• Hey, guest user. Hope you're enjoying NeoGAF! Have you considered registering for an account? Come join us and add your take to the daily discourse.

The Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion |OT|

Just bought the game. Dunno if I should use spoiler tags on a game that's almost a year old, but here goes. I did the quest in Imperial City about the grave digging and the selling of the stuff. Now I'm heading to the Priory to meet up with the guy for the main quest. On my way, I encountered a dumb fisherman who needs me to kill some fishies for him. Those fish are damn mean, and fighting underwater is completely stupid. Any other way to kill them? Don't tell me I've got to get wet and kill them with my sword while swimming. I'm playing Zelda right now, and I'm not used to badly designed fights and such.
 
I'll agree with you that fighting underwater sucks. I hated it in pretty much all the Elder Scrolls games. That said, I'm not sure of any other way to kill off the fishes. Spells don't even work down there, but if you can lure them to the surface you may be able to hit them with a spell then.
 
Well the fighting itself isn't that great, so underwater makes it all the more painful. I'm a scout. I dunno if I picked the bad class or something, didn't read anything before going in. Should I push the main quest forward at first, or should I stay in Imperial City and "clear the place"? I dunno, I feel a little lost. I felt that way with Morrowind and didn't play that long because of it, but Oblivion is so purrrty.
 
Foreign Jackass said:
Well the fighting itself isn't that great, so underwater makes it all the more painful. I'm a scout. I dunno if I picked the bad class or something, didn't read anything before going in. Should I push the main quest forward at first, or should I stay in Imperial City and "clear the place"? I dunno, I feel a little lost. I felt that way with Morrowind and didn't play that long because of it, but Oblivion is so purrrty.

You can approach it either way. Because the creatures you'll face along the way will scale to your level, you're going to face a similar challenge no matter which level you'll be doing the quests at. At least in theory.

The game can be very overwhelming at first. After you exit the prison, and step out into the world, you sometimes get a feeling of "what next?". Especially at first, where I think you need a little direction.

Generally, I recommend going to a nearby dungeon at first just to explore, and get use to the game mechanics. The combat does take some getting use to, but there is more number crunching and statistics being examined than in something like Zelda. Your skill levels with your weapon of choice, your stats, and your overall level all come into play, so I think it's important to get an understand about how the combat and other items work in the game. For instance, learning to pick locks goes a long way, as does learning to sneak. Work those out ahead of time in a non-quest related dungeon. You'll also gain some experience, gold and possibly better items as well.

From there, I usuall recommend starting off on the main quest. That will give you a feel for navigating around in the world. Using the map pointers to get you in the right direction, maybe even fast traveling. Interacting with the main characters, and get you interested in the story. It also serves to give you some direction while you get more familiar with the game.

After that, I'd say branch out on some side quests. There are dozens and dozens of them in the game, and many of them are very good. Some are fairly simple and boring, but there are plenty that are deep, involved, and creative. The more comfortable you get, the more you'll start to explore on your own, and you'll be suprised at the things you want to do.

Also, once you start off on the path of the character type you want to play, you'll probably want to do some of the guild quests. If you're heavy into using magic, I'd highly recommend doing the Mage Guild quests early on. You'll get all kinds of new spells and gain entrance into the Arcane University which will help you with creating your own spells and magical items down the road. The Fighter's guild proved less useful over the long run, but still builds your skill levels, and gets you some cash and contacts. Personally, I'd save the Thieves Guild quests for when you are a little more comfortable and experienced in the game. And definitely save the Dark Brotherhood Quests for the last of the Guild lines. It's amazing.
 

Orodreth

Member
I´m a mage and haven´t had a lot of troubles yet to advance even if i have to rely almost on spells only.

I´m at about 40 hours of gameplay only but havent started the main quest at all, any more than visiting the priory and talk about the son of the emperor. I´ve been doing side quest and geting recomendations for the mages guild.
 

paul777

Banned
I've been playing this game since release and still haven't finished the main quest heh. Started a new character to do the knights of the nine stuff right out of the gate and this time I'm going all the way.
 

f@luS

More than a member.
Just bought it , finished the prison only , looks really cool.
But i already had 2 unreadable disc error , the two were after pausing the game for like 20min and going back...damn that sux. (never had any problem before)
 

-Rogue5-

Member
f@luS said:
Just bought it , finished the prison only , looks really cool.
But i already had 2 unreadable disc error , the two were after pausing the game for like 20min and going back...damn that sux. (never had any problem before)

I know I had a couple while playing Oblivion, but it could have been because I would played in huge 5+ hour sessions. While it's BS that they occur to begin with Oblivion is so good it's worth having to reset.
 

f@luS

More than a member.
yes i dont really bother , i dont care...but i thinik the game really stream a lot coz when i paused and get back into it , i had no music for 5sec then unreadable error....


anyway , amazing feeling getting out of the prison ,u really feel ure going into something big
 

IJoel

Member
What in the...

