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[The_Hitcher89]

Dude has the wrong attitude. Half of winning at stuff is believing that you are the biggest baddest guy in the sport and that you have the ability to beat anyone.

If he thinks that realism is better for him than self-delusion and over-optimism, so be it

 

[zomgbbqftw]

If he thinks that realism is better for him than self-delusion and over-optimism, so be it

But he hasn't got a case of realism, his is one of pessimism. On a good day Tsonga can beat anyone on a fast court, including Fedgod, Djoker and Rafa. Tsonga has so much raw talent for the game and when he executes it well he is unplayable, for him to say that he hasn't got as much talent as Andy Murray is outright wrong and a case of defeatism.

If he cut out the unforced errors he could take his game to the next level and become world star like Rafa or Djoker, but if he doesn't believe it is possible, well he's already lost the battle. It's very disappointing, and he needs to start seeing a sports psychologist who will drill a winning attitude into him.

 

[zero_suit]

But he hasn't got a case of realism, his is one of pessimism. On a good day Tsonga can beat anyone on a fast court, including Fedgod, Djoker and Rafa. Tsonga has so much raw talent for the game and when he executes it well he is unplayable, for him to say that he hasn't got as much talent as Andy Murray is outright wrong and a case of defeatism.

If he cut out the unforced errors he could take his game to the next level and become world star like Rafa or Djoker, but if he doesn't believe it is possible, well he's already lost the battle. It's very disappointing, and he needs to start seeing a sports psychologist who will drill a winning attitude into him.

Technique wise, Andy Murray IS more talented.

 

[Diprosalic]

A reminder of Federer in douchey mode before the final: http://www.dropshotdispatch.com/2011/11/20/top-10-roger-federer-verbal-jabs-at-andy-murray/

eh, half of those aren't even that bad and some are taken out of context.

 

[Hootie]

just poppin' in LttP to say FEDGOD AM GOD. Wooo!!

Just one more wimbledon fed, that's all i wanna see.

Spoiler

and maybe gold in London

 

[Koshiro]

So glad Murray has gotten to a Wimbledon final. Such an achievement, and well deserved. Don't fancy his chances against Fedgod, but I'm desperate to see him pull it off. Come on Murray!!

 

[Diprosalic]

just poppin' in LttP to say FEDGOD AM GOD. Wooo!!

Just one more wimbledon fed, that's all i wanna see.

Spoiler

and maybe gold in London

i said it before but another wimby and singles gold and he has won everything and set pretty much every possible record. also extended his GS lead back to 6 which rafa would take another 6 years to get there at his current pace (highly unlikely that he can win another 6 RG)

 

[HiddenAway]

Heh, expect the roof to be closed for the whole weekend. Rain from 12pm on Saturday and not stopping until late Sunday

 

[Nemo]

Watching some HLs and the third set definitely was of amazing quality, after that Djokovic seemed to be lost at times tho

 

[zero_suit]

Watching some HLs and the third set definitely was of amazing quality, after that Djokovic seemed to be lost at times tho

Yeah, he was off.

 

[Xun]

A reminder of Federer in douchey mode before the final: http://www.dropshotdispatch.com/2011/11/20/top-10-roger-federer-verbal-jabs-at-andy-murray/

I've always thought the guy was a complete dick, and this just confirms it.

It would be glorious to see Murray beat him, even if it is unlikely.

 

[tycoonheart]

He is, he's turned into a whiny douche.

From complaining about day light after losing to Nadal at Wimbledon to calling Novak lucky... the shit he says these days, its fucking ridiculous.

 

[clemenx]

Lol "these days"? That always has been his personality.

 

[tycoonheart]

No, he was pretty graceful earlier in his career. Its when Nadal started giving him competition he became douchier.

 

[Nemo]

Even tho it's not a direct quote this one is hilariously blunt

4. “Good for him,” Federer said sarcastically after being told Murray was the betting favorite for the 2009 Australian Open. “I mean, it doesn’t help him a whole lot. He’s never won a Slam.”

 

[zero_suit]

He is, he's turned into a whiny douche.

From complaining about day light after losing to Nadal at Wimbledon to calling Novak lucky... the shit he says these days, its fucking ridiculous.

It was not a good look when he cried during Nadal's championship ceremony at AO '09.

 

[Rafa=FedKilla]

I've always thought the guy was a complete dick, and this just confirms it.

