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The Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion |OT|
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Lonesome_Raod
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Hey have you guys seen the scans of the PC gamer issue with the pics from the upcoming expansion, the shivering isles? looks sweet as a nut. Set in Sheogoraths realm. Hope we see plug ins continue as well though and would love at least another expansion to match Mowinds 2. Awesome.
Kung Fu Jedi
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Vark said:
Awesome Vark! Congrats on the new job and project. Can't wait to hear what you're working on. Are you actually working for one of the companies here in Austin now? There are quite a few game companies here, some in the same building where I work, and that would literally put you in my backyard. And yeah, no problem wit running out of beer here.
I just got Oblivion so I have some questions...
1.- When you break in a house, are you always gonna get caught? Or is there some way to avoid the guards that discover you entered into the house?
2.- Can you get a horse of your own later on?
Yeah. Not really a question but I don't like OB interface as much as Morrowind. Its not really well sorted out.
1.- When you break in a house, are you always gonna get caught? Or is there some way to avoid the guards that discover you entered into the house?
2.- Can you get a horse of your own later on?
Yeah. Not really a question but I don't like OB interface as much as Morrowind. Its not really well sorted out.
MirageDwarf
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If you don't let anyone see you enter, you'll always get away with it.inthezone said:
Your best bet is the do it a night. Save for a few guards and some late nighters, almost everyone would be asleep. So there's less chance that you'd be spotted.
While in a home, you should use stealth (stay crouched while you're moving around) so you don't make any noise. This way if the owner is home and sleeping, they'll stay that way.
If you plan to make breaking into homes a habit (wink wink). Build up your lockpicking and stealth skills.
Yep, you can buy horses later.
There are a few Quests where you can get one free of charge upon completion. Even one that's stronger, faster than the others and immortal.
I'm having a good time with the Knights of the Nine quest so far. One gaffe that cost me some time: I was praying at the wrong kind of shrines. The shrines to the Nine and the Aleid shrines are similar, and give similar effects. It also doesn't help that there's an Aleid one right on the map marker, usually close to the correct shrine. I discovered this at the fourth one, which finally updated my quest log. I'm doing it as an actual pilgramage, walking from each to each doing some caves and gathering Mage's Guild recomendations, so it took some time. :lol
The first dungeon,
, was excellent and I hope in an indication of how the rest of the new dungeons are designed. It didn't feel like any of the others in the game, with holes knocked into walls you have to jump up and climb through, connecting two different sets of ruins. Very cool stuff. I find the core game mechanics so enjoyable, as long as Bethesda keeps adding content like this, I could just play it forever. The full expansion can't come soon enough.
The first dungeon,
with the underwater entrance
MirageDwarf
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Confidence Man
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You can probably halve whatever length they tell you it'll be and that's the reality.
That is too short. Im hoping they changed the landscapes. Oblivion landscapes are beautiful and whatever but really it gets waaay too old to see a fantastic beautiful forest all the time.
Morrowind had some variation in that department. The wasteland was boring sure but there was more than just that.
Is it bad if I think Morrowind was somehow, better than Oblivion?
Morrowind had some variation in that department. The wasteland was boring sure but there was more than just that.
Is it bad if I think Morrowind was somehow, better than Oblivion?
From the seperate thread on the expansion:inthezone said:
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=5206428&postcount=53
I'm having fun in Knights of the Nine so far. 16 hours into a new character, about 1/2 new content, 1/2 stuff I'm doing on the side. Loving it. I just did a series of puzzles that *gasp* the game didn't spoil - I actually had to figure them out on my own.
I was hoping for more than 30 hours, but I'll start a new character for it, and doing some stuff to get that character going will add to the time for me. The early stages of developing a character are the most interesting for me.
The higher your level, the harder they are to find. You'll usually find them in and near shrines, ruins and swamps. I wish I knew the exact outdoor locations off hand, but it's been too long since I've played it.MMaRsu said:
However, since you only need the dust, you can find it at:
-Bruma Mages Guild: On a table in the alchemy room (basement).
-A few vendors in the Imperial City (Market District) have them as well:
*Ogier Georick at The Main Ingredient
*Claudette Perrick at the Gilded Carafe
*Calindil at Mystic Emporium
After you have reached level 12, it'll be available from other alchemy vendors too.
edit:
They should be near the Azura shrine actually...
Just finished Knights of the Nine. Reviews have been posted, so just a few comments, in bullet form. Spoilers, obviously.
*The new enemy was a nice surprise. I didn't know there was one in there.
*The new dungeons were great, and felt different than the others in the game. It's clear some effort went into designing them. One problem: the final relic, held by a mid-boss as it were, was in a dungeon that already existed in the game. I'd done it on my last game, and it's one of the best in the game, but after a series of quests with original content it felt like a cop-out.