Bought the Knights of the Nine, and haven't had any luck finding what in the heavens I'm supposed to do. You know, considering the size of the world in Oblivion, it might be a good idea to give the player some sort of hint.

Edit: Finally found out something after visiting
Anvil
. Much better now.
 

Fantasmo

Member
Foreign Jackass said:
Just bought the game. Dunno if I should use spoiler tags on a game that's almost a year old, but here goes. I did the quest in Imperial City about the grave digging and the selling of the stuff. Now I'm heading to the Priory to meet up with the guy for the main quest. On my way, I encountered a dumb fisherman who needs me to kill some fishies for him. Those fish are damn mean, and fighting underwater is completely stupid. Any other way to kill them? Don't tell me I've got to get wet and kill them with my sword while swimming. I'm playing Zelda right now, and I'm not used to badly designed fights and such.

I know this is over a week late, but I'll offer some advice, at the very least, to get Kung Fu Jedi up to speed since he knows practically everything about the game...

Get an item that allows you to walk on water, and the fish will never break the surface. Just look down and start swinging. Easiest quest ever.
 

Troidal

Member
I'm sure this news is on some other thread, but I just wanted to commend Spike (the company who is bringing the game to Japan) for having the balls to localize this massive game...

Of course, we won't know how good the quality of translation is, but still, I would have never thought someone would actually pick it up with the very small 360 market here.
 

Jonnyram

Member
Yeah. Considering the following this game already has on 2ch, it should be interesting to see how it fares. Maybe Spike will hire a few of the guys who have been doing unofficial translation.
 

C4Lukins

Junior Member
Troidal said:
I'm sure this news is on some other thread, but I just wanted to commend Spike (the company who is bringing the game to Japan) for having the balls to localize this massive game...

Of course, we won't know how good the quality of translation is, but still, I would have never thought someone would actually pick it up with the very small 360 market here.

Awesome to hear. I wonder if they are going to translate all of the books in the game and localize the spoken dialogue. That would be a hell of a task.
 
Is there any way of getting better weapons in this game?
I only have a sword, an axe and a few other weapons which do very little damage and keep breaking.
I took the king's son to some castle and when escorting him i noticed he would kill every enemy with one touch. Is there any way i can get similar powers?
 

pilonv1

Member
What level are you? Just have a wander around in some dungeons and you'll usually find something. You might be too low a level to get the good stuff.
 

Panajev2001a

GAF's Pleasant Genius
Jonnyram said:
Yeah. Considering the following this game already has on 2ch, it should be interesting to see how it fares. Maybe Spike will hire a few of the guys who have been doing unofficial translation.

Why couldn't we get a good translation (Italian version)... ? Sigh... the books and subtitles as well as several journal notes are a bit of a pain to read... oh... well... :(.
 

GhaleonEB

Member
Zonar said:
hpw do you find it? I downloaded it now what?
When you start your regular game, a new quest prompt will pop up describing some "rumors" you've heard, and the marker appears on your map. It may take a few minutes of game time to pop up.
 

bengraven

Member
Agent Icebeezy said:
I've downloaded it, but never played it. I need to get into that soon

Yeah, I paid for it, but never played it, either. And supposedly it's linked to Morrowind. Will have to get to that when I have a chance.
 

pilonv1

Member
Kung Fu Jedi said:
So why didn't you? It's been out for months! ;)

Because I wasn't sure of the quality of it. Because of how much I enjoyed it I grabbed the Vile Lair, The Orrery and Knights of the Nine. Such an awesome game .
 

GhaleonEB

Member
Okay, I'm playing the Knights of the Nine questline, which means I have to ask stupid questions again. It's like the good old days, back around post 7,000 or so.

