BigJonsson
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So how did this origin story differ from the comics? And I assume Wells
planned for the accelerator to blow up and create superpowered people?
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In comics, there was no particle accelerator. Ordinary lightning struck Barry while he was mixing some random ingredients in a chemistry experiment [which was awesomely hinted in Arrow S2 when Barry visited Starling CIty
]. Combination of lightning and that experiment gave him access to the Speed Force. His mother dying by yellow speedster [Zoom] is also part of his [newer versions of] origin. Showrunners of this show are doing wonderful job so far. Accurate comic book origin, Barry is full-on superhero with suit from the start, Rogues and Zoom will be in early S1, intrigue around time travel and particle accelerator. Great stuff.
Amen.
Gifcam is really easy to use
NotTheGuyYouKill
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In comics, there was no particle accelerator. Ordinary lightning struck Barry while he was mixing some random ingredients in a chemistry experiment [which was awesomely hinted in Arrow S2 when Barry visited Starling CIty
Showrunners of this show are doing wonderful job so far. Accurate comic book origin, Barry is full-on superhero with suit from the start, Rogues and Zoom will be in early S1, intrigue around time travel and particle accelerator. Great stuff.
I definitely prefer the Particle Accelerator storm to the lightning and chemicals. It's equally ludicrous, but it feels much more random and grounded (wrong word, but only one that comes to mind).
I have gifcam and it's fairly easy to use but I'm lazy so.
Well in COIE,
it turned out Barry was the lightening bolt that gave him his powers. Closing a timeloop. Chemicals were meaningless.
Escape Goat
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I think Olliver said it was 600 miles away from Central City.
- New clip from the second episode (Youtube, 1:15)
Yeah, thought so. That would have made those regular visits really hard. And it wouldn't make sense to keep him so far away.
Yeah, particle accelerator is better not only because it offers more easily explained origin of his superpowers, but also because the opening of the accelerator was heavily hinted in so many Arrow episodes.
Finally got to watch the pilot. Some of the acting and writing felt poor, but the special effects and tone of the show are good. I'll stick around a little longer, see if the writing improves.
That said, someday DC needs to come to terms with a very real fact: Wally is the best Flash. Stop trying Barry. He's not interesting enough.
That said, someday DC needs to come to terms with a very real fact: Wally is the best Flash. Stop trying Barry. He's not interesting enough.
The Cowboy
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Indeed, you can knock up some decent gifs quite fast with it.
Now run, Barry - RUN!!!! (the endless struggle).
Zippin around the city (he's doing laps
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Razgriz-Specter
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Wally is definitely the best but for a show about Flash it can't just start with Wally.
However I hope they go with Wally in the movies.
They can start with Wally easily. There are numerous ways to do it, and it would allow us to have the greatest Flash ever as opposed to never having the time to build up to him because Barry is generally too straight-laced and dull to keep people interested.
call_kotaku
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Septimus Prime
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Awesome premiere. I really like how he's not way too ridiculously fast, where nothing would be challenging for him.
unholyrevenger72
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I honest don't like those close ups. Prefer these medium range shotsNow run, Barry - RUN!!!! (the endless struggle).
Jables Swan
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I honest don't like those close ups. Prefer these medium range shots
Close ups never look good when someone is running fast like this. I wish they would never do it. I hope they don't do as many effects in every episode. So terrible.
Ignatz Mouse
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It's not like Show Barry is exactly like Comics Barry. I'm sure he'll have elements of Wally, if only because he's younger.
Isn'ta big deal in terms of Flash villains? It seems weird to have him be apparently just a villain of the weekMultiple Man
Keep in mind, it's probably going to be villain of the week while introducing villains, but more cohesive later on.
I honest don't like those close ups. Prefer these medium range shots
Yeah, that shot was the best part of the episode. The closeups of Flash running look so shoddy, hopefully they avoid those.
Hold up they got
Multiplex
Seems like they're going to be using more than a few
Firestorm villains. First Multiplex, and Plastique is going to appear as well. Makes sense, considering the man himself is going to be a character.
The Cowboy
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I to prefer the wide shot, but it doesn't loop so well, so we'll just leave weather wizard trapped for eternity
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Jorok Goldblade
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I've got my own theory on Wells:
I think Wells is Barry from the future. He got pulled back in time in a battle with Zoom, (whose power is similar to Barry's but achieved through time distortion rather than speed) back to the night his mother died.
Zoom tried to kill Barry, but Barry was pulled out of the house by Future Flash, and Zoom killed Nora instead.
Future Barry adopted the Wells persona and started Star Labs, and the Accelerator was an attempt at building the Cosmic Treadmill, either to go home or to go back and save his mother. This metaphorically fulfills the "Barry became the Lightning Bolt that gave him his powers" arc from the comics.
Wells was legitimately paralyzed in the explosion, but healed due to his speed healing powers. However, he had to stay in the chair to maintain his cover.
Zoom tried to kill Barry, but Barry was pulled out of the house by Future Flash, and Zoom killed Nora instead.
Future Barry adopted the Wells persona and started Star Labs, and the Accelerator was an attempt at building the Cosmic Treadmill, either to go home or to go back and save his mother. This metaphorically fulfills the "Barry became the Lightning Bolt that gave him his powers" arc from the comics.
Wells was legitimately paralyzed in the explosion, but healed due to his speed healing powers. However, he had to stay in the chair to maintain his cover.
