The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim PC Performance discussion

Phandy said:
Yes, the shadows are the only really big thing that annoys me graphically other than optimization.
If your running on a low shadows, they do lots of flickering every time they move too. Very noticeable and annoying if your stood still.
Same here, though I am getting the blocky, flickering shadows at Ultra even. It's really jarring.
 
game runs smooth and looks pretty good on my 560, but some of the weapon textures are really gnarly up close (ie all the time when you are holding them).

i have the settings on high, and there doesnt seem to be a higher setting for textures?
 
Grassy said:
I'm also using the 360 controller but mine has a bit of drift in the right stick, which is pretty annoying when I go to lockpick and it insta-breaks my picks :|

There must be a way to set the dead zone on the right stick. I know joytokey has a dead zone setting that helped me for some games since I get a bit of a drift on the sticks too if the dead zone is set to 0%, but those games were without controller support. Not sure how to go about changing the dead zone on 360 controller supported games.
 
Omi said:
I went back a few pages but didn't see any comments re how cpu dependant the game is. Anyone want to hazard a guess? ;)
Looking at the results people post with modest GPUs but good CPUs, it seems more CPU limited than most games at the very least.
 
Corky said:
Anyone else annoyed at how the dynamic day/night cycle is with regards to the shadows moving across the ground? It's really jarring, I mean they move 1 foot and stay still for 10 seconds and then they move another foot right infront of your eyes, combine that with the extremely blocky shadows and it really pulls you out of the game. Anyway to make this transition more fluent ?

I believe you can do something with the shadow setting maybe put in more shadow quarters they are using Cascaded shadow maps if i look at the ini option.
 
So I did that OGSSAA magic and the game now renders at 1.5 times my native resolution with FXAA enabled. I had to set my refresh rate to 50Hz but the game now looks a lot better than before.

Quick question in regards to OGSSAA: If a game renders at twice the resolution it's called 2x2 OGSSAA? By that logic I would have 1.5x1.5 OGSSAA?

I'll have to try what happens to my performance if I go for straight up twice the res, but overall I'd say OGSSAA with FXAA beats the other AA modes. Love it!

The short time I tried it just now I got a pretty solid 50 fps indoors and an average of 40fps outdoors. Now I'll try to fool around with the other settings to see if I can squeeze some more fps out of them.
 
So where are we supposed to be making these .ini tweaks?

I see 3 files, one in steamapps>common>skyrim>skyrim>steamprefs.ini

one is docs>mygames>skyrim>Skyrim.ini
the last is '' '' '' >SkyrimPrefs.ini
 
http://forums.bethsoft.com/index.php?/topic/1257566-potential-shadow-fix/

Shadow fix, it seem to be working for some, but i dont see any change. Maybe it depends of area?

TheOctagon said:
It's an issue with the amount of RAM available to the game, I think. I had crashes and freezes with the in-game screenshot key and PlayClaw (alternative to Fraps) until I made it large address aware, and haven't had any kind of crash since. I guess they're just running closer to the 32bit wire on this one.
It doesnt work for me. Making shot in Fraps still crashes the game on 2x2 OGSSAA, even after making it large address aware. Funny that frapsing video works [in half res] and making shot works also on 1.5x1.5 OGSSAA.
I'll try playclaw.

-edit-
Hmm Playclaw works, so one problem solved.
 
goodfella said:
So where are we supposed to be making these .ini tweaks?

I see 3 files, one in steamapps>common>skyrim>skyrim>steamprefs.ini

one is docs>mygames>skyrim>Skyrim.ini
the last is '' '' '' >SkyrimPrefs.ini
You should change the files in "My Games". The OP tells you where in each file to put each tweak.

Don't forget iPresentInterval=0, IMHO it's the single most important tweak since it greatly improves the responsiveness of the controls.
 
Victrix said:
I love how none of the inventory hotkey prompts change if you customize your hotkeys. By love I mean hate.

Still don't know what button to push to drop an item into a corpse/container.