I'm doing the Pilgramage quest to start it off; are the shrines I'm supposed to visit the ones that give the message "you draw power from the well" when you select them? The quest log doesn't update, and they don't seem to be exactly where they are on the map I'm given.
 
pilonv1 said:
Because I wasn't sure of the quality of it. Because of how much I enjoyed it I grabbed the Vile Lair, The Orrery and Knights of the Nine. Such an awesome game .

Ok. Well then, Bethesda forgives you. :)

And no, I haven't picked it up. Too busy playing other stuff right now. :) Can you still download it for free? I may snag it, and save it for down the road.
 

raYne

Member
GhaleonEB said:
I'm doing the Pilgramage quest to start it off; are the shrines I'm supposed to visit the ones that give the message "you draw power from the well" when you select them? The quest log doesn't update, and they don't seem to be exactly where they are on the map I'm given.
Yeah, they're the same Wayshrines (one dedicated to each of the Nine Divines) you've seen throughout the game. White-ish stone well-like structure surrounded by either standing of fallen columns.

..and yes, you should get a message that you've "Prayed at the Wayshrine of *"

Kung Fu Jedi said:
Can you still download it for free? I may snag it, and save it for down the road.
Yep. Still up... Though I could've sworn it was supposed to be for one day only. I'm probably confusing it with something else.. *shrugs*

I'd grad it in a hurry if I were you. Never know when they'll change their minds. :D
 

GhaleonEB

Member
raYne said:
Yeah, they're the same Wayshrines (one dedicated to each of the Nine Divines) you've seen throughout the game. White-ish stone well-like structure surrounded by either standing of fallen columns.

..and yes, you should get a message that you've "Prayed at the Wayshrine of *"


Yep. Still up... Though I could've sworn it was supposed to be for one day only. I'm probably confusing it with something else.. *shrugs*

I'd grad it in a hurry if I were you. Never know when they'll change their minds. :D
It's up until the 31st.

and uh-oh on my game. I've prayed at three of those shrines and my quest log has never updated saying I've done so. :(
 

raYne

Member
Hmm.. well, as improbable as it sounds, you could just be praying at the wrong ones.

If you quicktravel, it shouldn't take that long to do all of them. So hopefully it'll work out when you're done.
 
I'm currently playing this game and it's ****ing awesome. I found one really funny thing. Not sure if anybody else has seen this.

In Weynon Priory quest, I talked to Brother Martin and asked him to follow me. I also asked Jauffre and he said that he would also fight for Martin. After that I didn't continue that quest and has been going on all other different quests. Since I told Martin to follow me, I now have two teammates for me. They fight for me. And they never die. Only lose consciousness for short time. :lol :lol

And so far, they have killed two persons at different locations for the reason I don't know. They just saw them and started fight and killed them. They are: Eugal Bellete (in Chorrel) & Else God-Hater (in Skingrad). :lol :lol

Now I will wait much longer to resume my main quest. It's good to have teammates for looting caves and dungeons. :D
 

raYne

Member
MirageDwarf said:
I'm currently playing this game and it's ****ing awesome. I found one really funny thing. Not sure if anybody else has seen this.

In Weynon Priory quest, I talked to Brother Martin and asked him to follow me. I also asked Jauffre and he said that he would also fight for Martin. After that I didn't continue that quest and has been going on all other different quests. Since I told Martin to follow me, I now have two teammates for me. They fight for me. And they never die. Only lose consciousness for short time. :lol :lol

And so far, they have killed two persons at different locations for the reason I don't know. They just saw them and started fight and killed them. They are: Eugal Bellete (in Chorrel) & Else God-Hater (in Skingrad). :lol :lol

Now I will wait much longer to resume my main quest. It's good to have teammates for looting caves and dungeons. :D
Oh Oblivion.. How I love thee.. :lol

Those characters (Eugal and Else) are actually "evil". That's why they were killed by your followers.

The downside to this of course, is that now you obviously won't be able to do the Quests related to them.
 
raYne said:
Oh Oblivion.. How I love thee.. :lol

Those characters (Eugal and Else) are actually "evil". That's why they were killed by your followers.

The downside to this of course, is that now you obviously won't be able to do the Quests related to them.

You are right about quests. But I searched on the net and couldn't find any quests related to them. This can be a problem in future though.
 

raYne

Member
MirageDwarf said:
You are right about quests. But I searched on the net and couldn't find any quests related to them. This can be a problem in future though.
Oh, it will be a problem in the future. 'Cause they'll just kill all the "evil" characters before you get a chance to even start the related side quests.

