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The Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion |OT|

Sysgen

Member
In a dungeon I killed a Necromancer and took his mace that had a green dot in it's icon. It destroyed 25% Magica on hit. I saved quit the game and when i reloaded the mace lost the dot and it's amgical property. Pissed me off becuase I thought I found something special. A magical item without uses, just always on. So unless I am misunderstanding the green dot, then this is a save/restore bug.
 
Joe said:
ok so its a few days later, how is oblivion holding up? how does it compare to morrowind?

i know these questions have been asked before but i wanted to ask now since its been out a few days and i wanted to ask people who are actually playing it.

It's great. Can't you tell by the length of this thread alone? Seriously, go buy it! :)
 
More crazy physics happened to me today, literally made me :lol . Was in a eleven ruin that was literally chock full of traps, like spike holes and slicers and what not. Anyways I was wandering into this one room when the battle music started up and then I heard this loud "SMASH" and assumed that the "attacker" had just met a sad fate with a raising block smasher thing. Well I was right, it had, but as I turned to look, I saw (and heard) a skeleton going crazy-nuts on this block, dancing around like crazy on it. It was hilarious, I wish I had Fraps running at the time, I would have gotten a video. It was priceless. Sadly it ended after a few minutes when the block smashed again. Still very funny though.
 
"Ok but then what happened to the green dot and the enchantment? Same question. Temporary?"


Poison can only be used once (per application). Did you hit anything with it?
 

Sysgen

Member
Teknopathetic said:
"Ok but then what happened to the green dot and the enchantment? Same question. Temporary?"


Poison can only be used once (per application). Did you hit anything with it?

Yup. OK now how do I make a poisoned weapon? I have all these nasty potions I created.
 

Sysgen

Member
Uncle said:
You select the poison and click a (or what ever on the pc) to apply.

Ok I tried it and of course it works and will no doubt make the game easier. I've got tons of these burdeon potions and such that I've been accumulating.
 

Azih

Member
Problem with the monk class is that I haven't seen any brass knuckles or other kinda weapons that you can equip yourself with. The whole aspect of finding useful status ailments that you can inflict on your enemies using magical weapons is lost. Being a pure brawler is kinda dull for me.
 
Azih said:
Problem with the monk class is that I haven't seen any brass knuckles or other kinda weapons that you can equip yourself with. The whole aspect of finding useful status ailments that you can inflict on your enemies using magical weapons is lost. Being a pure brawler is kinda dull for me.

What class you rocking ?
 

Azih

Member
I made a custom class who's kinda like the Monk but based on combat not stealth

Athlectics
Acrobatics
Restoration
Destruction
Alteration
Stealth
Hand to Hand

Redguard, Sign of the Warrior.

I called the class S.Fighter. (guess what it's short for).

I made a mistake with Alteration though, I shoulda picked Block instead, but the game manual was hella confusing as to whether Block affects shield less hand to hand fighters or not (it does).

My character has crazy strength, lots of hit points and adrenalin rush is a cool power, but my strategy has boiled down to kill one enemy, heal, spend a lot of time waiting for my mana to regenerate so I can heal again, and move on. I tried doing the game without wearing armour, but that got too frustrating with the scaling enemies and now I'm wearing Light Armour. Kinda kills the Street Fighter effect I was trying for :(.

Trust me, go for some weapon specialisation and play around with Alchemy or a class with a lot of magicka.

Unless someone can tell me If I'm missing something with the class I created? Help? Can I play a pure martial artist?

If the game didn't scale so hard I could grind up in level and still do it. If I really am consigned to dull fight and heal tactics then I'm going to just turn the slider down, enjoy my custom class and make a nasty nasty assassin character for my next playthrough
 

Speevy

Banned
My Arms Your Hearse said:
This seems a ridiculous question... however...

Can you BUY potions for health/magicka? Where?



Every alchemist sells potions. Check the mage's guilds. There are other places which sell potions too. You can also make health and magicka potions.

How? Kill deer.
 

knitoe

Member
Anyone know where I can find Heavy Armor Trainer Journeyman or above? I have checked very city and only came up with 2 Apprentice which does me no good.
 
GreekWolf said:
I just found it!!

3 chests in all. One in the crumbled tower, directly to the left of the ruins. One about halfway up the trail, behind a huge rock that is right next to a crumbled stone wall. The last one called the forgotten chest, is located up high and to the right of the Serpent's Trail door ( if you were facing towards the door ).

