Alien Soldier, Bio Miracle Bokutte Upa, Castlevania: Rondo of Blood, Cho Aniki, DoReMi Fantasy: Milon's DokiDoki Adventure, Final Soldier, Gley Lancer, Ironclad, Monster World IV, Ninja JaJaMaru-kun, Pulseman, Sin & Punishment, Star Parodier, and several other games that had releases in Europe but never in North America.
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The Final Bosman Show
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Alien Soldier, Bio Miracle Bokutte Upa, Castlevania: Rondo of Blood, Cho Aniki, DoReMi Fantasy: Milon's DokiDoki Adventure, Final Soldier, Gley Lancer, Ironclad, Monster World IV, Ninja JaJaMaru-kun, Pulseman, Sin & Punishment, Star Parodier, and several other games that had releases in Europe but never in North America.
A Human Becoming
More than a Member
Weak episode. No BOTB was disappointing, even if it didn't fit with the topic. Also, I thought it would be a Wii U that popped up at the end.
I know these games were released in the US without having to look them up.
Pie and Beans
Look for me on the local news, I'll be the guy arrested for trying to burn down a Nintendo exec's house.
Equating complete inaction on Nintendo's part to advertise with an "app market style approach" and thus Nintendo evolving is such false equivalence this is the first time Bosman has started to seem a little dumb.
Also a shame he can't grasp both ends of the "generation" terminology stick. WiiU is part of this upcoming "next generation" of consoles, but it belongs to the last generation of power and hardware target-space.
Also the weird congrats on answering hundreds of thousands of people begging you to release a ROM that they promptly charge $10 for is some stockholm syndrome shit. You begged to buy something and they let you. Break out the balloons and banners. In comparison: Region Free campaign. Waa waa.
Felt like a bit too much of a Defence Force episode really.
Also a shame he can't grasp both ends of the "generation" terminology stick. WiiU is part of this upcoming "next generation" of consoles, but it belongs to the last generation of power and hardware target-space.
Also the weird congrats on answering hundreds of thousands of people begging you to release a ROM that they promptly charge $10 for is some stockholm syndrome shit. You begged to buy something and they let you. Break out the balloons and banners. In comparison: Region Free campaign. Waa waa.
Felt like a bit too much of a Defence Force episode really.
he grasps it just fine
he's just correct in saying that people are using the term wrong. WiiU is a next-generation console. Period. It's a relatively underpowered one, sure, but it is what it is.
There's nothing wrong with releasing a "ROM" for $10 unless you're operating under the false assumption that ROMs should be near-free because they're easily pirated. That's what's really behind all this "it's just a ROM dump lol" nonsense.
Fantastic! Nintendo really are creating their own 'stream' of news while opening methods for fans to communicate their hopes and dreams back to them.
And I love how he cleared up the terminology of 'the next gen' era. It's a passage of time guys! Not poly count or frames per second!
And I love how he cleared up the terminology of 'the next gen' era. It's a passage of time guys! Not poly count or frames per second!
Pie and Beans
Look for me on the local news, I'll be the guy arrested for trying to burn down a Nintendo exec's house.
Not saying ROMs should be free, but I think we can all agree $10 is a bit steep when seemingly no extra work or futzing around with it has occured to justify it. Good business to charge $10 to that dying desert population, but lets not plop it in some "Nintendo is the best uncle" column.
And the word generation just has too many uses and meanings to break out the stick and whack the other side of the debate. Sure, you can argue which is the most popular use of the term with regards to game consoles, but that doesn't make the other usage wrong.
And the word generation just has too many uses and meanings to break out the stick and whack the other side of the debate. Sure, you can argue which is the most popular use of the term with regards to game consoles, but that doesn't make the other usage wrong.
Devilgunman
Member
Yep. Wii Virtual Console is pure gold but I don't like purchasing any digital game on Nintendo consoles.
Yeah it's silly. Different people commonly use the term to convey different meanings, I thought people were over that. Obviously not. Thanks, Bosman, for rekindling public interest in a trite, boring, shitty semantics debate.
That was one furiously tepid episode. Hope it's not a sign of things to come and he can go back to being funny and interesting every now and then.
Also, "gammar noobs" or did I hear that right? Is he feeling ok?
RobFox64tm
Member
This post seriously seems like you had your fingers in your ears, yelling "I'm not hearing this! I'm not hearing this!" during the entire episode. He had very sound reasoning for his arguments, and to call him "dumb" just because you may not agree with them, quite frankly, makes you sound likewise. Before you go off and accuse me as being some Nintendo defense force drone, you should know I'm not defending them as much as I am Kyle Bossman. He's a much more level headed reporter of video game news than most I see, and because of that, he may give Nintendo props when they are due. It doesn't mean he has a pro Nintendo agenda as you are suggesting, but rather that he feels they should just be treated fairly.
SaintMadeOfPlaster
Member
"I hate Nintendo and therefore it seems Bosman is starting to look dumb."
He grasped it just fine. He clearly explains why one definition makes sense and the other doesn't.
RiccochetJ
Gold Member
I swear to god Gametrailers...
If you keep on making my videos pause while you load up another ad, I'm going to install adblock and only block you.
Fix that shit.
If you keep on making my videos pause while you load up another ad, I'm going to install adblock and only block you.
Fix that shit.
almost missed last weeks show, and I think its because it was terrible.