Any ideas on how to fix the wobbly x/y axis mouse bullshit, where y is faster than x? Even with

fMouseHeadingYScale=0.0200
fMouseHeadingXScale=0.0200

in skyrim.ini

They don't feel like the same speed
Try this:

fMouseHeadingYScale=0.0300
fMouseHeadingXScale=0.0200
 
I'm playing PC Oblivion right now, does Skyrim have Oblivions framerate issues in combat? It could just be my aging PC, but I am well past Oblivions requirements (Phenom 945 3.4GHz, 8800GT). I'll basically cruise along at 60fps at 1680x1050 (medium detail, no AA, etc) but take a serious dive in combat. 1v1 will see the fps cut in half, lord help ya if it's 3+ enemies because you're looking at around 10-12 fps.

I plan on a new video card Dec / Jan (6870 most likely) which may help, but if you guys with better systems still have terrible fps in combat situations it may not help as much as I'd like to think :(
 
Q6600@3.0 ghz
4 GB Ram
GTX 470 SC 1.25GB

What kind of performance should I be getting with this at 1920x1200 with medium settings?Anybody have a similar rig?
 
I'm having some troubles with Skyrim crashing frequently. I'm hoping anyone here knows why

When it crashed the first time it was right after i saw something like this:

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bugthesda2e18fg.jpg

bugthesda35987q.jpg


It crashed to desktop. When i launched the game everything seemed fine but now, every once in a while, it crashes to desktop. It happens pretty much every hour or less. Everything seems to be fine and it just crashes (usually after/during a loading screen).

Those screenshots were taken today (it happened again). When it happened the first time it was only to the plants on the ground like in the last screenshot.

I'm running it on:

2500k @ 4.5Ghz
8Gb ram
GTX570 w/ 285.79 drivers

All maxed out, 1080p, FXAA and some tweaks (i dont think i had any tweaks when it crashed the first time):
mouse smoothing off,
iPresentInterval to 0,
bTreesReceiveShadows=1 and bDrawLandShadows=1
fov 85
 
Is there a way to get this game to run in a custom resolution.

I quite like to game in super widescreen mode. I've got a custom resolution of 1920x816 set via the nVidia control panel but Skyrim doesn't pick it up. Lots of other games do.

Any ideas?
 
Corky said:
Anyone else annoyed at how the dynamic day/night cycle is with regards to the shadows moving across the ground? It's really jarring, I mean they move 1 foot and stay still for 10 seconds and then they move another foot right infront of your eyes, combine that with the extremely blocky shadows and it really pulls you out of the game. Anyway to make this transition more fluent ?
This. And I thought the shadows were just bugged and late to move into place, until after a few seconds when I saw them shift a few inches again.

I guess having them move in real time would have made the already jaggy shadows more horrifying.
 
So I'm in the camp of "get 60fps locked until a get near a city, then 20fps". There doesn't even have to be anyone outside in the city for it to tank. Just the fact I'm in the city.

Oh well. My 580 comes today. Hopefully that will fix it.

COME THE FUCK ON MAILMAN
 
Can any of you guys please give me some insight as to if the performance I'm getting is normal or not?

Here's my rig (laptop):
i7-2630QM
4 GB RAM
Geforce GT540M 1 GB
latest drivers installed

I'm getting around 28 fps indoors, with drops to around 20 fps or worse during fights;
and 20 fps outdoors.
I'm running the game on low settings, with vsync and mouse acceleration (supposedly) deactivated.
The game initially identified my system as medium settings but it was litteraly unplayable.
Help?
 
Has anyone with the appearing/reappearing/flickering texture problem actually managed to fix it? I keep hearing a lot of suggestions that are met with "that didn't work...".

My setup:
2500K (4.7ghz)
2x 6950s (Crossfire)
4 GB RAM
Crucial C3 SSD

I have tried a) disabling crossfire, b) using the Oblivion profile in Radeon Pro, and c) using alternate frame rendering. Nothing has fixed it so far. Haven't tried SSAA yet.
 
catapult37 said:
Has anyone with the appearing/reappearing/flickering texture problem actually managed to fix it? I keep hearing a lot of suggestions that are met with "that didn't work...".

