The Flash |OT| Gotta Go Fast - Tuesdays 8/7c

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Fuck, people. Fuck.

GTFO with spoilering Daredevil in a Flash Thread.
I read spoilers here because I assume it will be Flash related. I randomly uncheck a comment not knowing the context (like the one above me), and bam..

Fuck that. Go to the daredevil thread, talk it there please...
 
V_Arnold said:
Fuck, people. Fuck.

GTFO with spoilering Daredevil in a Flash Thread.
I read spoilers here because I assume it will be Flash related. I randomly uncheck a comment not knowing the context (like the one above me), and bam..

Fuck that. Go to the daredevil thread, talk it there please...
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Sorry man :P
 
Can we just stop with the Daredevil talk all together? Lately both Arrow & Flash have been nothing but topics for Daredevil, esp spoilers!.. Daredevil should have no mention here, this isn't a Daredevil thread nor is it even in the Arrowverse.

Sorry, just getting annoying as of late.

Though I do agree Laurel/iris/*insert girl here* hate is rather annoying. I love Laurel, and think Iris fits well in Flash.
 
GulAtiCa said:
Can we just stop with the Daredevil talk all together? Lately both Arrow & Flash have been nothing but topics for Daredevil, esp spoilers!.. Daredevil should have no mention here, this isn't a Daredevil thread nor is it even in the Arrowverse.

Sorry, just getting annoying as of late.
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Sorry
 
I like Laurel, but Iris is just... stubborn. Too stubborn. It is a "well written character trait" where well written sadly means an insufferable character, but still..
 
V_Arnold said:
I like Laurel, but Iris is just... stubborn. Too stubborn. It is a "well written character trait" where well written sadly means an insufferable character, but still..
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I'm of two minds on it, but I do agree that one of Iris' less endearing traits is her refusal to compromise no matter what is said to her. On the other hand, when the things people are saying to her are usually patronizing or just half assed excuses...eh. Like you said, it's a well written trait, but the writers aren't doing the work to make us go "Yeah, Iris has a point here too." Which results in her being kind of annoying at times.

GulAtiCa said:
Don't worry, not really directed at you or anyone in particular. Just both topics have been more Daredevil tak then Arrow/Flash.
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People are still in the honeymoon period with Daredevil, so talk about it is kind of inescapable. Especially in threads like these about "competing" shows, which people have to inevitably start making comparisons.

I do agree there needs to be less of it though, if only so folks who haven't caught up with DD (seriously it only came out last week; give us some time folks lol) don't end up running into spoilers.
 
I honestly felt this episode was super boring. The whole plot thread with the current Thawne scenario was good, but the rest...eh. Iris is justified, but I just didn't care. And the villain...I just didn't care. At least in the Rouges' episodes, the Rogues themselves are entertaining as hell for me, so I don't mind a few plot contrivances here and there.
 
Looking at the current Arrow episode, I'm very much confused about the order of the episodes. This Flash episode seemed to make a lot more sense if you put it before last weeks Arrow episode.
 
Joni said:
Looking at the current Arrow episode, I'm very much confused about the order of the episodes. This Flash episode seemed to make a lot more sense if you put it before last weeks Arrow episode.
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It's a really weird transition, because it's a scenario where it's like "At what point did Felicity and Ray leave Starling, and then somehow never skip a beat between previous events and when they get back?" It felt off, but there's definitely a chronology, and it fits in.
 
Joni said:
Looking at the current Arrow episode, I'm very much confused about the order of the episodes. This Flash episode seemed to make a lot more sense if you put it before last weeks Arrow episode.
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I think it takes place before episode 13 of arrow this season. I believe I read that in a description somewhere.

EDIT: Sorry it takes place before episode 18 of season 3.TVDB link
 
I thought Flash was going to go tornado mode on the bees, and it was kind of weird how he had to let Felicity handle it, but if you read the Arrow thread, you already know how I feel about her and her hijinks. She was actually quite tolerable in this episode until the hacker war nonsense, though.

It is a little odd to have Flash display wildly inconsistent speed within the same episode, though. In the beginning, he's fast enough to open a car door, get in, have a seat (instant stop), and close the door faster than sight, and he's even fast enough to do so while moving other people around with him. Then, 15 minutes later, he can't outrun a swarm of bees. He should be fast enough to pluck each one out of the air, one at a time, in seconds. But he's not so Ray and Felicity can have their moments.

Sho_Nuff82 said:
The show even shows how this would look, in the first episode after the time travel. Weather Wizard is shown as one of the most dangerous opponents...when he has prep time and the element of surprise. Barry catches him waking up from a nap and the fight is over before he can even throw a snowball.
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I saw it that he was just reading the paper. Either way, your point stands.
 
BKatastrophe said:
It's a really weird transition, because it's a scenario where it's like "At what point did Felicity and Ray leave Starling, and then somehow never skip a beat between previous events and when they get back?" It felt off, but there's definitely a chronology, and it fits in.
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Yeah, but delaying that one Flash episode keeps having an effect.

SeZMehK said:
I think it takes place before episode 13 of arrow this season. I believe I read that in a description somewhere.

EDIT: Sorry it takes place before episode 18 of season 3.TVDB link
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Makes sense, which means Ray got his nanobots after this Flash episode.
 
ReiGun said:
On Gaf at least, people seem to have turned a corner and opened up to her. I think it comes down to three factors. 1) Her screen time is reduced. 2) She's generally trying to help Team Arrow now. 3) Oliver has been such an over the top asshole to her and everyone else that she no longer comes out looking like the bad guy when she tells him off.

