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[Neoxon]

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The point is that there's no need to give Captain Cold powers with Killer Frost coming. At least Reverse Flash has to have the Speed Force like Barry does.

 

[Joni]

That was a very funny episode, I liked the banter between Captain Cold and Heatwave and Barry moving back in with Joe.

 

[Rhaknar]

Thread title needs to change from "go" to "come" judging from that french mural thread

 

[Mario007]

I love Eddie's scenes with Joe when they talk about Iris. Eddie being all like "you can visit anytime" was hillarious.

 

[Jonogunn]

so flash is able to run right between them but doesn't throw a punch?

 

[Maximo]

so flash is able to run right between them but doesn't throw a punch?

Or steal there guns, at least it was really enjoyable I'm willing to let details like that flash by.

 

[Delta Assault]

so flash is able to run right between them but doesn't throw a punch?

Yeah, I was wondering about that too. Seemed like running at them and punching their guns away would've been more efficient than getting hit and tanking both ice and fire.

 

[Miles Quaritch]

Yeah, I was wondering about that too. Seemed like running at them and punching their guns away would've been more efficient than getting hit and tanking both ice and fire.

I saw it as him pushing himself so he's ready for the next Reverse Flash fight.

Taking hits and improving his general stamina/durability.

 

[Subpar Spatula]

I saw it as him pushing himself so he's ready for the next Reverse Flash fight.

Taking hits and improving his general stamina/durability.

He's given disadvantages that make no sense because of episode demand. They don't have the time to plan out encounters that make sense. Wells has the absolute right idea about speed. That's all that matters. How you move and control yourself at that speed is what matters. Durability, strength, etc. mean nothing. Outspeed your opponent at Flash levels and nothing in existence has the reaction time to counter you. It's game over before they move their arm to unholster their guns.

 

[Shy]

loved the latest episode.

god this show is just so fun, and it isn't ashamed about it either.
loved captain cold and the flame dude. ( blanking on his name at the mo. sorry. )
wish joe was my dad. THEY BETTER NOT KILL HIM OFF.

bring on next week.

also i just want to say how happy i am i can finally talk about this and arrow with gaf, instead of just lurking and lol'ing at all the jokes.

 

[Tizoc]

Thread title needs to change from "go" to "come" judging from that french mural thread

Season 2's subtitle should be a reference to the comics 'The fastest man alive'.

Need to watch this new ep. from what I see here we're likely to see The Atom?

 

[Skux]

 

[J10]

They do a moment like this very well, but then they follow it up with the idiotic Cold and Heatwave battle.

 

[ZeroX03]

You guys are gonna have to get used to goofy Rogues fights. They're a staple of the comics and animation. It'll get better when he starts talking some Wally style smack instead of being super serious but they're pretty often just stylish filler. He'll have to be written dumb when fighting them. Even if they aren't supposed to be the biggest threat.

 

[Wiktor]

Before they crossed? Half of his body should've shattered and the other half should've vaporized. ..

I must rewatch it, but didn't he go fast? Not his max (as he slowed down to get hit), but still a lot faster than human?
I mean..my friend at university loves to put his hand into liquid nitrogen as trick to scare his students. And nothing happens becaue he does it fast and the difference in temperatures is so huge, that for a short moment it creates a barrier from cold.
Bassicaly both cold and heat need time to cause damage. Especially throuh protective suit.

 

[Volotaire]

This episode was Prison Break 2.0. Wentworth Miller having the cunnings and constructing intricate plan of the 'genius', whereas Domicinic Purcell continued to characterise as the man with strength who uses his fists to get through problems. Moreover, the pair off to county jail in the back of the truck only to be saved by a few insurgents made it complete. I couldn't get past their subpar acting (especially Domicinic Purcell) but it was a fun episode.

 

[J10]

That voice Miller was doing made me laugh. All he was missing was the twirled mustache.

