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The Disney Blu-ray Thread: How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love the Vault
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Stumpokapow
listen to the mad man
I never got into steelbooks because availability, especially for lesser-known stuff, is so hit or miss and the last thing I wanted was half my collection in steelbooks. The art for the TLM one looks really nice though 
I rewatched Little Mermaid the other day on blu-ray (yay! no shot order fuck up!), the first time I've rewatched the film in probably over a decade. I love the songs, the characters, etc, but goddamn I just can't get over how DUMB the actual ending is. Out of all the arguable asspulls which Disney does for their fairy tale endings, this has to rank among the worst of them. It really makes no sense!
Just in case someone out there hasn't watched this before (lol):
The extras were pretty great though, and it was really heartbreaking watching Howard Ashman in the old footage they had of him talking about the songs for the show. What a tragic loss for Disney. The guy was a genius. T_T
Just in case someone out there hasn't watched this before (lol):
So Ursula is a powerful Sea Witch whose magic rivals King Triton himself, and she has defeated him, taken the crown and the trident, and now she is a giant super final boss with the power to control the oceans. Okay, cool. How does she get defeated? Prince Eric somehow navigates a shipwreck (which she rose from the bottom of the sea with her powers!) and stabs her in the stomach with the pointy end. Wut? Lol.
The extras were pretty great though, and it was really heartbreaking watching Howard Ashman in the old footage they had of him talking about the songs for the show. What a tragic loss for Disney. The guy was a genius. T_T
thequickandthedead
Member
I wouldn't think about it too much if i were you.
The copy I got from Amazon in early December after people reported getting fixed versions from Amazon was one of the broken ones.
But that's what the recall program is for.
You have to watch it I think. That's the only way to know for sure.
Nah, it's based on the codes on the disc I'm pretty sure?
Watching it is the easiest way. It really stands out as a glaring error once you know what to look for. (Ariel is supposed to sing a line with visible emotion, then silently drift downwards while Flounder looks down. In the mixed up version, she sings a line off-camera while Flounder looks down for no reason, and then says nothing while she silently emotes for no reason.)
Disney will ask you to tell them the serial number on the disc, because that's how they recognize it.
21st century cowboy
Member
Amazon.co.uk has a half decent 2 for £10 deal on at the moment and I managed to grab some of the not so loved classic Disney films. Chicken Little, Meet the Robinson and Dinosaur. Plus I got Anastasia and Pete's Dragon.
The Wild was also available. The picture on Amazon shows is with a 46th classic tab on the spine but no lists I could see has it as part of the Walt Disney Classic collection. Does anyone know if it is part of the line or not?
The Wild was also available. The picture on Amazon shows is with a 46th classic tab on the spine but no lists I could see has it as part of the Walt Disney Classic collection. Does anyone know if it is part of the line or not?
Stumpokapow
listen to the mad man
In the WDAS numbering, the Wild does not count. It was not made by WDAS, just distributed by Disney. It was made by CORE who also did The Ant Bully and Valiant (which was also distributed by Disney).
In the European release numbering, Dinosaur (which was made by WDAS) is not included as a numbered entry, while The Wild is. There's no real logical reason behind this, other than that Dinosaur is a bit of a poop movie.
WDAS number:
39 Dinosaur
40 Emperor's New Groove
41 Atlantis
42 Lilo and Stitch
43 Treasure Planet
44 Brother Bear
45 Home on the Range
46 Chicken Little
47 Meet the Robinsons
European release numbering:
39 Emperor's New Groove
40 Atlantis
41 Lilo and Stitch
42 Treasure Planet
43 Brother Bear
44 Home on the Range
45 Chicken Little
46 The Wild
47 Meet the Robinsons
So the answer is that in your country, The Wild might be given a number and Dinosaur might not, but internally to Disney Dinosaur is included and The Wild is not. Everything before Dinosaur or including/after Meet the Robinsons is otherwise the same, so only the above films have their numbering differ.
WordAssassin
Member
I remember reading that the only reason they count Dinosaur as a "Disney Classic" (they made it one retroactively) was so they could plop Tangled into the 50th slot and make a big deal about Disney's triumphant return to fairy tales and all that shit. Because otherwise seriously fuck Dinosaur, it has no business being on that list.