I ended up having to use my nighteye ring to find the last chest, because all of the snow and fog was hard to see through.

The Wizard's ring is definitely worth it, definitely an "uber" item in the game. I won't spoil it for you, but it's sure as heck nicer than that stupid Dragonstone that the countess is slobbering over. :lol

I found all the chests and all I got is a lousy
Omnipotence Circlet or w/e
. It's ok. =/
 

jedimike

Member
Joe said:
ok so its a few days later, how is oblivion holding up? how does it compare to morrowind?

i know these questions have been asked before but i wanted to ask now since its been out a few days and i wanted to ask people who are actually playing it.

It just keeps getting better and better. I keep waiting for dissapointment in the game, but around every corner is just more amazement.

It's got quite the buzz going for it as well. Twice, I've been on the bus and have heard strangers talking about the game. Today, one of my XBL friends stopped by my work and we were exchanging stories without trying to reveal spoilers. He was telling me about a pirate ship he owned... I'm a Lvl 9 character and haven't even seen this ship!

The radiant AI is unbelievable... some of the shit the NPC's do just cracks me up.
 
OK....I really hate when people do this but......GOTY :D

Honestly even with all the technical flaws I've run into I cant pull my self away from the game.

Some of the Guild Quests have more depth than most standalone titles. Incredible. Just today I was wondering around the forest and I stumbled upon some ruins....I've been in there for the last 2 hours! :lol Found me a nice necklace that lets me
breathe underwater!

I think Im gonna stop using fast travel completly. I had no idea I was missing so much of this game.
 

syllogism

Member
knitoe said:
Anyone know where I can find Heavy Armor Trainer Journeyman or above? I have checked very city and only came up with 2 Apprentice which does me no good.

Valus Odiil - Chorrol
Varnado - The Best Defense in the Imperial City's Market District

Master

Pranal - Roxey Inn, Red Ring Road near the northeast corner of Lake Rumare

edit: Where's SnakeX :(
 
syllogism said:
Valus Odiil - Chorrol
Varnado - The Best Defense in the Imperial City's Market District

Master

Pranal - Roxey Inn, Red Ring Road near the northeast corner of Lake Rumare

edit: Where's SnakeX :(

I'm friends with SnakeXs in real-life and he's been glued to his tv since Oblivion came out. I've spoken to him for maybe 20 minutes tops since last Tuesday. :lol
 

Speevy

Banned
I made a definitive list of things this game does better than Morrowind and things Morrowind does better than this game. Yours may vary.


How Oblivion is superior to Morrowind

-Graphics that actually make you want to look at them
-Better-scripted quests and freelance quests
-Better main story
-Far more stable
-Better sound design (music and effects)
-Combat that's actually fun and not tedious
-Improved lockpicking
-Improved interface/menus
-Far fewer fetch quests, though they are still present
-Fast travel system if you are so inclined
-Poisons
-Radiant AI/character interactions
-Physics
-Horses
-More immediate payoff for home-buying system
-NPC's aren't merely clones, each has a specific role in society
-Much more difficult to break the game's stat system in your favor
-Forts, ruins, and caves have far better designs, complete with booby traps, underground lakes, and other things.
-NPC's can now enter doors both for combat and routine purposes



Things Morrowind does better than this game

-Sneaking into buildings/homes and stealing things is completely taken away by the game's item scaling system, which for some reason has no effect on towns. You can also find illogical bumps in the gear/weapons your adversaries are carrying, as glass, ebony, and daedric armor eventually becomes commonplace.
-Level scaling for enemies may irk people, as it punishes the player for leveling quickly
-Faction system is really dumbed down, no great houses or vampire clans for instance
-Need to complete several quests just to make spells/enchantments, Morrowind had fewer I think.
-More weapon types
-This may be a minus or a plus, but the merchant system is less realistic now because of the unlimited funds.



I think the end result of what has changed with Oblivion is that you feel less inclined to make dangerous journeys, and more inclined to take calculated risks, marvel at your surroundings, and complete freelance quests.