 

[Drunken Master]

I love Eddie's scenes with Joe when they talk about Iris. Eddie being all like "you can visit anytime" was hillarious.

Joe's stare was the best when Eddie said he should give them a head start before he visits them

 

[CBTech]

Not a bad episode but I was disappointed by Dominic Purcell. For all the chewing of the scenery he was doing, his character didn't make much of an impression. At least Captain Cold had some decent one-liners. Neither of them are particularly intimidating and it'll be interesting to see how they can be fleshed out to be threats without their fancy guns.

The best scene in the episode was Barry and Joe at the end. Wonderful unforced chemistry there.

Nah, they'll have their guns back next time. As they mentioned in the episode, Captain Cold and Heatwave have memorized everything about the guns so they can probably rebuild them from scratch on their own.

 

[SniperHunter]

If that's the case, then don't watch Agents of Shield, or Agent Carter. Unless you want to be put in a coma.

I actually like those shows, especially Agent Carter.

 

[Jest Chillin]

I was expecting that crossing the streams would've caused some sort of feedback that would give them their powers straight up. But I guess we'll have to wait for that Firestorm acronym stuff to play out first.

 

[GungHo]

Enjoyable episode, but if Cold is such a planner he would tell Heatwave the plan before they execute him. I hate it, when people break in somewhere and just then starting to ask what they're actually doing. I mean, there is absolutely no reason other than exposition dump to not tell Heatwave what the plan is. Same with the escape at the end. Why not tell him beforehand?

I did find it amusing that this is exactly what their characters did on Prison Break. The whole damn show was fan service. The most inane shit would happen, clearly nothing anyone could plan for, and Wentworth Miller would have that same shit eating grin and say, "it's all part of the plan".

 

[Kiriku]

This episode was Prison Break 2.0. Wentworth Miller having the cunnings and constructing intricate plan of the 'genius', whereas Domicinic Purcell continued to characterise as the man with strength who uses his fists to get through problems. Moreover, the pair off to county jail in the back of the truck only to be saved by a few insurgents made it complete. I couldn't get past their subpar acting (especially Domicinic Purcell) but it was a fun episode.

Yeah, I really try hard to look past the lines and acting for the characters played by Miller and Purcell... but it's just so cringe-inducing at times, both what they say and how they say it (including their voices). And all that grunting by Purcell. lol
Probably doesn't help that I'm just thinking back to Prison Break and what they 'usually' sound like. I understand Flash is going for that over-the-top comic book stuff, but some characters work better than others.
Still, I enjoy the series.

 

[L00P]

Wow what is up the Prison Break invasion in this show

 

[DieH@rd]

Wow what is up the Prison Break invasion in this show

Showrunners obviously like actors from Spartacus and Prison Break.

 

[scabro]

Even Flash's powers aside, you'd think some snipers or something could have taken them out while they were flailing their guns around trying to get Barry.

But whatever that's the type of thing that's unavoidable with this type of show.

Still a fun watch. Even at its worst i find it way more watchable than Arrow.

 

[Jest Chillin]

Even Flash's powers aside, you'd think some snipers or something could have taken them out while they were flailing their guns around trying to get Barry.

But whatever that's the type of thing that's unavoidable with this type of show.

Still a fun watch. Even at its worst i find it way more watchable than Arrow.

They could've avoided it by not having Cold broadcast the meeting place to the world then having the police force respond to the reports of the fight after it started.

Then you could at least use the excuse that the Police didn't have time to set up and take a shot before it was over.

 

[Freshmaker]

I must rewatch it, but didn't he go fast? Not his max (as he slowed down to get hit), but still a lot faster than human?
I mean..my friend at university loves to put his hand into liquid nitrogen as trick to scare his students. And nothing happens becaue he does it fast and the difference in temperatures is so huge, that for a short moment it creates a barrier from cold.
Bassicaly both cold and heat need time to cause damage. Especially throuh protective suit.

I don't think the Lidenfrost effect is enough to explain how Flash didn't die.