*The last dungeon was waaaaaay too easy. I had a pack of Knights who just plowed through the enemies en masse - the final showdown had them spawning and dropping in about eight seconds flat. I actually stopped fighting them since I kept whacking my guys by accident.
*The boss was cool visually, but was a total pushover. Skeleton Guardians were tougher than him by a wide margin. Both of him! Each fight lasted a few seconds as I pummeled him so hard he got stuck in a constant stagger.
*The puzzles were great, and I hope that's an indication of the expansion. Having to do the pilgramage without markers was a nice change of pace as well. Overall a much better job balancing out hand-holding with pointing you in the right direction than the main game.
*Worth the $10, IMO. Bring on the expansion. My next character is going to be one evil ****ing battle mage.
*The new dungeons were great, and felt different than the others in the game. It's clear some effort went into designing them. One problem: the final relic, held by a mid-boss as it were, was in a dungeon that already existed in the game. I'd done it on my last game, and it's one of the best in the game, but after a series of quests with original content it felt like a cop-out.
*The last dungeon was waaaaaay too easy. I had a pack of Knights who just plowed through the enemies en masse - the final showdown had them spawning and dropping in about eight seconds flat. I actually stopped fighting them since I kept whacking my guys by accident.
*The boss was cool visually, but was a total pushover. Skeleton Guardians were tougher than him by a wide margin. Both of him! Each fight lasted a few seconds as I pummeled him so hard he got stuck in a constant stagger.
*The puzzles were great, and I hope that's an indication of the expansion. Having to do the pilgramage without markers was a nice change of pace as well. Overall a much better job balancing out hand-holding with pointing you in the right direction than the main game.
*Worth the $10, IMO. Bring on the expansion. My next character is going to be one evil ****ing battle mage.
bengraven
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jimbo said:
That's not usually how they work. They only make one each generation or so and filled in the gaps with expansions or spin-offs (for this game, microtransactions! :lol ). At least, that's how they worked back in the day.
With the pressures they may be feeling having a huge hit, the sudden order for a sequel could be inevitable. Of course, they are an independent company with no controlling parent company, so they may be able to still say "not for another four or five years".
ShutEye said:
I thought it was worth the $10, in large part because I enjoyed the new things. There are some unique dungeon designs, weapons, armor and some other things. If you *just* plow through the quest, doing fast-travel everywhere, you can probably get through it in 6-8 hours. I started a character just for it, and did a few things to develop her along the way, so that stetched it out to ~16 hours for me. The expansion will undoubtedly have a better cost
laytime ratio, though. I'm nervous about the announced playtime of the expansion, though. Knights of the Nine was said to have 10-20 hours of playtime, and that's quite the exaggeration. Compared to the other factions in the main game, it's easily the shortest. I hope the 30-hour estimate for Shivering Isles is a conservative one.
It was more of a climactic battle. I found it rather satisfying, but I can see why you might want a boss.MMaRsu said:
I hope another will come this gen. And I really hope they'll fully utilize the power of the 360 for the next-one. Not really for graphics, but for everything else. I'd be happy if the graphics remained the same (except for the terrible textures in the distance) and they'd use the power for everything else (gameplay-wise and technologically-wise)jimbo said:
rollingstart
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Im hoping ES5 comes out by 2009, looks better than Crysis, better combat, set years ahead of Oblivion/Morrowind time where you can see the advance in technology, and feature the full map of Tamriel (the game would be HUGE, and even if it still includes Morrowind and Cyrodiil, they would be quite different since it would be a far later time) where you could select where you start and that would effect the story
bengraven
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Linkzg said:
The first three are probably the most realistic, but the next few hopes are beyond that.
Edit: although with
the death of any Septim heirs
another Septim-less government was put into place
As for the whole map being available? Not going to happen. They have a franchise here and they don't want to blow their load.
platypotamus
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GhaleonEB said:
I used it in at least one quest where I needed to grab an item that was guarded by something that I didn't want to or couldn't fight. Telekinesis while stealthed allows you to snag the item without being spotted (might not be 100% effective though, it worked the times I needed it).
rollingstart
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bengraven said:
they could go out of Cyrodiil for 6 and up, and didnt Elder Scrolls 1 have all of Cyrodiil?
Kung Fu Jedi
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MMaRsu said:
Eh...don't sweat it. No one should complain about spoilers when a game has been out for nearly 10 months, and they're in an "Official Thread". Especially one that is over 10k in size.
Linkzg said:
2009 is way too early for a next TES but you never know. With the breathrough success of Oblivion I would guess Bethesda would speed up the fifth installment but I would like them to take their time. A Q2 2010- Q4 2010 would be a great time.