NotTheGuyYouKill
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I honest don't like those close ups. Prefer these medium range shots
That was a fantastic shot.
The resemblance between both actors would really help to sell this
LOL someone better do an edit of this
I honest don't like those close ups. Prefer these medium range shots
Yeah I was just looking for a gif of this, it really stood out as the best of any of the speed running shots.
Rewatched the episode today with my wife...
One thing I wish the show would do is be consistent with Barry's powers. It's either:
a) from an outside perspective (he's moving really fast, and it's a fight to control himself at that speed)
b) from an inside perspective (the world is moving really slowly around him, and he feels he's moving normally)
You can't have both...but the episode flipped back and forth, depending on what gag the writers wanted to put into the scene.
For example, when he's running around the alley, crashing into things, that's a). Barry's moving at hundreds of miles per hour, but he's just like us, but he's perceiving the world at our speed, so he can't stop his quickness in time. However, just a minute or two before, he's in the diner, and he perceives everything around him moving slowly, which is b). Same with the incident at the police station. To Barry, all he did was run over and smack the thug and then run back. He didn't go flying into a wall because he couldn't handle his own speed.
Fuck, even Cisco tells him that he's experiencing b)...right before he demonstrates a) by plowing into the barrels on the runway.
Yeah, I really don't expect the writers to consider this at all, but since it's sort of the defining element of the show, they really should.
Also, he needs to start eating more. A lot more. Don't even bring attention to it. Just have him always with a snack, like Pitt in Ocean's. I was hoping they'd do this when he first shows up at the crime scene and pulls the candy bar out, but so far, nothing much.
One thing I wish the show would do is be consistent with Barry's powers. It's either:
a) from an outside perspective (he's moving really fast, and it's a fight to control himself at that speed)
b) from an inside perspective (the world is moving really slowly around him, and he feels he's moving normally)
You can't have both...but the episode flipped back and forth, depending on what gag the writers wanted to put into the scene.
For example, when he's running around the alley, crashing into things, that's a). Barry's moving at hundreds of miles per hour, but he's just like us, but he's perceiving the world at our speed, so he can't stop his quickness in time. However, just a minute or two before, he's in the diner, and he perceives everything around him moving slowly, which is b). Same with the incident at the police station. To Barry, all he did was run over and smack the thug and then run back. He didn't go flying into a wall because he couldn't handle his own speed.
Fuck, even Cisco tells him that he's experiencing b)...right before he demonstrates a) by plowing into the barrels on the runway.
Yeah, I really don't expect the writers to consider this at all, but since it's sort of the defining element of the show, they really should.
Also, he needs to start eating more. A lot more. Don't even bring attention to it. Just have him always with a snack, like Pitt in Ocean's. I was hoping they'd do this when he first shows up at the crime scene and pulls the candy bar out, but so far, nothing much.
Discotheque
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I think he's already acquired that finesse. By the end of the episode he saved that guy mid-collision without a hitch
They'll think of other reasons to peg him down rather than stumbling over himself now I think
I pray we get a slow-mo quicksilver like scene soon tbough, that could be good for a laugh if they do something interesting with it
They'll think of other reasons to peg him down rather than stumbling over himself now I think
I pray we get a slow-mo quicksilver like scene soon tbough, that could be good for a laugh if they do something interesting with it
Kinda.
Barry Allen is introduced in Arrow pre-powers. This first episode picks up nine months after that. And Arrow is crossing over with this in episode 3 and episode 9? So they'll be mentioning stuff that happened in Arrow S2/S3 that you may lack context for.
I mean you don't have to. It's like a comic-book - they'll give you the gist, but for full context and character motivations I'd at least watch Arrow 208/209 anmd Seeing Red - the latter is the first appearance of Cisco/Frost.
I think the difference is him getting used to these powers.
That is more Pitt's oral obsession. He eats in all of his movies. And they probably won't do the same with Barry, letting actors eat on set is cumbersome with multiple takes.
This is super, super obvious.
PHOENIXZERO
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First, getting a grip on what's happening to him and what he's capable of so there should be issues expected, even in the police station scene he was clearly going into that "mode" involuntarily, his accident at the airstrip was caused by him flashing back and
I think it's pretty clear they're going to address the need of more calories and nutrients thing in the next episode going by the preview and his passing out,
I'm guessing when they bring Wally in he's going to more reflect the Nu52 version.
What I like about Arrow is you know where it's going, but they screw with you constantly. And then do what you thought they were going to do originally. I hope they do the same with Flash. Throw in twists that we don't see coming, get us used to them, and then bam - back to what we thought was going to happen, just when we're happy with the twist.
Goodsprings
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I liked the pilot!!! Way to go, Barry
Make him black obviously, but keep the DCAU personality. Win/win.
Escape Goat
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I bet it is super, super wrong. At least I hope it is. Telegraphing the big reveal in episode 1 would be horrible.
Ignatz Mouse
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The time perception thing is easily explained (and even implied) by the idea that it switches on and off. So he's going to have to learn to perceive at high speeds independent of him running fast.
And food, that would depend on where his speed comes from. If they go with the speed force, which is really necessary if they want to have him break rules of physics, then food doesn't matter.
Napoleonthechimp
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Even if his body could withstand the stress of moving that fast his metabolism would be hit massively be the energy expenditure required. There's no way a few snacks would be enough.
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