Cornballer
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The Expanse |S1| Ubiquitous. Mendacious. Polyglottal. Like a couple of donkey balls.
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the black pearl
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The first episode was really good. That rebel speech at the beginning was some shitty acting, though.
CopperPuppy
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Hoo-boy, episodes three and four were spectacular. Show is off to a great, great start.
Ratings do have me concerned, though... Was this expected?
Ratings do have me concerned, though... Was this expected?
muzzymate
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I sure hope they were expecting poor live numbers, after putting the first four episodes available almost immediately thru their streaming Syfy Now service.
Ep 4 just appeared via iTunes, and I'm sold on this so far. It's got the noir-ish street level cyberpunk story mixed with a space opera, and it's a combo that I didn't really know that I wanted. Glad I grabbed the seasons pass after hearing friends mention that they loved the books!
My body is ready for this.
Well, they did start the show right before the holiday break. They probably figured they would release the first four online, and then hope word-of-mouth and internet hype gets the episode five numbers to be higher.
They've already ordered Season 2 for the show. So they are giving it lots of runway to take off.
dead souls
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I've seen people posting this all over, but can anyone point to a piece confirming this?
All I've read is that they've given the go ahead for the writers to start working on scripts for S2, something that is very easy to back out of with a minimal financial loss if the ratings remain at the catastrophic level they are currently at.
No, but if you read this interview you can see the president has a very clear understanding that it wasn't going to be an overnight hit. I read as they are going to give it a fair chance to gather an audience. Maybe his definition of a fair chance is a whole season, but the way he talks, he seems to have learnt from the past of cancelling something before it's had a chance to be a hit. He's basically saying they are subscribing to the Netflix model of gaining an audience which requires more than one season.
http://variety.com/2015/tv/features...-childhoods-end-magicians-hunters-1201661266/
If they are writing it, and have most the sets built, costs for a second season won't be nearly as high as the first season. If it doesn't do well they may scale it back but I don't think it'd lose any of it's quality, just some major set piece eye candy. I'm overly optimistic about it though because for some weird reason I have faith they are actually trying to right their ship.
Interesting read for multiple reasons but they touch on that a lot.
gravitybear
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Just finished ep 4. Holy fuck are they nailing this. It's almost exactly as I imagined it when I read the books. So awesome.
Notes: Amos is shorter than I envisioned but the actor is doing an amazing job
Holden is younger than I imagined,and I was worried about the actor's ability to assume a command role, but he really made a great transition in ep 4.
Naomi, perfect.
Alex, younger (and thinner) but also really good.
The whole scene in the donnager was just amazing. So pumped this is getting done right.
edit: sorry kirblar. minor spoiler tagged (it's honestly not that much of a spoiler really, the character has already displayed the tendencies blanked out above)
Notes: Amos is shorter than I envisioned but the actor is doing an amazing job
playing as the psychopath using others for his moral guidance
Holden is younger than I imagined,and I was worried about the actor's ability to assume a command role, but he really made a great transition in ep 4.
Naomi, perfect.
Alex, younger (and thinner) but also really good.
The whole scene in the donnager was just amazing. So pumped this is getting done right.
edit: sorry kirblar. minor spoiler tagged (it's honestly not that much of a spoiler really, the character has already displayed the tendencies blanked out above)
Moff
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I'm surprised and a bit disappointed that they apparently make 2 seasons out of the first book.
but I expect they don't to that for every book. they will probably mix up a lot and add a new stuff like in the later seasons of game of thrones.
can't wait for the next episode, thoug. the first 4 left a really good impression.
but I expect they don't to that for every book. they will probably mix up a lot and add a new stuff like in the later seasons of game of thrones.
can't wait for the next episode, thoug. the first 4 left a really good impression.
Dandy Lyin
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I'm really enjoying it so far. My expectations for SyFy have been fairly low, so it's a nice surprise.
obin_gam
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Ingueferroque
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Why can't this be more popular? 8 pages?
They are in heavy restructuring phase. They somehow got the idea that ratings will come if they invest more in good shows.
Defiance is sadly done [but it ended very well], 13 Monkeys is intriguing, and their future offering looks to be very solid.
Dark Matter is more procedural, with each episode almost having a contained story [some few things carry on]. I found it good [after first few rougher episodes], but not amazing.