He was getting hit by an absolute zero gun and a gun that generated planck temperature. Either gun should've killed him instantly.

 

[More_Badass]

I don't think the Lidenfrost effect is enough to explain how Flash didn't die.

He was getting hit by an absolute zero gun and a gun that generated planck temperature. Either gun should've killed him instantly.

I was expecting him to realize he could vibrate and let the beams pass through him, thus meeting in a crossfire.

 

[pulga]

You guys are gonna have to get used to goofy Rogues fights. They're a staple of the comics and animation. It'll get better when he starts talking some Wally style smack instead of being super serious but they're pretty often just stylish filler. He'll have to be written dumb when fighting them. Even if they aren't supposed to be the biggest threat.

Just re-write their fucking DNA soon pls ;_;

Or get something like this going on:

Flash not taking their guns away straight up is unacceptable.

 

[Delta Assault]

I was expecting him to realize he could vibrate and let the beams pass through him, thus meeting in a crossfire.

Vibration has always been a pretty advanced Flash ability. I wouldn't expect this Barry to learn that until season 2 or 3.

 

[ReiGun]

The main threat of the Rogues is their numbers and collective intelligence. Plus they're more experienced at fighting speedsters than just about anyone.

Of course, it's impossible to get this across when there's only two of them and they haven't had that many encounters with the Flash.

 

[morningbus]

Hey guys, just got back from the future and in the Supergirl OT we're complaining about her not throwing everything into the sun.

 

[ZeroX03]

Just re-write their fucking DNA soon pls ;_;

Fuck no, get the shitty New 52 versions out of here.

The Rogues don't have to be the biggest threats around. The enormous power gap is part of the dynamic. If you want enemies on Flash's level then Killer Frost will be around soon. Grodd, Reverse Flash, Zoom, other Firestorm enemies too.

The big team ups will be fun like they're supposed to be.

 

[Delta Assault]

Oh, I just want to say... it seems like they're building Eddie up into a Hunter Zolomon-in-all-but-name. With this new episode, you can definitely see that they want to portray Eddie as a friend of The Flash, just like how Hunter was before he got crippled in the comics.

 

[Error]

Could happen specially with Grodd all but confirmed for later seasons.

 

[ZeroX03]

Could happen specially with Grodd all but confirmed for later seasons.

There's more of Grodd coming later this season.

I suspect it might be a Slade style thing where they build him up over time. He gets stronger and more intelligent. He's big bad tier.

 

[The Silver]

Fuck no, get the shitty New 52 versions out of here.

The Rogues don't have to be the biggest threats around. The enormous power gap is part of the dynamic. If you want enemies on Flash's level then Killer Frost will be around soon. Grodd, Reverse Flash, Zoom, other Firestorm enemies too.

The big team ups will be fun like they're supposed to be.

sorry I'll have to agree with the others, that shit might work in comics but my suspension of disbelief can only stretch so far in live action. Knowing what the Flash can do this fight just looked completely ridiculous and had me rolling my eyes the entire time.

Maybe it'll work a lot better when they have more rogues so they can create more elaborate plans but this fight really crossed that fine line from fun and silly to "rolling eyes" dumb.


and one last unrelated thing, they can't kill Joe, the man is the heart and soul of this show I tell ya.

 

[Delta Assault]

Yeah... Barry hanging out with Joe at the end of an episode is kinda like the reward we get for putting up with all the Iris bullshit earlier in the episodes.

 

[HamPster PamPster]

Anyone who thinks Joe will die is going on ignore. Not reading that nonsense in my Flash thread! Joe is a survivor!

 

[sarcastor]

sorry I'll have to agree with the others, that shit might work in comics but my suspension of disbelief can only stretch so far in live action. Knowing what the Flash can do this fight just looked completely ridiculous and had me rolling my eyes the entire time.