SouthernDragon
Member
Stupid question.
I recently treated myself to TLM, Robin Hood, and The Sword in the Stone in order to round out my Disney collection. But they don't have sleeves! All of my movies have sleeves.
What can I do to get sleeves for them?
I recently treated myself to TLM, Robin Hood, and The Sword in the Stone in order to round out my Disney collection. But they don't have sleeves! All of my movies have sleeves.
What can I do to get sleeves for them?
Christopher
Member
You can all Disney direct if they have any more they'll charge you 3.50 for each. They run out quickly, if not you'll have to eBay em
21st century cowboy
Member
Wow thanks for the thourgh explanation. I guess i won't bother picking it. I'm not expecting much from the films I picked up but the collector in me wants to see all the numbers on my shelf.
I wish Disney would hurry up and bring Basel The Great Mouse Detective out over here. I loved that fit when I was younger.
Stumpokapow
listen to the mad man
Welcome to collecting Disney Blu-rays. Hahaha. Sleeve completionism is an expensive and anxiety-inducing part of the hobby
Edit: Sorry, to be a little more useful:
http://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread.php?t=235673
That's the best resource on the internet on getting slipcases.
Well neither does Chicken Little but you gotta roll with the ups and downs of being a WDAS fan.
thequickandthedead
Member
Are there any notoriously rare Disney VHS releases? (apart from Chicken Little).
WordAssassin
Member
Chicken Little might be terrible (I've never seen it and don't plan to) but it was always a "Disney Classics" line movie. Dinosaur wasn't added to the line until like 7-8 years after it came out.
Stumpokapow
listen to the mad man
I don't believe there are any specific animated films that are rare (maybe Chicken Little and Home on the Range, which I believe were the last two released on VHS). Some releases of films are rare. I know the original release run of VHSes pre-1985 are a little unusual. Not sure if they have much value, but they're hard to come by. Pretty much everything got 2-3 releases during the lifespan of the VHS format. And all the pre-VHS home releases that Disney experimented with on other long-since forgotten home video formats are tough to find.
Actually, one that I can think of is that Song of the South's PAL release is somewhat valued, and all the laserdisc releases, because it never got a US home release at all.
But if you're asking because you've got a truckload of old Disney VHS and want to sell them for a profit, I suspect you'll find it's not worth your time or effort for the miniscule amount of money you'd get
Edit: I actually remembered a question about this from the D23 Ask Dave column:
Aaron Strife
Banned
It was also a face-saving measure. Disney thought the technology in Dinosaur would be revolutionary and change the way movies are made etc. etc. The movie did well in the box office but it hardly lit the world on fire, so Disney just pretended it was an experimental canon entry while shutting down the studio that made it - though it only found itself as a numbered entry recently.
The Broken Ska Record
Member
I liked it, but it's certainly not the greatest.
Stumpokapow
listen to the mad man
Yeah this is the second or third warning for those. I actually thought they were vaulted until this month's DMC offer included an option to get Peter Pan. So I would expect vaulting soon. I have it marked in the vault in the OP's image for that reason.
Peter Pan / Return to Neverland are in the next vault round.
WordAssassin
Member
I won't lie, I've been tempted to watch it before. I mean I actually LIKE Home on the Rage (though I agree it's totally awful). There's just something about it that I hate though. I think it's everything about it's genesis, with Eisner killing traditionally animated movies at Disney to make what was essentially their version of a Dreamworks movie, really pissed me off and soured me on ever watching it.
Christopher
Member
I'm pretty sure Cinderella is going in the vault too
The Broken Ska Record
Member
I can totally understand that. Personally, I wasn't much of a fan of HotR.
firehawk12
Subete no aware
It's a completely different distributor/publisher (Sentai) and they have never done slipcovers as far as I know.
Christopher
Member
Ugh I can't post the new cover of sleeping beauty but its great!
Christopher
Member
Wasn't available on iTunes or amazon UV blah blah...gotta be first time on something!