It would be glorious to see Murray beat him, even if it is unlikely.

Like those comments are so out of line. God we really do live in a generation full of wimps.

 

[MrSerrels]

It's easy to be gracious when you win everything. When Murray started taking games off him and Novak went on a tear that's when you saw the real Roger. He's an arrogant narcissistic twat. Look at the way Rafa and Novak present themselves and even Murray. Win or lose they're always respectful.

 

[Rafa=FedKilla]

It's easy to be gracious when you win everything. When Murray started taking games off him and Novak went on a tear that's when you saw the real Roger. He's an arrogant narcissistic twat. Look at the way Rafa and Novak present themselves and even Murray. Win or lose they're always respectful.

Da fuck? Rafa is the most hypocritical and cheating player in the game today. Talkin' about when things aren't going Fed's way, did you see what fucking happened when Mowgli was getting sodomized by Rosol? Brahs just can't appreciate greatness and beauty.

 

[clemenx]

Da fuck? Rafa is the most hypocritical and cheating player in the game today. Talkin' about when things aren't going Fed's way, did you see what fucking happened when Mowgli was getting sodomized by Rosol? Brahs just can't appreciate greatness and beauty.

Yep. Healthy Rafa is undefeated!

But meh, ATP is pretty boring in that regard, I don't understand how could anyone take offense at anything the top 4 say or do.
The shades thrown in WTA everyday are way more enjoyable.

 

[Vivalaraza]

I like Murray and some of those Federer lines aren't even that bad. Especially #1, if anything it's just the truth.

Anyway, for sure Federer isn't some kind of saint like he is made out to be but I really don't think he's that bad. Nadal is just as good/bad as him IMO.

Djokovic is the coolest and most respectful guy out of them all IMO. Rarely see him make snide comments in his pressers after defeats. IMO all the others do it. I guess people are more annoyed at Federer because he is made out to be perfect, but yeah, don't think he's a monumental twat by any means. He could say a lot worse, esp considering what he's won. People way too sensitive.

 

[Rafa=FedKilla]

I like Murray and some of those Federer lines aren't even that bad. Especially #1, if anything it's just the truth.

Anyway, for sure Federer isn't some kind of saint like he is made out to be but I really don't think he's that bad. Nadal is just as good/bad as him IMO.

Djokovic is the coolest and most respectful guy out of them all IMO. Rarely see him make snide comments in his pressers after defeats. IMO all the others do it. I guess people are more annoyed at Federer because he is made out to be perfect, but yeah, don't think he's a monumental twat by any means. He could say a lot worse, esp considering what he's won. People way too sensitive.

No doubt brah, I'm not going to judge a player like that since most/all do it. You can tell they are good people like Novak bringing 9/11 victims to his box at Us Open and the various REAL charities they do.

 

[Laughing Banana]

Da fuck? Rafa is the most hypocritical and cheating player in the game today. Talkin' about when things aren't going Fed's way, did you see what fucking happened when Mowgli was getting sodomized by Rosol? Brahs just can't appreciate greatness and beauty.

You know, there is a user in menstennisforums that has the same exact username as you, but he seemed to have considered Fed as this evil Satan and Nadal as the God of the Universe or something. Which makes my head spin when I see you saying stuff like this here.

Are you both not the same person?

Speaking of which, is the MIMIC here is different than the MIMIC on menstennisforums as well? Both of GAF's version of MIMIC and that other MIMIC share the same dislike towards Federer, but the other one of menstennisforums seems much more.... intense in its dislike I am inclined to call it beyond just "dislike" but more like "unhealthy hatred". Is the MIMIC here and MIMIC there a different person....?

Also, the British need to decide whether Murray is a Brit or a Scot and stick with it, whether he manages to win or not. This flip-flopping between Brit and Scot depending on his achievement is just hilariously sad.

 

[leng jai]

MIMIC is the same person.

 

[Rafa=FedKilla]

I'm a different person, I don't enjoy Spartan tennis but ballet tennis. MIMIC and I have had some run-ins on MTF.

 

[Babalu.]

Ah yes my main man fed. I fucking called it. I believed in you bro when others doubted.

and sunday murray sampras and all of britain/scotsland can suck it.

 

[Battersea Power Station]

Also, the British need to decide whether Murray is a Brit or a Scot and stick with it, whether he manages to win or not. This flip-flopping between Brit and Scot depending on his achievement is just hilariously sad.