I like how he says this is the first gen we used hard drives to download dlc. Neither wii or wii u have hard drives to speak of. If you have a basic wii u model, you basically have an xbox 360, with no hard drive but with 8gb of flash instead of 4gb (on the cheapest 360 sku). It is very directly current gen, not next gen.
not to mention the part where the statement is not true, ps2 had socom 2 maps availible for the 40gb ide hard drive, and ff11 is still going.
forgot about the xbox og dlc too.
I like how he says this is the first gen we used hard drives to download dlc. Neither wii or wii u have hard drives to speak of. If you have a basic wii u model, you basically have an xbox 360, with no hard drive but with 8gb of flash instead of 4gb (on the cheapest 360 sku). It is very directly current gen, not next gen.
not to mention the part where the statement is not true, ps2 had socom 2 maps availible for the 40gb ide hard drive, and ff11 is still going.
forgot about the xbox og dlc too.
It's almost like you missed the point of his video or something. Uncanny.
the point didn't seem to resonate with many other people, or I would have seen the video sooner.
That's the thing though. It's not a subjective point. A "generation" is a group of things in the same time period. It's nothing to do with whether you subjectively consider that a console has advanced technologically enough over its predecessors to be worthy of being called a new generation. It's simply what the word means.
AlphaTwo00
Member
I don't know why no one brings this up, but the entire "generation" debate using horsepower and specs would be completely blown to bits if you look at handheld systems. But of course, console warriors only care about home consoles.
You could just know that the new videos are always uploaded on Wednesday (today) and not worry about seeing the videos later than others.
A barely adopted accessory and one games with DLC does not devalue his point. This is the first gen where that was standard behaviour. And wiiU you can attach a USB HDD to trivially easily, and most (all?) games are available digitally day one
IrishNinja
Member
aw man why people gotta bitch about earthbound in here too
The Dutch Slayer
Member
I loled HARD at the NEXT GEN part hahahahhahaah well done 
Messofanego
Banned
Why does this guy look like he's about to cry or have a mental breakdown any second now?
InfiniteNine
Rolling Girl
I'll stop when I can play it on my 3DS.
Words don't work that way. They mean whatever the majority accepts that they mean. A 'AAA' game originally only referenced the budget spent on it, but that definition has expanded to encompass things like scope and quality. Console generations made have been linked to time of release, but that's now how they're judged by the majority in the here and now. The Wii U is not a contemporary of the PS4 and XB1, any more than the Dreamcast was a contemporary of the PS2.
ElectricKaibutsu
Member
People don't consider the Dreamcast a contemporary of the PS2?
We have new mainline hardware at roughly the same time from all three hardware manufacturers. How can it not be clear that we have a new generation going on? That they're not equal in specs is besides the point. I agree that words mean what the majority think it means but we don't know if a majority of gamers think less of the WiiU.
rohlfinator
Member
Well, if you lump in mobile and PC, the time-based definition completely breaks down too. Either way the term is pretty arbitrary.
Nice euphemism. It's not that they're "not equal." One in three has performance on par with consoles that came out 7 years ago. That's what people are calling a generational gap.
Well yes I understand that
It's just that new hardware has always meant a new generation, well basically anyway, I'm not too up to speed on the Gen 1 and 2 stuff. New hardware with so little extra juice is pretty unprecedented. It's just that we're so accustomed to new hardware equaling muuuuch better performance. I just don't agree with WiiU being its own off-shoot generation or a part of the previous one. It would be one thing if the specs were virtually identically like the DS and DS XL. But DS and 3DS are also relatively similar and there's no doubt there as far as I know. For me at least, new hardware means a new generation due to new experiences that are just not possible on previous hardware.It depends on how you look at this matter. Kinda like JRPGs as a matter of origin, vs JRPG as a matter of gamedesign / style / elements.
WII U is "the next generation" NINTENDO console and will be compared to the next gen consoles of Sony and Microsoft.
However, if you compare them in terms of power, WII U is NOT "next gen", since it's a generation behind in that regard.
WII U is "the next generation" NINTENDO console and will be compared to the next gen consoles of Sony and Microsoft.
However, if you compare them in terms of power, WII U is NOT "next gen", since it's a generation behind in that regard.
krypt0nian
Banned
Exactly.
Shadow Hog
Member
Yeah, seriously. Incredibly bad analogy. At the time they were both active consoles, the games available looked just as good as one another; PS2 looking better here and there, Dreamcast looking better here and there. Dreamcast was very solidly in the same generation, in every meaning of the word.
THQ RIPGame he's playing is
Pimp My Ride (Xbox 360)
I actually knew about that game. :/
Rating:
4.1
Shadow Hog
Member
Okay, their shelves have black DVD cases (PS2/GC), white DVD cases (Wii), green DVD cases (Xbox/360), cyan-ish DVD cases (Wii U) and dark blue DVD cases. I... don't know what console had dark blue DVD cases. Are those PS Vita boxes (in which case, they're not really DVD cases - smaller than that - but just roll w/ it)?
Bloodworth
Member
I think what you're looking at are the purple boxes for the Kinect games.
Ultimadrago
Member
"Pimp City is a strange town."
Haha. Seeing Kyle play and react to Pimp My Ride can only put a smile on my face.
Haha. Seeing Kyle play and react to Pimp My Ride can only put a smile on my face.
NowCutThatOut
Member
Aw, I randomly bought 'Double Switch' this week and was hoping he was going to look at that. Cruel bait and switch there.