The Flash |OT| Gotta Go Fast - Tuesdays 8/7c
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Sho_Nuff82
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They need to bring back GOAT Grodd voice, Powers Booth. His smug level was off the charts. Would be a great callback next to Clancy Brown.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xVVyuU3A4_Q
I don't think you actually watched the video did you?
EDIT: Oh thank god the music stops
Keep the theories coming, guys. It's probably the best thing about this thread. Much as I enjoy the mystery, I do hope it's resolved in the first season.
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Sho_Nuff82
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Yeah, the video intro and outro are annoying, but some choice quotes are sprinkled in there.
Flash has been excellent but Season 2 of Arrow is god-tier TV.
BKatastrophe
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Cisco will figure it out first. Barry won't have to phase.
I would have loved it more if they had J.K. Simmons playing Eiling. Then it would have been a true call back. I do like me some Clancy Brown, though. So it's acceptable.
S2 of Arrow has a character arc in it that in no way makes sense. As far as I'm concerned, that's not god-tier TV. No matter how hype Slade is.
which arc?
BKatastrophe
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Laurel's. Her going after the Arrow made no sense to me. Unless I missed something, she had no real reason to. You could say she was being super irrational, being wracked with guilt, and then decided to blame the Arrow to feel better, which is technically what it is to some degree. The reason I say it doesn't make sense because I'm not sure how she drew the connection to begin with. She's somewhat of an ally for S1 and then decides he's the enemy in S2? It doesn't make sense to me why she would blame everyone else for her problems.
Granted, I'm okay with characters who go through arcs that make them seem like terrible or unlikable people (which she does), but only if they seem to make sense or seem, for lack of a better word, "logical." Laurel's didn't seem that way at the start, and she never redeems herself to me during that season. She finds out Oliver's the Arrow and then decides she can now call the shots, apparently. Despite spending a season trying to arrest him and being nothing but antagonistic to, not only him as the Arrow, but simply just Oliver as well.
So, let's say her arc does make sense in a (once again for lack of a better term) "logical" fashion, it makes her horridly unlikable and she doesn't redeem herself until about halfway through S3 (so right now). I don't think that's a good seasonal character arc in any sense, really.
It makes pretty damn good sense. Her boyfriend died and in the process of grieving blamed it on the one person she had trusted to keep the people of the city safe. In her grief she gets into substance abuse to deal with the pain.
It's not logical because it's human. People in grief don't do logical shit.
BKatastrophe
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I know it's not logical. That's why I put it in quotes. Like I said, even if it does make sense, she doesn't redeem herself in my eyes. Not during that season.
Laurels wasn't too bad for me because people who are grieving act irrationally. The mayor Moira story on the other hand made no sense at all.
Chase Lebowski
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No... Just.. No.
Poodlestrike
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Nobody with a Black Beetle avatar should have an opinion that bad.
BKatastrophe
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You aren't wrong.
More like The Flash > Arrow S2 > Arrow S1 > Arrow S3.
Hiro_Kunimi_80
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the moreFlash I watch the more I dislike Arrow. One isnt afraid to go full comic-crazy, the other keeps trying to be "realistic" even tho that shit should have been trown out the window the second the flash universe was introduced.
Ollie surviving the death with no supernatural explanation was the moment the show jumped the shark imo (Ill still watch it of course)
Ollie surviving the death with no supernatural explanation was the moment the show jumped the shark imo (Ill still watch it of course)
I think that'll be explained by the end of the season. My theory is that they haven't explained how he was brought back, because he already knows how (possibly by dying during the flashbacks).
It was good at most. I believe that it can't even touch true tv gods.
Freewheelin'
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Yeah I'm not enjoying s3 of Arrow as much as I did in S2. It's pretty boring so far, other than Ra's.
I do find it hilarious that Cisco or Catlin haven't found out about Wells's secret room hahaha. Like they could easily just follow Wells to wherever the secret room is and then hide.
