are left on the women's side than the men. Errani wasn't one of them. Remember Kuerten? Gastón Gaudio? RG used to be the experimental slam not so long ago.

Considering that for a very long time now there has been only two, maybe three, favourites in men's game, that's not really a point worth making. Of course one of them is going to lose every now and then.
 

Peru

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Considering that for a very long time now there has been only two, maybe three, favourites in men's game, that's not really a point worth making. Of course one of them is going to lose every now and then.

The lack of depth in the men's game is indeed another debate.
 

szaromir

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At her best Venus has had a faster first serve average speed than Federer. But yes, generally slower speed leads to a better position for the returners.
Federer is one of the best servers but not in terms of raw pace. The comparison makes no sense (and his fastest serve is faster than Venus'). Venus's second serve is laughable.
It's a disrespectful to Roger to even have Venus compared to him, let alone be mentioned in the same sentence.
It's disrespectful to say about Venus like that, but they are indeed completely different players. Roger's technique is one of the best of all time, Venus' technique is just crude and she achieved what she has (did?) thanks to being much more athletic than other female players.
 

Peru

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Federer is one of the best servers but not in terms of raw pace. The comparison makes no sense (and his fastest serve is faster than Venus'). Venus's second serve is laughable.

Dude, it was a bit of trivia directed towards a dude who thought all women served much slower than all men, nothing else.
 

HeroMK

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Looks like mother nature won't agree with Wimbledon next week. Expect tons of delays.
 

Peru

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Couple of years ago they were severely behind schedule going into 2nd week. I remember it because they refused to play on middle sunday still. We'll see if they agree to starting matches earlier.
 
Heh that's funny cos today was a lovely day in London. Gonna be a lot of disruption this week, forecast looks bad.

Court #1 is the place to be tmrw. Excited!
 

Peru

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They could move a match there as an emergency if the court is free towards the end of the day, though. Could. They've done it.

Had to watch Paszek and Woz after the fact to get the whole match because I didn't anticipate its entertainment value. Nice highlights of many great points http://youtu.be/WNohBuhL21Q
 

szaromir

Banned
They could move a match there as an emergency if the court is free towards the end of the day, though. Could. They've done it.

Had to watch Paszek and Woz after the fact to get the whole match because I didn't anticipate its entertainment value. Nice highlights of many great points http://youtu.be/WNohBuhL21Q

I made some nice $$$ on that one, I often wonder how bookmakers come up with those odds. (and yes while Paszek almost lost, she was very impressive in Eastbourne and had to be regarded as the favorite)
 

szaromir

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The play kicks off at noon local time. Hopefully they'll be able to finish at least first matches on respective courts before it starts raining.
 
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