They refer to him as both, and you drawing a correlation between when they use each term is most likely confirmation bias.

 

[Laughing Banana]

They refer to him as both, and you drawing a correlation between when they use each term is most likely confirmation bias.

Confirmation bias?

Hmm.

Seeing stuff such as that Andy Murray meter thingie is funny (in a sad way). Also I've oft seen myself places like BBC and Telegraph flip-flopping between Scot and Brit depending on their "mood", which is just weird.

 

[Hootie]

Seeing stuff such as that Andy Murray meter thingie is funny (in a sad way). Also I've oft seen myself places like BBC and Telegraph flip-flopping between Scot and Brit depending on their "mood", which is just weird.

Speaking of that, he's currently 97% british, the highest yet.

 

[Smellycat]

I didn't get a chance to post until now.

I am over the moon after Federer's win. But it is not over yet. I was dreading a potential final with Murray. I hate to say this, but I think Murray has a good chance at winning the match.

I think Federer deserves it more. He has played consistent and great tennis since the U.S open. This is his moment. It is great that Murray is finally in the Wimbledon final, but he will have plenty of other chances. He is still young.

Let's do this Federer. You know what you have to do. One more great match and you will accomplish so many of your goals at once. No pressure, haha

 

[qindarka]

You know, there is a user in menstennisforums that has the same exact username as you, but he seemed to have considered Fed as this evil Satan and Nadal as the God of the Universe or something. Which makes my head spin when I see you saying stuff like this here.

Are you both not the same person?

Speaking of which, is the MIMIC here is different than the MIMIC on menstennisforums as well? Both of GAF's version of MIMIC and that other MIMIC share the same dislike towards Federer, but the other one of menstennisforums seems much more.... intense in its dislike I am inclined to call it beyond just "dislike" but more like "unhealthy hatred". Is the MIMIC here and MIMIC there a different person....?

Also, the British need to decide whether Murray is a Brit or a Scot and stick with it, whether he manages to win or not. This flip-flopping between Brit and Scot depending on his achievement is just hilariously sad.

I lurk on MTF a lot and there surely is no way that the Rafa=FedKilla there is being serious. He goes too far overboard all the time.

 

[LegoArmo]

Murray is Scottish. No one will ever convince me otherwise.

 

[TrumanBurbank]

I have a feeling Andy is going to cry like a baby if he loses. As a result, I will too. Tough to see a grown man cry.

 

[LegoArmo]

I have a feeling Andy is going to cry like a baby if he loses. As a result, I will too. Tough to see a grown man cry.

I think it's more likely that he'll cry if he wins.

 

[leng jai]

I lurk on MTF a lot and there surely is no way that the Rafa=FedKilla there is being serious. He goes too far overboard all the time.

98% of MTF isn't serious....hopefully.

 

[TrumanBurbank]

I think it's more likely that he'll cry if he wins.

Think he'll cry either way. But it's more painful to watch if he loses.

 

[rando14]

Great tennis from Fed, kinda sucks that Tsonga didn't win.

 

[Laughing Banana]

I lurk on MTF a lot and there surely is no way that the Rafa=FedKilla there is being serious. He goes too far overboard all the time.

98% of MTF isn't serious....hopefully.

You never know... you never know....

There are lots of salty people there right now, as is any other popular tennis message boards. And salty people say lots of stupid things...

In any event, I know this is selfish but I do not give a damn about "the burden of an entire country" or whatever story Murray has to carry on his back during the final: hopefully Federer will emerge victorious in the end.

 

[clemenx]

Awesome pic.

 

[MIMIC]

You know, there is a user in menstennisforums that has the same exact username as you, but he seemed to have considered Fed as this evil Satan and Nadal as the God of the Universe or something. Which makes my head spin when I see you saying stuff like this here.

Are you both not the same person?

Speaking of which, is the MIMIC here is different than the MIMIC on menstennisforums as well? Both of GAF's version of MIMIC and that other MIMIC share the same dislike towards Federer, but the other one of menstennisforums seems much more.... intense in its dislike I am inclined to call it beyond just "dislike" but more like "unhealthy hatred". Is the MIMIC here and MIMIC there a different person....?