Or just look up some blueprints for the labs, lol. But Wells is probably too smart for that
I do find it hilarious that Cisco or Catlin haven't found out about Wells's secret room hahaha. Like they could easily just follow Wells to wherever the secret room is and then hide.
Or just look up some blueprints for the labs, lol. But Wells is probably too smart for that
Outtrigger888
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http://m.neogaf.com/showpost.php?p=149649317
Called it last month that wells is future Barry. My post went unnoticed.
Called it last month that wells is future Barry. My post went unnoticed.
People have been calling it since October.
BlackGhost
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Flash s1 so much better then arrow s1. S2 of or arrow was amazing with slade, and flash s1 has been better then arrow s3 so far. Flash s1 gives me so much hope for the future of the series.
Makes no sense for him to be future barry ... or else the sample would fit barry AND wells
HeartlessNobody213
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Flash shits all over Arrow except for Manu da gawd Bennett's portrayal of Slade. Season 2 of Arrow was good but damn I just enjoy the Flash so much more, especially with how little I'm enjoying season 3 of Arrow, I even prefer Gotham over it tbh.
I'm the same way. I just go for the ride and enjoy myself. This is a golden age of live action comic book TV shows and I'm not taking them for granted.
Jables Swan
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For me Arrow was only as good when Slade was good. Arrow S1 was was better in the second half of the year and then season 2 was great fun. If you took Slade out, then the show would have struggled for mine. S3 has been god awful.
Flash on the other hand has been a blast the whole time. The overarching mystery of Wells has just added to the fun. Iris is in danger of being a pointless character ala Laurel though. If she isn't already there.
As far as the Wells mystery goes, I hope they explain it before the end of S1. I would like to think he was Barry of the future but the post pointing out that his computer calls him Wells sort of made me think otherwise. The blood sample could easily be a fake if he was Barry though.
Flash on the other hand has been a blast the whole time. The overarching mystery of Wells has just added to the fun. Iris is in danger of being a pointless character ala Laurel though. If she isn't already there.
As far as the Wells mystery goes, I hope they explain it before the end of S1. I would like to think he was Barry of the future but the post pointing out that his computer calls him Wells sort of made me think otherwise. The blood sample could easily be a fake if he was Barry though.
Freshmaker
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There's no way he's Barry from the future. If that was the case, he would have vanished the instant that Barry got his powers leeched.
OdysseusVA
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Ah, that's your problem.
Jables Swan
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BKatastrophe
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I was watching the Flash Aftershow, and they received a tweet stating "What if Cisco hid that the other sample was Wells?"
It's an interesting thought. I doubt it, but it wouldn't surprise me. I do agree that I don't think Wells is Future Barry, though.
I probably phrased myself wrongly earlier. Nay, I did phrase myself wrong earlier. My point though, is that I didn't feel anything Laurel did was reasonable or justified, and she wasn't able to redeem herself in the end in my eyes.
That's the basic gist.
Barry got over it though. They literally said he "lost" his powers because he got the yips.
Freshmaker
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Wells checked the future papers. Flash didn't exist until he figured out how to repower Barry. If that was future Barry, he never would've gone back in time and Barry never would've gotten his powers.
Jest Chillin
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Time Travel is such a wonky premise though that they can do damn near anything and explain it away after the fact.
I still don't think Wells is Barry though.
BKatastrophe
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You're right. That did happen. I thought that occurred in a different episode for some reason.
Wiktor
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I doubt he's Barry, but this isn't proper explanation why he isn't. In many time travel stories this doesn't happen. The changes you make in modern world ripple towards the future, but change only happens in that future. Time traveler from the future that exist in the modern world would be protected from that. The world he camed from would no longer exist, but he would. This method allows you to avoid paradoxes.
Freshmaker
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The way the newspaper works, you get immediate cause and effect. No branching timelines etc.
But really Wells as Barry is just a dumb theory that needs to die. There's zero support for it.
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