Seriously, there are two dudes with short range weapons. And a bunch of cops standing there watching them with high powered rifles. And a superhero that can run several times the speed of sound. And his only solution is to get burned/frozen? Not take the guns from them, or punch them into next week, or even pull their pants down so they have to drop their guns to put their pants back on?

Even Robin could have taken out the baddies with a well placed batarang.

 

[Net_Wrecker]

The Captain Cold and Heat Wave dialogue is sharp cheddar, good lord I love it. Everything they say is hilarious.

CW presents The Flash pls stahp ur hurting me

 

[Neoxon]

Anyone who thinks Joe will die is going on ignore. Not reading that nonsense in my Flash thread! Joe is a survivor!

Joe is immortal!

 

[evil solrac v3.0]

Finally watched an episode last night, and I really thought it was the most ridiculous thing I've seen outside of reality TV.

So this Cold guy and Fire guy are just marching down an empty street with their heat/cold guns, while the police just sit back in the distance and do absolutely nothing. So it's up to the Flash to take these guys out, and...do these guys have super speed themselves? Because as super fast as Flash is made out to be, he could've just flew up and knocked the shit out of both of them when they were busy flapping their yaps. How could they even have time to pull the triggers of these weapons if Flash is so super fast?

I'll have to try and catch an episode of Gotham. Hopefully it's not as lame as Flash.

The episode was okay with a few strong moments, but honestly, I didn't like Cold and Heatwave. Miller and Purcell obviously have lots of chemistry and charisma, but the over-the-top cartoony villainy felt like a departure this show didn't need. Yes, this is a comic book adaptation, and yes it's not supposed to be realistic, but what I found praiseworthy about this show, prior to this episode, was that it made an admirable and somewhat successful attempt at remaining grounded in realism. The metahumans were all pretty human, realistic to a considerable degree with their conduct and ambitions. Cold was like a cooler Clock King; prices, meticulous, focused. This episode, and I realise getting captured was apparently a part of the plan or at the very least he had a contingency in place, felt like a completely different depiction of that character.

Also, idc this is a show about The Flash. The show runners gotta make at least an effort in not leaving major gaps. Cold and Heatwave are humans, they're susceptible to bullets. Without any hostages, why the fuck didn't the police open fire? Makes no sense. I can only suspend my disbelief so much.

That part I was laughing at. All of the cops just staring at the backs of these two enemies causing a rampage throughout the city. How easy would it have been to just shoot them?

Seriously, there are two dudes with short range weapons. And a bunch of cops standing there watching them with high powered rifles. And a superhero that can run several times the speed of sound. And his only solution is to get burned/frozen? Not take the guns from them, or punch them into next week, or even pull their pants down so they have to drop their guns to put their pants back on?

Even Robin could have taken out the baddies with a well placed batarang.

they couldn't take out the rogues until they found the location of Caitlyn.

 

[Admiral Woofington]

they couldn't take out the rogues until they found the location of Caitlyn.

I guess if that's what the chief said. I might have missed the part they made it clear that's why

 

[abundant]

I guess if that's what the chief said. I might have missed the part they made it clear that's why

He didn't have to say anything. They already knew that 1) Captain Cold and Heat Wave had a hostage and 2) they've been known to work with others, so the cops had no way of knowing if there were other people involved or not.

 

[neorej]

God i Love captain cold's hamness, and now they've found his prison break brother to turn it up to eleven. The parka, the one liners, if they threw in more cheese I swear I would think this show is Dutch.

 

[pulga]

they couldn't take out the rogues until they found the location of Caitlyn.

That's why I suggested snipers should've blown their kneecaps off.

 

[DieH@rd]

God i Love captain cold's hamness, and now they've found his prison break brother to turn it up to eleven. The parka, the one liners, if they threw in more cheese I swear I would think this show is Dutch.

His "911" line was really delivered well.

 

[unholyrevenger72]

Cold and Heatwave are humans, they're susceptible to bullets. Without any hostages, why the fuck didn't the police open fire? Makes no sense.

It totally makes sense Police only open fire on Minorities.