My verdict at this stage (35 hours in) is that Betheda designed a great game which has far less to do with the stat system they developed for Morrowind.
 

shpankey

not an idiot
SNUG REVOL said:
I've been in there for the last 2 hours! :lol Found me a nice necklace that lets me
breathe underwater!
found some fish and searched them and got some scales that can be mixed and create a potion to do the same, pretty neat. also found out my horsey can swim! ;P
 

shpankey

not an idiot
also, i've never found a place to sell anything. course i don't look too hard; i'm always too busy with other shit. so i just dump all kinda shit everywhere in great big piles when it gets too heavy. kinda funny to see these huge stockpiles of crap.

also had some fun today.... i entered a town and had no idea i had a stolen item, so i didn't pay and the guards would come after me. so i would just turn around and leave and only one would follow me out the door... so I would fight him till I either killed him, or he got me low on health (in essence getting massive skill points) and if i got in danger then i jumped on my paint horsey and led the guard just up the hill to my peoples, the Blades, who would slaughter his ass. although as i would stay just ahead of the guard chasing, he would sometimes shoot arrows in my horsey's ass (i kid you not, they would actually stick in his ass). then i just kept going back down to the town and doing the same all over again, until their guards bodies were strewn everywhere in my village. our village fucking owns them. we hate them dicks now. :D now how to just to work it out to get my peeps to follow me down into their town and ravage it, light it on fire, kill their people, and torch their homes. can't seem to get this part down yet. hoping they eventually get tired of strays coming up and fuckin with em and just take it upon themselves. as i sit at the top and overlook, grasping my hands laughing alound. :)
 

KarishBHR

Member
So I got out of the cult place, but only after lowering the difficulty to nothing. I have decided I am going to build up my character way more until I continue on the main quest... anyone else find themselves needing to do this, or do I just suck?
 

SnakeXs

about the same metal capacity as a cucumber
syllogism said:
edit: Where's SnakeX :(

SnakeXs...

And, no you weren't right. The only possible way you were right is it not meeting your bloated expectations. It did exactly what it said it would. :)
 

Nerevar

they call me "Man Gravy".
Son of Godzilla said:
Why is enchanting Feather so damn weak? You are basically always better off enchanting strength instead.

Morrowind was the same way. feather / burden are essentially useless spells.
 

Speevy

Banned
I just had the opportunity to cast my first huge area spell. WOW. It's even more fun in this game than Morrowind.

*runs off giddily to flame-broil a town*
 

Azih

Member
KarishBHR said:
So I got out of the cult place, but only after lowering the difficulty to nothing. I have decided I am going to build up my character way more until I continue on the main quest... anyone else find themselves needing to do this, or do I just suck?
Don't do it! All levelling does in is that ou'll find yourself fighting much harder enemies.
 

Suikoguy

I whinny my fervor lowly, for his length is not as great as those of the Hylian war stallions
Sneaking into buildings/homes and stealing things is completely taken away by the game's item scaling system, which for some reason has no effect on towns. You can also find illogical bumps in the gear/weapons your adversaries are carrying, as glass, ebony, and daedric armor eventually becomes commonplace.

Yeah, the items in houses should scale like dungeons.
 

LakeEarth

Member
I finally got a chance to put in a good amount of time into the game, and yeah now I really love it. Some dude came up to me paranoid and asked me to watch some people. I've been watching this chick garden for like 10 minutes now. Yet somehow still awesome :lol

EDIT - i figured to move time ahead, now she took her break, walked back to her house and is now gardening cement.... nice :lol

How do you make money in this game though, damn. Everytime I find a trainer, all my money goes away quick. Nevermind buying a spell. Well maybe I'll figure it out eventually, right now I'm just stealing things and selling them ~10 coins at a time. Still fun.
 

Zensetsu

Member
My character is too badass :( Fame 6, Infamy 30.....got no hope of praying at the temples anytime soon. :lol

Some funny stuff happened while I was playing before, I was hunting deer up in the northern mountains (btw I highly reccomend the hunting mod found here http://www.tessource.net/files/file.php?id=1889 ) and I came across two imperial archers also tracking deer, coming at a herd of them from opposite directions. They both fired and one hit the other - so they forgot about the deer and had a fight! :lol

Also, I finished the thieves guild quest line, the last quest is incredible, took ages but very satisfying.
 

rod

Banned
LakeEarth said:
I finally got a chance to put in a good amount of time into the game, and yeah now I really love it. Some dude came up to me paranoid and asked me to watch some people. I've been watching this chick garden for like 10 minutes now. Yet somehow still awesome :lol

EDIT - i figured to move time ahead, now she took her break, walked back to her house and is now gardening cement.... nice :lol

How do you make money in this game though, damn. Everytime I find a trainer, all my money goes away quick. Nevermind buying a spell. Well maybe I'll figure it out eventually, right now I'm just stealing things and selling them ~10 coins at a time. Still fun.