Can someone post it here for all to see?
"Digital HD" is the new marketing term for digital downloads.
I really like it. We'll have to wait and see if this release has anything the previous didn't.
Sorry if it's been posted, but for UK members Emperor's New Groove, Lilo and Stitch and Oliver & Company are due out within the next few months.
Also Frozen has a date of March 31st if we're including new films as well.
Also Frozen has a date of March 31st if we're including new films as well.
Stumpokapow
listen to the mad man
Poor Great Mouse Detective (Basil of Baker Street) left out in the cold.
woahitsreeo
Member
So no 3d Blu-Ray included in the Frozen release for the US market? I hope they're not pulling another OZ fiasco on us. Hopefully they at the least release an ultimate collector edition later with the 3d disk included... If they do that I'm guessing in time for Holiday 2014. Anyone have further thoughts or news on this?
IntelliHeath
As in "Heathcliff"
Target have bunch of sales for Disney Blu Ray, like Sword in the Stone, Robin Hood and Oliver and the Company.
IntelliHeath
As in "Heathcliff"
About 8 dollars off each. Oliver is 14.99 dollars, and other two are like 17.99
I think Brave, Little Mermaid (2 and Prequel) and other few movies were on sale as well but I didn't pay attention to their prices tho.
Stumpokapow
listen to the mad man
To be fair, is it possible to have all blue slips so far if you're collecting all disney films and not just Diamond Editions? Mulan is only red, the Incredibles is only red-orange, Emperor's New Groove is only green, I think Bambi is only green, right?
Lee Chaolan
Member
What was the OZ fiasco? Didn't release the 3D Blu for months?
True, though it's not an issue as long as it's well done like Mulan's or Little Mermaid 3D or Peter Pan's gold edition.
It just looks better when the artwork isn't squished into an oval
DVD version is better too:
Stumpokapow
listen to the mad man
Yeah that cover looks way better. :/
Stumpokapow
listen to the mad man
Disney Movie Club's price changes are definitely not working properly in Canada.
26.95, but 10.78 if I take advantage of the offer. *clicks on "With Offer"* "Buy 1 Movie at Regular Price Get 50% Off Additional DVDs and Blu-ray Discs!" Okay, but 26.95 - 50% is 13.48 not 10.78... *adds to cart* 26.95.
What else should I add to take advantage of the offer. Here's a Pooh Christmas movie. I don't really want it, but let's just check out this pricing thing. 31.95 regular, 13.98 with offer. 13.98 is not 50% off of 31.95. *adds to cart* Pooh is 31.95 as you'd expect, and Frozen is 13.48, not 10.78. Movies that are 21.95 movies are listed as 10.78 with the offer (like the Tigger Movie). I have no idea why the price is off by 20 cents, but there you go. Planes is listed as 44.95 -> 17.98 after the offer (as though the base price should be 34.95)
I suspect what's happening is that the prices the offer is working properly (50% off reported full price), but the price reported for the offer is based on a discounted price that hasn't properly taken effect.
26.95, but 10.78 if I take advantage of the offer. *clicks on "With Offer"* "Buy 1 Movie at Regular Price Get 50% Off Additional DVDs and Blu-ray Discs!" Okay, but 26.95 - 50% is 13.48 not 10.78... *adds to cart* 26.95.
What else should I add to take advantage of the offer. Here's a Pooh Christmas movie. I don't really want it, but let's just check out this pricing thing. 31.95 regular, 13.98 with offer. 13.98 is not 50% off of 31.95. *adds to cart* Pooh is 31.95 as you'd expect, and Frozen is 13.48, not 10.78. Movies that are 21.95 movies are listed as 10.78 with the offer (like the Tigger Movie). I have no idea why the price is off by 20 cents, but there you go. Planes is listed as 44.95 -> 17.98 after the offer (as though the base price should be 34.95)
I suspect what's happening is that the prices the offer is working properly (50% off reported full price), but the price reported for the offer is based on a discounted price that hasn't properly taken effect.
Christopher
Member
Anyone NOT want their digital copy I'm going digital only and will be happy to make arrangements with Jungle Book