Nothing game breaking should happen though. Since, as you know, people related to the main quests can't be killed.

Though this also means that if they actually get into a fight with a main quester, they'll be fighting forever.

...:lol
 

GhaleonEB

Member
raYne said:
Oh, it will be a problem in the future. 'Cause they'll just kill all the "evil" characters before you get a chance to even start the related side quests.

Nothing game breaking should happen though. Since, as you know, people related to the main quests can't be killed.

Though this also means that if they actually get into a fight with a main quester, they'll be fighting forever.

...:lol
I was wondering about that. I might try this just to see if I can get the guards in a city involved in the melee - have Martin smack one by mistake and they'll empty out the city barracks trying to take him down.

Which leaves them empty for me to loot. Hmmmm. :D
 

raYne

Member
GhaleonEB said:
I was wondering about that. I might try this just to see if I can get the guards in a city involved in the melee - have Martin smack one by mistake and they'll empty out the city barracks trying to take him down.

Which leaves them empty for me to loot. Hmmmm. :D
I love it when a plan comes together.

*smokes cigar*
 

Aurora

Member
Just got a 360 last week and I've been playing Blivy all day every day.

Such an amazing game, can't get enough of it.

By the way, I downloaded the Mehrune's Razor quest on MP but have no clue how to activate it. I started my main game and no questline was prompted or anything.
 

raYne

Member
Aurora said:
By the way, I downloaded the Mehrune's Razor quest on MP but have no clue how to activate it. I started my main game and no questline was prompted or anything.
That's weird. It hould've started right up on the first game load after the download.

You could always chck your "Active Quests" page. If not, reboot and see what happens.
 

SteveMeister

Hang out with Steve.
I've been playing Knights of the Nine myself. Hadn't seen much of it at all while it was being developed. You actually get to explore without quest markers for a change -- none of the wayshrines have map markers, so you have to search around for them. ProTip -- hot-key the map the guy gives you :)
 

Aurora

Member
raYne said:
That's weird. It hould've started right up on the first game load after the download.

You could always chck your "Active Quests" page. If not, reboot and see what happens.
Ghaleon mentioned that the quest would refer to "rumours" I have heard. Does this mean I must speak to certain NPCs about these rumours before the quest can be triggered?

When I'm on the main menu of Oblivion a popup comes up saying "Adding additional content" so I assumed I was all set. I guess I'll try looking through my quest backlog and see if there's anything Muhrune's Razor related.
 

raYne

Member
Aurora said:
Ghaleon mentioned that the quest would refer to "rumours" I have heard. Does this mean I must speak to certain NPCs about these rumours before the quest can be triggered?
Whoops, forgot about that. Yeah, you actually have to do the work yourself.

You need to travel around to various cities and talk to the npc's to get started.

SteveMeister said:
I've been playing Knights of the Nine myself. Hadn't seen much of it at all while it was being developed. You actually get to explore without quest markers for a change -- none of the wayshrines have map markers, so you have to search around for them. ProTip -- hot-key the map the guy gives you :)
If by "hot-key the map" you mean "print out a copy and tape it to your tv", then.. yep. :lol

Oh, and I know Vark is gone, but he was supposed to tell you to "get back to work" on my behalf.

;)
 
raYne said:
He isn't at Bethesda anymore. Works for another dev now, so he moved and everything.

Seems it's an upgrade though, so all's well. :)

Good to know! Hope he's enjoying the new job and working on a very cool project.
 

Vark

Member
Kung Fu Jedi said:
What happened to Vark? :(

I'm in your backyard, drinking your beer.

As for Martin being your trained lackey, I got him to attack everyone at Cloud Ruler once, it was awsome.
 
Vark said:
I'm in your backyard, drinking your beer.

As for Martin being your trained lackey, I got him to attack everyone at Cloud Ruler once, it was awsome.

I'll be right out back. Dont drink it all though! ;)

Any hints on the new project? It'll just stay between us. I swear! ;)
 

Vark

Member
Kung Fu Jedi said:
I'll be right out back. Dont drink it all though! ;)

Any hints on the new project? It'll just stay between us. I swear! ;)

Drinking Austin dry would be a herculean feat.

No hints, just awsome. Totally different genre though, trying to get a little variety under my belt.
 
Top Bottom