The Flash |OT| Gotta Go Fast - Tuesdays 8/7c

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I'm sure the negative reviews will come just as they tend to do in these topics after the "new episode glow" wears off and people start posting a day or so after the airing but IMO they're 2 for 2 with solid episodes now. I'm kinda disappointed they killed Stagg but I guess someone else (
like his daughter or create a son to go along with his daughter
) could always take over and take his role in other events if they choose to use Stagg Industries again in the future.

Nabs said:
This show is so good already. What the hell.
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I think it's helped immensely that they already had a vision and direction in what they were going for down before Barry even showed up in Arrow last year, hell they were already planting seeds and building it up in Arrow's season 2 premiere so they had A LOT of time to probably iron kinks out. Plus I'm sure there were plenty of lessons learned from Arrow's first season that were applicable to The Flash.
 
I don't think
Multiplex is dead it's far too easy to have him escape by making it look like he died when in fact it was a clone
 
This show is so, so good. Like, it doesn't need to "find itself". I'm very impressed.

Grant Gustin is killing it. I was not prepared to be so emotionally invested in the show this quickly. Now just make Captain Singh more prominent and we're good to go.
 
I think the show is benefiting from being birthed while Arrow was in its groove. They know what they are doing, and just dove right into the awesome. No awkward growing pains since they know how to make a damn good super hero show.
 
Is Arrow as good as this show? The paxe it's moving at is refreshingly fast (ha). It would've taken SHIELD half a season for then to start doing things The Flash is doing in its first couple episodes. Wow.
 
Error said:
I don't think
Multiplex is dead it's far too easy to have him escape by making it look like he died when in fact it was a clone
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I don't know, they told Barry to look for the one that was exerting himself and he found one sweating which was meant to be the giveaway. But, it seems like with a power such as that he should be harder to kill.


Mariolee said:
Is Arrow as good as this show? The paxe it's moving at is refreshingly fast (ha). It would've taken SHIELD half a season for then to start doing things The Flash is doing in its first couple episodes. Wow.
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The first season of Arrow starts out kind of slow but ramps up as it nears the end and season two moved at an incredible pace. The show IMO has covered more ground in its first two seasons than Smallville did in like it's first seven or eight.
 
So far I am loving these random guest stars in pivotal roles... First episode we had the Flash from the original series as Barry's father and now we have Death from Bill & Ted playing a scientist.
 
Zoom is one fast assassin.

Really impressed with this episode, but yeah, the pep talk did seem as cheesy as the pizzas Barry and West ate.
 
Mariolee said:
Is Arrow as good as this show? The paxe it's moving at is refreshingly fast (ha). It would've taken SHIELD half a season for then to start doing things The Flash is doing in its first couple episodes. Wow.
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I was way more into Arrow 2 episodes in than I am with Flash. Don't get me wrong, I'm enjoying Flash, but Arrow is the shit.
 
PHOENIXZERO said:
Because most of us already know what not to expect and are at peace with it and want to have fun with it.
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compared to arrow this show is way more cheesy and cringeworthy in terms of acting and dialogue and characterisations.

then again it's cw.

i was expecting arrow quality. story hasn't gripped me just yet.

probably because arrow had that two timelines going on.

i just can't get over the acting and dialogue. that supposed dramatic scene of barry confronting joe, or joe encouraging barry to go for it. i just can't...

pacing is also a hit and miss. was hoping they could flesh out the villain more and his motivations, or barry would've been more sympathetic of the villain after hearing his plea.
 
Mariolee said:
Is Arrow as good as this show? The paxe it's moving at is refreshingly fast (ha). It would've taken SHIELD half a season for then to start doing things The Flash is doing in its first couple episodes. Wow.
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Around episode 14 of Arrow it really kicked off and hasn't slowed since.
It was pretty good up till then but that was when it became great.
(think that was when Slade showed up and the island stuff became the best part of the show)
 
Nemesis121 said:
Danielle Panabaker is so fine..
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This show is just more CW crap I think, but I like the guy that plays Edward. I hope they don't make him Reverse Flash too quickly, I like him as the "shitty nice guy" and subverting the trope of having the competing love interest go evil could do a lot to make this show more watchable.
 
A line like "We all got struck by that lightning" is something I'd expect in a comic book, and you know that a show based on a comic book has it doesn't bother me one bit.

The cheesiness is part of why I'm enjoying this show so much, specially when you compare it to Arrow's dark and gritty tone. Two different tones that complement each perfectly.
 
Error said:
A line like "We all got struck by that lightning" is something I'd expect in a comic book, and you know that a show based on a comic book has it doesn't bother me one bit.

The cheesiness is part of why I'm enjoying this show so much, specially when you compare it to Arrow's dark and gritty tone. Two different tones that complement each perfectly.
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It's possible to avoid being overly dark and brooding while still not being poorly-acted embarrassing CW shlock. There are several comic books with substantially better writing than what we've seen so far, so I don't think the argument of "it's a comic book show what are you expecting!?" is a very good one.
 
"We all got struck by lightning" was pretty bad, yeah, but the rest of the show is so much fun that I can overlook the occasional painfully cheesy line.