The Expanse on the other hand is fully serialized. Each episode is essential for storytelling, pace is nice and fast. It is a very good adaptation of a awesome space opera book [set in almost hard-SF universe].
The Expanse on the other hand is fully serialized. Each episode is essential for storytelling, pace is nice and fast. It is a very good adaptation of a awesome space opera book [set in almost hard-SF universe].
GavinUK86
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It feels like it was so long ago since I last posted in this thread after watching the first four episodes back to back.
I'm looking forward to discussing the rest week by week now.
As most people have already said, the shows looking really good so far.
Hopefully it keeps up the pace.
Interested to see what they're doing with Havelock.
I'm looking forward to discussing the rest week by week now.
As most people have already said, the shows looking really good so far.
Hopefully it keeps up the pace.
Interested to see what they're doing with Havelock.
We are in a really weird state. The majority of us have read the books so there is nothing to speculate on and I think non-book readers are less active due to all our book discussion. That and the first 4 episodes releasing at once, people kind of binged, gave their 2 cents and have moved on until episode 5.
I'd be happy to discuss the first 4 episodes if people wanted to! A Forbes blogger has been writing some articles about the physics of the show and how well they are doing it. So far they've been nailing that.
Here's a fun one about stealth in space: "The Expanse and the Physics of Stealth In Space"
People have been happy with the hard science aspect of the show, minus water being rare and spinning up an asteroid like Ceres would destroy it. Get past those big leaps and it's pretty spot on.
Wow! Thanks for sharing, that's fantastic news. Increasing the episode count from 10 to 13 is very encouraging.
1.6 mil P2+ viewers is pretty good? I don't know anything about ratings.
Also might be worth making a separate thread for that? A lot of people afraid to try the show out because of fear of cancellation. Might encourage more to try it out.
Edit: 2017 though ): Hopefully that's just early 2017.
Go for it
Cornballer
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Eh, not really new thread worthy imo. Lemme doctor the title in a sec.
Sure! Feel free to make the whole title a little more descriptive if you think it'll help.
Cornballer
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I took a quick crack at it, but I have to head out the door now. Feel free to PM me other suggestions or post them in the thread.
Moff
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Nemesis Games spoiler:
I don't know if it was mentioned in any books before but in the fifth book, which focuses a lot more on the main characters, it's made clear that Amos has no moral compass at all, he can't help it and realizes that. instead he watches the others and tries to imitate them
Huh, I don't believe this was ever mentioned or implied in the first book.
This pretty much confirms it is a huge streaming succes, great to hear we will get more.
And for those that are not looking forward to the big break, there is always the new book coming out this spring. Hope it follows the book 5 format and keeps the story centralized on the crew.
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Edit: also, might be worth namedropping this as the spiritual succesor to BSG in the title, as namedropping just SyFy isn't exactly inspiring any confidence in production value nowadays.
Same here. Always pictured him as a Michael Clarke Duncan type dude. Huge guy with a heart of gold. The actor's doing a good job, but he's not quite big enough IMO.
I think the passage you're thinking of is in Abaddon's Gate, btw. I had the exact same "what, are you serious?" reaction and I haven't read further than AG.
I really don't want to pull some annoyingly coy, wink/nudge half-spoiler here, but people who haven't read the books should be careful about hyping this up as the new BSG. There's going to be...some stuff.
Hey everyone, just a reminder about book spoilers. This is nitpicking but by mentioning a character's personality/plot/existence in a later book in the series implies survival. This can remove suspense from a situation where they are in danger, especially in a show where they have no problem killing people off. The TV Show may deviate but some of us are still working through the books as well. You don't have to explicitly say something to still create a spoiler.
Just tread carefully and tag everything after a book mention in a spoiler.
Just tread carefully and tag everything after a book mention in a spoiler.
It doesn't matter, all it means is that it's a well written, well produced space opera and gets people to tune in. This is no Warehouse 13 or Haven.
foomfoom415
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Book spoilers through Nemesis Games
It was definitely suggested from early on, and mentioned pretty explicitly in both The Churn and Cibola Burn. I don't remember any earlier specific examples, but I remember it not being a surprise so it was likely established earlier.
He's my favorite character out of the Roci crew, haha.. /o\
Books spoiler:
Yeah I can't say I was surprised when I found out. Still not something that should be openly talked about when we're only 4 episodes into the first season though. lol
Dude is loyal as fuck and good in a fight, I'd say he would be my absolute first pick to watch mine.