BertramCooper
Banned
So it's an important film, not a good one. Gotcha.
I wouldn't go that far.
It's got a few wonderful songs, and the dwarves are fantastic.
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The Disney Blu-ray Thread: How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love the Vault
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I wouldn't go that far.
It's got a few wonderful songs, and the dwarves are fantastic.
FormallyMegadrive
Member
I was in a local store and I saw Cinderella is 'available for a limited time only'. Is this bullshit because I swear it's been there for a good 6 months now. This is in Australia though, if that makes any difference.
PhoncipleBone
Banned
Technically, everything is available for a limited time only. For Disney, that means a couple of years.
FormallyMegadrive
Member
I was always under the impression each release was only available from a specific time until stock runs out.
I saw it recently in theaters in 3d. It's a beautiful movie, but it's not that interesting, and it's got a ton of problems with it that's never addressed, and that's not even including the Stockholm stuff.
Why did the wealthy Prince open the door? He's an important member of royalty, so his servants should have done that.
Why did the Enchantress curse him for not letting her stay? He's royalty. He had no reason to trust her.
He begs for forgiveness, but she curses him anyways, so she's spiteful.
He was 12. SHE CURSED A 12 YEAR OLD BOY FOR NOT LETTING A STRANGER IN HIS HOME.
Why was Chip not aged, but the Beast was? Was Cheap made as a teacup and ... then turned into a human boy?
Why did the Enchantress curse the servants? What did they do wrong?
Why did she specify that he had to find his true love and it had to be female? What if he was gay?
Seriously, fuck that movie. It's pretty, and the Gaston song is great, but it's full of so much bullshit from the original story that was never fixed.
Rhomega Beta
Member
Silly Dragonzord, there are no gay people in Disney movies. Not yet, anyway.
These are pretty much nitpicks. Does it really matter or that much or detract from the movie? Not that BATB is a perfect movie but I think these criticisms are unfair.
It absolutely does. The entire point of the movie is to learn to love the Beast because he's the same inside as everyone else. Well, why would I hate him initially when I realize he's been dealt a very poor hand for no particular reason? Like, hey, childhood being robbed from you makes you kind of cranky. Any social worker could tell you that.
TAJ
Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that.
I like it less every time I see it. I pretty much hate it now.
but I still bought it on Blu... twice
Aaron Strife
Banned
The stage musical resolves the thing with the prince being turned into a beast as a boy thing by not mentioning his age, only that he was cursed for ten years. It also implies that everyone's age was frozen, which would explain Chip. I don't usually forgive plotholes when they're dealt with in other media, but there you go.
Still love B&TB even if the enchantress is kind of a jerk.
Also, the original release of the movie said "If the Beast could love someone, and someone could love him in return, the spell would be broken." Disney changed it because parents complained (gasp) about the ambiguity of the language.
Still love B&TB even if the enchantress is kind of a jerk.
Also, the original release of the movie said "If the Beast could love someone, and someone could love him in return, the spell would be broken." Disney changed it because parents complained (gasp) about the ambiguity of the language.
I get my copy of Tigger Movie next week! =D
I love that GIF so much <3
Even if it's available for two years before disappearing, that's still "a limited time".
crackhead_bob
Member
What is it about Finding Nemo, Wall-E, Toy Story, Monsters Inc. that makes them probable classics? And what are the missing tangibles in Pochahontas, Hunchback, Hercules, etc that is keeping them from gaining the classic status the way that Mermaid through Lion King were able to achieve so early after their release? I remember watching Wall-E and getting that "it" feeling that I got from seeing American Beauty in the theaters for the first time. I never cared for Monsters Inc., but I'm not blind to its qualities either.
You're not alone. To me, Toy Story 1 and Incredibles are the only Pixar movies I'd consider classics.
I have it VHS and I remember loving it as a child. I just don't know if it still holds up.
All the Disney films hold up. The ones that don't weren't actually that well received in the first place.
Wall-E has always been over-rated. It's an absolutely beautiful first act but then it becomes Goofy Fat People Who Have The Typical Pixar Character Quirks In Space.
UP! followed this trend by compressing that beautiful first act into a beautiful ten minutes instead.
jstevenson
Sailor Stevenson
eh, I put Pocahantas in the classic / golden era. But at that point is on a decline. There is an intangible factor there that is hard to describe, but it may come down to just having a lot of heart. Nothing is really wrong with those movies, they just don't strike that perfect magical note. Herc / Hunchback / Poca don't ever quite make you go "damn I've never seen anything like this before" the way you felt when you saw Mermaid/Aladdin/Lion King. I think half of it is those movies never felt quite as epic either. Hercules maybe could've been the closest but was almost too goofy.
In terms of the pixar films:
Toy Story certainly did, and is as revolutionary in its own way as Snow White was.
Nemo has tons of heart and is probably in my top three Pixar flicks. The creatures and underwater animation is stunning. The whole thing is wonderfully cohesive with great performances, it's touching, it's gorgeous.
Wall-E did by being completely bold and making a movie without much dialog, especially early. It's risky, but it paid off.
The scene that pushed Monsters Inc. into the classic category from me, was the door chasing sequence at the end. it's this perfect illustration of 3D animation beginning to take over, and they do it there by taking one of animation's oldest tropes, the chase scene in the hallway with all the doors, and completely turning it on its head for a new generation. Utterly brilliant.