My setup:
2500K (4.7ghz)
2x 6950s (Crossfire)
4 GB RAM
Crucial C3 SSD

I have tried a) disabling crossfire, b) using the Oblivion profile in Radeon Pro, and c) using alternate frame rendering. Nothing has fixed it so far. Haven't tried SSAA yet.
I read a lot of that too here and on a few other forums. I don't know what's the problem really as I don't have the game yet but know enough to see this is a broken release in that regard. That or the wrong ini's are being edited.
 
It really is a very pretty game at times

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Using TheOctagon's tweaks om a 5870 and i7920 @ 3.8 and it stays a 50-60 most places. playing it slow while waiting for the mods to pour in
 
Mt Heart Attack said:
Can any of you guys please give me some insight as to if the performance I'm getting is normal or not?

Here's my rig (laptop):
i7-2630QM
4 GB RAM
Geforce GT540M 1 GB
latest drivers installed

I'm getting around 28 fps indoors, with drops to around 20 fps or worse during fights;
and 20 fps outdoors.
I'm running the game on low settings, with vsync and mouse acceleration (supposedly) deactivated.
The game initially identified my system as medium settings but it was litteraly unplayable.
Help?
I have:

i7-2630QM
8 GB RAM
Geforce GTX 560M 1.5 GB
latest drivers installed

Supposedly better than yours and I have worse performance, around 10-20 fps overall, on minimum settings...
 
iNvidious01 said:
god damn flickering, it starts after 10-15mins of playing, not a performance issue, im stumped
I swear this game needs patching and new drivers from both manufacturers. SOme things work for some but not for others. ini files are both in my documents and in the steamapps folder. And just odd performance that doesn't take advantage of HW like it should. All the while it's a great game.
 
LiquidMetal14 said:
I swear this game needs patching and new drivers from both manufacturers. SOme things work for some but not for others. ini files are both in my documents and in the steamapps folder. And just odd performance that doesn't take advantage of HW like it should. All the while it's a great game.

I only changed the ini file in my documents folder. Was I supposed to change both? Could this be why it's crashing so often?
 
EasyTGT said:
anyone else getting random crashes to desktop? No hard lock up or anything... just quitting out with no warning... happening to me and a friend of mine too
Had 3 of them already.

Autosave saved me.

Usually happen around transitions (fast travel and loading areas)
 
FOV changes via console suddenly aren't working for me anymore. Or at least, they default every time I open up a menu. What? The only tweak I really needed is altering my FOV and now that won't 'save.' h8 life.
 
First Children said:
I have:

i7-2630QM
8 GB RAM
Geforce GTX 560M 1.5 GB
latest drivers installed

Supposedly better than yours and I have worse performance, around 10-20 fps overall, on minimum settings...
Is it possible that on my laptop this game is running on Integrated Graphics instead of the correct gpu?
 
Bungieware said:
I only changed the ini file in my documents folder. Was I supposed to change both? Could this be why it's crashing so often?
Others are editing the steam folder based ini, yes. Like I said, it's sporadic.

GuiltybyAssociation said:
FOV changes via console suddenly aren't working for me anymore. Or at least, they default every time I open up a menu. What? The only tweak I really needed is altering my FOV and now that won't 'save.' h8 life.
Did you do it via consoles, save, quit, then reload?
 
First Children said:
I have:

i7-2630QM
8 GB RAM
Geforce GTX 560M 1.5 GB
latest drivers installed

Supposedly better than yours and I have worse performance, around 10-20 fps overall, on minimum settings...
Have you got it in some sort of laptop power saving mode?
 
LiquidMetal14 said:
Did you do it via consoles, save, quit, then reload?

Yep. Did all that before, it saved my FOV. All of a sudden it just defaults now when I open up a menu, any menu. I didn't tweak anything else either from last time I was playing. I really don't understand.
 
what kind of frame rate do you guys get with OGSSAA? i was thinking of going to get a gtx 570 later on today. i've got a 6950 right now that will go in another system. i could also go 6950 XFire if there was some kind of method to do it on ATI but I need to upgrade the other computer anyway so whatever
 
First Children said:
I have:

i7-2630QM
8 GB RAM
Geforce GTX 560M 1.5 GB
latest drivers installed

Supposedly better than yours and I have worse performance, around 10-20 fps overall, on minimum settings...
So they just downright lied about the required specs (not that it would be a first but still)? According to that systemrequirement tool I (we) should "have a great experience running this product" :(
 
GuiltybyAssociation said:
Yep. Did all that before, it saved my FOV. All of a sudden it just defaults now when I open up a menu, any menu. I didn't tweak anything else either from last time I was playing. I really don't understand.
Try editing in Skyrim.ini to the following - fdefaultfov=80 (work your way up to gauge your own interest). Intervals of 10.