I'm just impressed by the effects they're able to pull off on a TV budget. Though they need to stop having shots where Barry is running toward the camera. Those just look bad.
 
Embarrassment of riches with comic based TV right now. Going to be even more crowded in the next few years too.

I'm really loving this show just two episodes in. Yes, it is campy, silly, and occasionally saccharine sweet. But it's also a damn accurate Flash adaptation. Close enough and with its own style to very quickly put it down as one of my favorite adaptations in general.

Batman TAS, Spectacular Spider-Man, JLA and JLU, and Avengers EMH are still the high bar, but this and Arrow are as close to comic accurate as live action TV budgets can possibly maintain.

I'm loving the special effects of Flash in particular. They've done a tremendous job with they have. Can't wait to see what comes next.
 
This may have been mentioned in the thread already, but it was pretty distracting to me that in the same episode that they mention Flashman needs extra energy to do meta-human shit, they have Agent Smith apparently defying thermodynamics and spawning matter out of sheer willpower. How many tacos does it take to Xerox yourself a couple hundred times?
 
Fmal said:
It's possible to avoid being overly dark and brooding while still not being poorly-acted embarrassing CW shlock. There are several comic books with substantially better writing than what we've seen so far, so I don't think the argument of "it's a comic book show what are you expecting!?" is a very good one.
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The thing is, I don't think the show is badly acted. If you want bad acting check out Arrow s1, that show got a lot better as it progressed and even so I enjoyed the fuck out of s1. This show has some weird lines here and there but I wouldn't say it has bad acting. Tom Cavenagh, Jesse L. Martin and Grant Gustin are killing it IMO specially Tom Cavenagh.
 
I'm not one to be critical and I'm usually easily entertained, but this episode was just terrible. Bad writing, bad acting, bad special effects...I couldn't wait for it to be over.

To be fair though, the bad acting was mostly from Multiplex. The way everyone else delivered their terrible lines while still looking sincere was actually pretty impressive, but every time Black was on-screen it was really difficult to watch. Not to mention the shitty clone effects.
 
Abe Bly said:
This may have been mentioned in the thread already, but it was pretty distracting to me that in the same episode that they mention Flashman needs extra energy to do meta-human shit, they have Agent Smith apparently defying thermodynamics and spawning matter out of sheer willpower. How many tacos does it take to Xerox yourself a couple hundred times?
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Yeah, it bothered me too. Even if we were to excuse the fact that he is apparently creating matter from nothing, the thing that bothered me the most was that he was copying his clothes. They explicitly said it was cellular division that was making clones, so his clothes shouldn't have been copied.
 
rexor0717 said:
Yeah, it bothered me too. Even if we were to excuse the fact that he is apparently creating matter from nothing, the thing that bothered me the most was that he was copying his clothes. They explicitly said it was cellular division that was making clones, so his clothes shouldn't have been copied.
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Not just clothes, either. He totally cloned a gun in one scene.
 
The last time I loved a show this much after two episodes wa Dexter

Barry is so ridiculously sympathetic. it might seem he's very Peter Parkerish, but he's pulling it off far better than movie Spidermans ever did

Also...I was right, the lighting bolts are speed force, not after images from his costume, because he got them also when wearing a regular suit :)

THat treadmill scene's ending :D

Overall, great episode. Lots of superpowers and cool fights. Wells being psycho, supporting cast working well too.

At this point I'm so invested I almost got teary eyed when Barry was making ammends with West.
 
morningbus said:
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Pretty much. I mean sometimes you have to factor in TV logic - they're not going to write a scene for Multiplex where his clones and copies of clones find clothes identical to the real Mutiplex and put them on. Because that would be more insulting than "they just do" as an answer.
 
AdrianWerner said:
The last time I loved a show this much after two episodes wa Dexter

Barry is so ridiculously sympathetic. it might seem he's very Peter Parkerish, but he's pulling it off far better than movie Spidermans ever did

Also...I was right, the lighting bolts are speed force, not after images from his costume, because he got them also when wearing a regular suit :)

THat treadmill scene's ending :D

Overall, great episode. Lots of superpowers and cool fights. Wells being psycho, supporting cast working well too.

At this point I'm so invested I almost got teary eyed when Barry was making ammends with West.
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And Martin sold the hell out of the "You aren't my father" earlier. Subtle and great. And then that last scene of Barry apologizing. Just great.

And yes, definite Peter Parker vibes from Barry in this, and that is fine by me.
 
"We were all struck by that lightning."

Dat shitty Arrow-esque dialogue.

Good ep. Was surprised how well the effects held up post-pilot. Wells is probably the most interesting part and Tom Cavanagh is doing a great job with him.
 
Not bad. It was basically just a repeat of the pilot's elements. Special effects remain good and certain relationships are getting more fleshed out (especially between Barry and Joe). Iris remains a weak point (and any of the plots that surround her). Just typical CW shlock. Some of the dialogue is also pretty questionable but that's to be expected as Arrow has the same flaw. It's a fun show but it could be more. We'll see.

If they're going to continue to do these flashbacks, they need to recast the kid. He decimates every scene he's in.
 
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