Christopher
Member
Mermaids overrated its in classic status due to its songs
I think Hercules belongs in the classics list tbh it was a Greek Aladdin and had charming characters story and music I think poncho trying to be uber serious killed some 90s Disney steam
Mulan is classic too IMO god know she's whored out in the princess line
I think Hercules belongs in the classics list tbh it was a Greek Aladdin and had charming characters story and music I think poncho trying to be uber serious killed some 90s Disney steam
Mulan is classic too IMO god know she's whored out in the princess line
BertramCooper
Banned
Christopher
Member
Gotta get em the first week they are released!
Snow White is $55, Sleeping Beauty is $40 on amazon(US). Don't know where you're from. Get them. There's one Sleeping Beauty left in stock according to what I just saw. You'll pay roughly twice as much for them if you had bought them w/o coupon on day one, but if it's digging at you that much it will be worth it.
Red_taiyaki
Member
Ugh....Disney totally needs to go and get Lilo & Stitch out on Blu-ray. I need my hi-def
hi mele no hilo" NAO!
hi mele no hilo" NAO!
jstevenson
Sailor Stevenson
Honestly, I think every Pixar film is pretty much a classic besides:
Cars / Cars 2 (though these are both fun, and as good as Dreamworks general films)
Bug's Life
Toy Story sequels (though these are near-classics too, esp. TS2)
I have yet to see Brave, I know I know, pull my Disney fan card. Was out of the country when it came out and summer was just ridiculous so I never got to it. Blu-ray is pre-ordered and it'll get a proper screening at home
BertramCooper
Banned
You can add it to the "not a classic" pile.
jstevenson
Sailor Stevenson
yeah, the buzz on it also probably was why i didn't end up seeing it.
still will own it though, as I am still a Disney whore and card-carrying passholder.
I gave up trying to convince people why Ratatouille was Pixar's greatest artistic achievement years ago. They just see superheroes or vintage toys and let their nostalgia get in the way.
BertramCooper
Banned
Early Mickey is a totally awesome little piece of shit. But then he morphed into a generic corporate mascot, while Donald Duck took over the role of resident asshole.
Rhomega Beta
Member
I did not like Ratatouille from the outset. The premise of a rat becoming a Parisian chef didn't interest me, and even after seeing the movie, my opinion didn't change. My least favorite Pixar movie.
Just like Bugs Bunny. And Daffy Duck used to be completely insane.
evilpigking
Member
I think I got most of the movies I wanted that are out so far (from main line skipped Fantasia and Pinocchio, also skipping aristocrats, will probably grab rescuers 1&2), on the fence for Pochahontas, Fox and the Hound, and LatT though. I don't remember them well enough to recall if worth grabbing (yes I'm completely ignoring the inclusion of Pochahontas 2)
WordAssassin
Member
Really glad they're gonna be taking him back to his roots in the coming months/years. Selfish dick Mickey is my favorite Mickey. I don't think he'll revert all the way but he'll certainly be better than he is now.
brianmcdoogle
Member
Can you guys tell me if I got a fake Fox and the Hound blu-ray? It came without a slip cover, without any inserts, the two dvd copies of the films sit on top of one another in the case, and the center of the blu-ray disc seems strange.
I can post more pics if needed. I bought it used on Amazon in "like new" condition.
edit: crap, the photos look huge. how do i resize them for you all so it doesn't take up so much space? ok. did that fix the photos?
I can post more pics if needed. I bought it used on Amazon in "like new" condition.
edit: crap, the photos look huge. how do i resize them for you all so it doesn't take up so much space? ok. did that fix the photos?
Can you guys tell me if I got a fake Fox and the Hound blu-ray? It came without a slip cover, without any inserts, the two dvd copies of the films sit on top of one another in the case, and the center of the blu-ray disc seems strange.
I can post more pics if needed. I bought it used on Amazon in "like new" condition.
crap, the photos look huge. how do i resize them for you all so it doesn't take up so much space?
Quote for size.
I can check when I get home, but I'm pretty sure the DVDs came stacked like that on mine, which I got direct from the Disney Blu-ray club. I remember thinking it was odd. That its missing the inserts and slipcover is not unusual for a used copy.
WordAssassin
Member
That's just how Disney is doing it because they're cheap. The DVD copies of both Rescuers movies are like that as well as the Pochohontas 1&2 DVDs. I'm sure Hunchback will follow suit.
brianmcdoogle
Member
Yikes, really? That is cheap. And, usually doesn't the inner circle of a DVD/Blu-ray usually have a silver-ish circle or something? Again, it just looks cheap so I don't know if this is a copy or not.
TAJ
Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that.
That's what the discs and case are supposed to look like.
Mine has a slip case but I bought it close to release. They start leaving them off after a few months. It's quite possible yours never had a slipcase, but they also could have sold it separately. There's a market for that.
And the inserts were just the Disney Movie Rewards code and an ad for Blu-ray 3D
Mine has a slip case but I bought it close to release. They start leaving them off after a few months. It's quite possible yours never had a slipcase, but they also could have sold it separately. There's a market for that.
And the inserts were just the Disney Movie Rewards code and an ad for Blu-ray 3D
Rafa=FedKilla
Banned
Turn of the century films ont get no respect brah.
WordAssassin
Member
I just checked mine, which I bought at Best Buy, and it's exactly like yours.