MODS WILL NOW BE IN POST 2. Working on a list at the moment.
 
Mt Heart Attack said:
So they just downright lied about the required specs (not that it would be a first but still)? According to that systemrequirement tool I (we) should "have a great experience running this product" :(
No, that dude is having some kind of other issue, I believe. That machine *should* be running it very well.

As far as running a GT540M in an otherwise similar configuration, that sounds like it's within the range I remember for that card. But the thing is, neither of you guys mentioned what resolution you're running at at all - it's a huge missing piece of the puzzle. If you guys are running on ridiculous 1920x1080 screens, you're going to have to drop that resolution down to open up the performance.
 
foogles said:
No, that dude is having some kind of other issue, I believe. That machine *should* be running it very well.

As far as running a GT540M in an otherwise similar configuration, that sounds like it's within the range I remember for that card. But the thing is, neither of you guys mentioned what resolution you're running at at all - it's a huge missing piece of the puzzle. If you guys are running on ridiculous 1920x1080 screens, you're going to have to drop that resolution down to open up the performance.
Yeah forgot about that, I'm running it at 1366x768.
 
It runs better than I expected on my system:

AMD Phenom II 1090T @ 3.2GHz
4GB DDR3 @ 1600
GTX260

Everything at max except for shadows (high) and I have applied almost everything mentioned in the OT and run this game at 40-60fps outside.
What I would like to try is the CSAA via NvidiaInspector but the game keeps crashing if I activate it while having 4xMSAA in the Skyrim settings and does not work at all if I put AA to off in the Skyrim settings. Is CSAA not available on my card or did I do something wrong?
 
electristan said:
Using TheOctagon's tweaks om a 5870 and i7920 @ 3.8 and it stays a 50-60 most places. playing it slow while waiting for the mods to pour in

Nice, you're on the same rig as me, same overclock too. I get similar FPS aswell, with it dipping from 60 to 45ish at certain parts.
 
LiquidMetal14 said:
Try editing in Skyrim.ini to the following - fdefaultfov=80 (work your way up to gauge your own interest). Intervals of 10.

Tried this prior to console editing actually, no degree of .ini FOV tweaking ever actually worked for me. Very odd. I'm going to revert to a prior save, see if that's fine. Again, I hadn't changed a thing, so I really don't understand why my FOV defaults like this. It genuinely hurts my eyes after twenty or so minutes so I really hope this works :/
 
My specs:
I7-930 stock settings
4gb ram
1gb gtx 460 with stock settings
Getting solid 60 fps for the most part (drops to 40ish are the lowest it's been). The only graphics problem I had was when I first launched the game the sky would flicker like crazy. Saved and got the latest drivers and the games been smooth since.

EDIT: Forgot to mention that I'm playing on high and not ultra.

Kuro Madoushi said:
Had 3 of them already.

Autosave saved me.

Usually happen around transitions (fast travel and loading areas)

Yeah it happened me once or twice, but its usually more random (both times I was just walking around in the wilderness)
 
EternalGamer said:
Can anyone suggest a way to map quick save F5 to a 360 controller?
You could try mapping joy2key and make a 1 binding profile. Not sure if that's the best method but it's the first thing that comes to mind.
 
Damn after using that OGSSAA guide my game looks beautiful but my fps averages 25 :( with frequent drops to 20

i5 @ 4.5
GTX 570

For those also using this what kind of computer do you have? Also does OGSSAA prevent programs like DXTORY from taking screenshots? It's not taking them I have to use prntscr. Do I just need to add another custom resolution if I want to drop it down to 1.25 or 1.5x?
 
Strange, suddenly (2 times in the last hour) my pc just switches to the desktop and the game's gone. Is this a common problem, or is there a known fix for that? No error message, nothing.
 
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