do the fighters guild quest, u get paid monthly and a fair amount of cash too, when you finish the guild, not to mention the money they pay you along the way
 

GreekWolf

Member
Zensetsu said:
Some funny stuff happened while I was playing before, I was hunting deer up in the northern mountains (btw I highly reccomend the hunting mod found here http://www.tessource.net/files/file.php?id=1889 ) and I came across two imperial archers also tracking deer, coming at a herd of them from opposite directions. They both fired and one hit the other - so they forgot about the deer and had a fight! :lol
DICK CHEANEY MOD FTW! :D
 
Oh man, I am having a blast with this game. I have finally started making a lot of money as a thief (hint: the Arcane University is especially easy pickings) and I just got the Skeleton Key lockpick. I think I'm close to 3/4 of the way done with the Thieves Guild quests, and then it's on to finish all the Dark Brotherhood ones. I don't know if I'll ever get around to the main quest. :D
 
Couple more enchanting questions:

Absorb Attrib and Drain Health both seem absurdly powerful in comparison to anything else. Is there something I'm missing? I'm messing about with Common soul gems
(Already blew the two grands in Arcane lobby)
and while elemental damage maxes out at about 40-50 dmg total, Drain Health can go up to 50 hp for 3 sec??? What blindly obvious thing am I missing to make me think that's godly?

Also, does enchanting grow with level or skill ability or weapon value or something? Or is tossing a Grand soul in the pot max it out as high as possible?
 

GreekWolf

Member
Vyse The Legend said:
I found all the chests and all I got is a lousy
Omnipotence Circlet or w/e
. It's ok. =/
Heck, I love it... but then again, I'm a melee character... so I need all the warrior stats I can get.

If you want some really kick ass armor -
check out Fort Wooden Hand, located in the Great Forest, between the Black Road and the Gold road. The quickest way to find it, is to follow the Gold Road from the Imperial City heading towards Skingrad, until you come across the Green Mead Cave. From there, head due North until you you reach the Haynote Cave, then immediately turn West, and you should reach the Fort within a couple of minutes.

It's a Marauder dungeon, with tons of loot ( which varies, depending on your level )... but the big payoff is when you get to the Boss down in the bottom room. He's wearing an Akaviri Viper Cuirass. He's also wearing enchanted Daedric Greaves, with a +55 bonus to fatigue, and Ebony Storm Boots which offers a 25% resistance to shock.
 

syllogism

Member
SnakeXs said:
SnakeXs...

And, no you weren't right. The only possible way you were right is it not meeting your bloated expectations. It did exactly what it said it would. :)

The "AI" is slightly better than in Gothic 2, so I would say Radiant AI hype was unwarranted. Still better than in any other game (in the genre?) , though.

GreekWolf said:
stuff about loot

Those are almost certainly randomly generated.
 

FlyinJ

Douchebag. Yes, me.
What the hell.

I was in the middle of a quest in a dungeon, and this window pops up that says "You have stolen from the mages guild and are now suspended." I wasn't anywhere near the mages guild, nor was I picking anything up at the time. I was fighting. I've never stolen anything from the mages guild.

What's up with that?
 

Speevy

Banned
FlyinJ said:
What the hell.

I was in the middle of a quest in a dungeon, and this window pops up that says "You have stolen from the mages guild and are now suspended." I wasn't anywhere near the mages guild, nor was I picking anything up at the time. I was fighting. I've never stolen anything from the mages guild.

What's up with that?


It's probably the same logic that applies to hitting someone inside their house, then they run toward a guard, who runs toward you. It's either a glitch or you stole earlier.
 

SnakeXs

about the same metal capacity as a cucumber
syllogism said:
The "AI" is slightly better than in Gothic 2, so I would say Radiant AI hype was unwarranted. Still better than in any other game (in the genre?) , though.

As I said, it does exactly what they claimed. I could care less about outside party hype and hyperbole, but they said it does what it does, and it does it.

I can't say that's what you imagined or not, perhaps you had some idea of a paradise world where it was some true AI recreation of the human mind, but show me 1 thing that they claimed it did or advertised it as, that it doesn't do.
 

Speevy

Banned
SnakeXs said:
Just clocked? About 83 with my main character, then another 15 or so with all my others combined.

-_-



Holy crap! You've spent more than 4 out of the 8 days since this game was released playing.
 
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