I also think they should completely swith artstyles. I love Morrowind and Oblivion art but they gotta change it. Something more modern, not present day modern or fully futuristic ala FFXIII but maybe a clash of artstyles between the Thief series (Dark medieval) and FFVII (future industrial). I like the look of those in Advent Children. Although that would make it too moody so maybe throw in some beautiful, nature sceneries for a change.
Gameplay-wise. There's some work to do though I loved how they improved it in Oblivion. A lot of fine details that make combat so much better than in Morrowind. Though I would like to see some sim-like features like flirting and marriage, have a wife, be able to cheat on your wife, have families or whatnot... that would take too much time but would be totally awesome!
It would be cool to have both Cyrodill and Morrowind together but it'll probably be a new land set years ahead. We couyld probably see lots of references from those places though.
I would like to see the next TES on curent gen plataforms but Im not holding my breath. I truly believe storage will become an issue by then for 360 games and disk swapping fora TES game is unnaceptable.
Anyway those are my crazy ideas...:lol
Some good ideas actually.
The hardest aspect of TES 5 for me to imagine is the setting and the world. As you said, it should change from the classical medieval period and be modernised somehow. How much or in what direction though I'm not really sure. Perhaps they could make a hybrid of a traditional medieval setting with an industrial kind of one - as if to say the two are in conflict with one another in this new era.
The hardest aspect of TES 5 for me to imagine is the setting and the world. As you said, it should change from the classical medieval period and be modernised somehow. How much or in what direction though I'm not really sure. Perhaps they could make a hybrid of a traditional medieval setting with an industrial kind of one - as if to say the two are in conflict with one another in this new era.
MirageDwarf
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I really hope that next Elder Scrolls come soon. Bethesda has already developed engine for current gen hardware. So I think it might be possible to develop new game in 2 yrs or so.
Most important part of the next game is already done.
Most important part of the next game is already done.
Xenon
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Ok i'm going to try to begin the game again with a new character. I had no idea what I was doing the first time and my character is just a mess.
I want to make a pure monk\mage. He's not going to use melee weapons, bows or any form of armor. So my focus is going H2H, Destruction, Alteration, Conjuration and basic Restoration magic. My question is about the leveling system since its been a while. I know if I select any of those as my major skills my character will shoot up in levels, something I want to avoid. I plan to have things like Mysticism, Illusion as major skills with the rest set to skills I will not use like heavy armor, blade, ect. This way I can trigger a level up when needed. The character will have no major skills with the Wisdom attribute. Will I still be able to get a +5 to wisdom on level up? I should because I will be leveling up Destruction, Alteration, and Restoration at least 10-15 total each time I level my character.
I hope that made some sense. ES:O's lvl system always seems counter productive to me.
I want to make a pure monk\mage. He's not going to use melee weapons, bows or any form of armor. So my focus is going H2H, Destruction, Alteration, Conjuration and basic Restoration magic. My question is about the leveling system since its been a while. I know if I select any of those as my major skills my character will shoot up in levels, something I want to avoid. I plan to have things like Mysticism, Illusion as major skills with the rest set to skills I will not use like heavy armor, blade, ect. This way I can trigger a level up when needed. The character will have no major skills with the Wisdom attribute. Will I still be able to get a +5 to wisdom on level up? I should because I will be leveling up Destruction, Alteration, and Restoration at least 10-15 total each time I level my character.
I hope that made some sense. ES:O's lvl system always seems counter productive to me.
PedroLumpy
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I heard somewhere that the Knights of the Nine expansion thing contains all the previous expansions (Horse Armor, Orrery, razor etc.). Can't remember where I heard it. Is this true? I'll be grabbing it off Live if so.
And on another note, for character creation. I haven't come up with something perfect yet, but right now I got a character with Main skills: Block, Blunt, Light armor, Mysticism, Alteration, Illusion, and Marksmen
I'm level 15 right now, and for sure, Blunt should have been hand to hand. Also, I hit 100 in speed just as my light armor hit 95, so I ****ed up there by one level. As well block needs to replaced. The problem is all three endurance and speed skills I want to be able to use all the time. I'm thinking taking two main skills each in the willpower and the intelligence magic schools. Haven't made that yet, it's hard to go back and start all over again since power leveling is difficult in comparison to Morrowind. I don't know why they were so determind to kill power leveling in this one.
And on another note, for character creation. I haven't come up with something perfect yet, but right now I got a character with Main skills: Block, Blunt, Light armor, Mysticism, Alteration, Illusion, and Marksmen
I'm level 15 right now, and for sure, Blunt should have been hand to hand. Also, I hit 100 in speed just as my light armor hit 95, so I ****ed up there by one level. As well block needs to replaced. The problem is all three endurance and speed skills I want to be able to use all the time. I'm thinking taking two main skills each in the willpower and the intelligence magic schools. Haven't made that yet, it's hard to go back and start all over again since power leveling is difficult in comparison to Morrowind. I don't know why they were so determind to kill power leveling in this one.
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