Also, the British need to decide whether Murray is a Brit or a Scot and stick with it, whether he manages to win or not. This flip-flopping between Brit and Scot depending on his achievement is just hilariously sad.

Unhealthy hatred? Wow, that's quite an exaggeration there.

And my dislike of Murray is MUCH stronger than my dislike of Fed, but I guess no one cares about Murray.

 

[rapid32.5]

Murray doesn't have the game to bother Fed even when he plays his best.
At best one set win over Fed, if Fed's serve performance decline drastically.
Fed will try to wrap it up as soon as possible before Murray wakes up.

 

[Laughing Banana]

Unhealthy hatred? Wow, that's quite an exaggeration there.

And my dislike of Murray is MUCH stronger than my dislike of Fed, but I guess no one cares about Murray.

Haha. Sorry mate, that's just honestly my impression of you from your posts over there.

 

[leng jai]

MIMIC is a Fed lover.

 

[MIMIC]

Haha. Sorry mate, that's just honestly my impression of you from your posts over there.

I make no bones about my dislike of Federer, but I still gives him the respect he deserves (he's the GOAT and blah blah). I....just don't like him.

 

[Speevy]

I say Federer in four.

If however Fed starts spraying errors everywhere, it could get interesting.

Serena will have another title by the time I wake up tomorrow.

 

[perfectchaos007]

If Serena fires > 20 aces in this match, she'll win. Less than 20 aces, Radwanska wins. That's my o/u

 

[Diprosalic]

I have a feeling Andy is going to cry like a baby if he loses. As a result, I will too. Tough to see a grown man cry.

that's a given, he's already done it after getting defeated by federer. and i don't blame him, i blame nobody. i actually like it, you see that they care about winning. and that's sometimes all i want.

not like the future WTA wimby champ who plays when they have some off time.

 

[Sage00]

Great article by Rafa on the final and Andy Murray.

Rafa Nadal
Published 1 minute ago

It is the late evening in Sardinia where I am having a small holiday and I have had a call saying that Andy Murray has reached the final of Wimbledon. I did not see the match, but I can only begin to imagine the emotions he must have been feeling.
For Andy this is an amazing achievement. It is the home tournament. To be in the final, to be playing against the best in history in Roger Federer, he has been fighting for this for a long time and now it has happened. I am very happy for him.

To be in so many Wimbledon semi-finals and not be in the final — I am sorry that it was me who beat him on the last couple of occasions — is disappointing for him, but I knew the chance would come again and that if it did come, he would take it.
For me, he has had a great career already, even without winning a final of a grand-slam, but this means so much more. This is the special one of the four major tournaments we have in our sport, especially for a player from Britain.

This is the best possible final for Wimbledon. They deserve it. I wish all the people there that it is a great occasion. I know what it is like to play Roger on the last day of a major championship. He is still here after years and years of competing and if he wins the tournament he will become the No 1 player in the world again. He deserves that, Andy deserves to win a grand-slam. It is going to be a special afternoon.
For me, 2008 against Roger is still an unforgettable memory. It is impossible to describe or to put into words how I felt that day but it was beautiful, I know that. It was my dream always to win Wimbledon and I am sure the same is true for Andy. All I know is that it will be a match that no one who sees it will forget. I don’t know if I will be watching or not, it depends on my schedule.

I am a little sad that it is not me who is playing. I had to cancel an exhibition I was due to play against Novak Djokovic in the Bernabéu stadium in Madrid next Sunday for my foundation because I am still having some problems with my knees.
I needed a couple of infiltrations after the French Open final and I was not at my best to play at Wimbledon. I am very sorry for that but I have to look after myself first.

I’ve had a good year so far, I believe. I won Monte Carlo for the eighth time, Barcelona for a seventh time, Rome for the sixth time and Roland Garros for a seventh time, so I cannot be too disappointed with that.
I want to find the best tennis levels of my career again and to do that I have to make sure that I rest properly. I am hoping, hoping that I will be all right to play in the Olympic Games.

 

[Speevy]

For Andy this is an amazing achievement.

But for me, it was Tuesday.

 

[John Dunbar]

Great article by Rafa on the final and Andy Murray.

lol, this just comes off as really funny:

All I know is that it will be a match that no one who sees it will forget. I don’t know if I will be watching or not, it depends on my schedule.

"It's going to be an unforgettable match. Meh, I'll watch it if there's nothing else on or whatever."