Of course, that's just Gaf. Go elsewhere - Twitter namely, Youtube as well - and there are still a significant number of people who just hate her for whatever reason. And the longer this season goes on, the harder time I have understanding them.
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admittedly GAF is the only place I interact with the fandom(among many others)
 
I liked this episode, funny how Felicity needs to be in Central City to be that Felicity i liked from S1. Confirms to me that its just Oliver and his BS dragging her down.
 
In the current episode of Arrow Cisco discovers that metas existed in the Arrowverse outside of Central City before the Star Labs reactor accident. That doesn't jibe with what we know so far. Any conjecture on this?
 
Wag said:
In the current episode of Arrow Cisco discovers that metas existed in the Arrowverse outside of Central City before the Star Labs reactor accident. That doesn't jibe with what we know so far. Any conjecture on this?
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It'll probably be brought up in the next episode. I wouldn't worry too much. I doubt that plot point will remain exclusive to Arrow.
 
Wag said:
In the current episode of Arrow Cisco discovers that metas existed in the Arrowverse outside of Central City before the Star Labs reactor accident. That doesn't jibe with what we know so far. Any conjecture on this?
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Probably just a good excuse to have metahumans that don't require some sort of connection to Central City. Gives Arrow and spin-off a chance to take on metas from all sorts of different contexts. Smart move, I'm not sure how deep they'll delve into the mystery.
 
Wag said:
In the current episode of Arrow Cisco discovers that metas existed in the Arrowverse outside of Central City before the Star Labs reactor accident. That doesn't jibe with what we know so far. Any conjecture on this?
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You're going to have science experiments gone wrong, aliens, magical beings, and offshoot human species like Amazons, Atlanteans, and Homo Magi. You could also have other sources producing the same energies as the Accelerator. Maybe there's a secret invasion from Apokolips, and Boom Tubes create a similar effect?
 
Jorok Goldblade said:
You're going to have science experiments gone wrong, aliens, magical beings, and offshoot human species like Amazons, Atlanteans, and Homo Magi. You could also have other sources producing the same energies as the Accelerator. Maybe there's a secret invasion from Apokolips, and Boom Tubes create a similar effect?
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Kalibak for S3 big bad.
 
Beth the Bee Queen was hilarious.

PhoncipleBone said:
We now have a scale for measuring lie tolerance. The Thea Scale. 10.0 on the scale is jumping off a balcony while wearing parachute pants.
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lol

Carbonox said:
Felicity is way more likeable in this show than Arrow though. Arrow just brings down everything and everyone in that show it seems.
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cw_sasuke said:
I liked this episode, funny how Felicity needs to be in Central City to be that Felicity i liked from S1. Confirms to me that its just Oliver and his BS dragging her down.
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Agreed 100%. Felicity is awful on Arrow but Season One Felicity lives on in The Flash.
 
All of the discussion of if Iris is being a pain or not seem besides the point considering how bizarrely sexist the entire exchange between Joe and Eddie was
 
The Technomancer said:
All of the discussion of if Iris is being a pain or not seem besides the point considering how bizarrely sexist the entire exchange between Joe and Eddie was
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Yep.

I'm far from impartial in the first place. I've been crushing on Candice since we found out she was playing Iris.

But she is by far the least offensive thing about the entire situation. "When you're her husband." is just a... wow... line to hear in 2015.
 
Thunder Monkey said:
Yep.

I'm far from impartial in the first place. I've been crushing on Candice since we found out she was playing Iris.

But she is by far the least offensive thing about the entire situation. "When you're her husband." is just a... wow... line to hear in 2015.
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Joe is in his late 40s. Nothing surprising about it.
 
Iris should be brought in on the plan, and given a "call Barry immediately" panic button. She's the common point Wells can use to hurt Barry, Eddie and Joe at the same time, and needs to be prepared.

Is Joe forgetting that this happened?
 
Eddie: Hmm, I guess when that Caitlyn girl told me and Iris about that therapy that he was going through at STAR labs it was a lie...so he did honestly confess his feelings for my woman. I'm sure I'll remember this later.
 
Thunder Monkey said:
Yep.

I'm far from impartial in the first place. I've been crushing on Candice since we found out she was playing Iris.

But she is by far the least offensive thing about the entire situation. "When you're her husband." is just a... wow... line to hear in 2015.
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That is not nearly as offensive as the actual situation that has them keeping this secret in the first place i.e: The menfolk(father, brother, lover) protecting their woman.

I actually think what Eddie says is just as if not way more fucked up.
 
RellyRell28 said:
Serious how in the the fuck we don't have the Felicity drop the mic gif yet.
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The Technomancer said:
All of the discussion of if Iris is being a pain or not seem besides the point considering how bizarrely sexist the entire exchange between Joe and Eddie was
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Honestly I have problems with everything.

Guys, friggin' tell Iris already, there's absolute no reason to keep her out at this point. She's the newspaper's Flash columnist. She's in the line of fire already.

Iris, your boyfriend can have a goddamn secret or two, stop raking him over the coals for not telling you something he's probably not allowed to tell you. You don't even deserve him if you're giving him so little trust.

Iris isn't in the clear because they're being stupid, and they're not in the clear because Iris doesn't trust Eddie even a lick.
 
This episode should have been the third watch with Barry, Joe and Eddie having fun while freaking out criminals, it was the only great part of the episode. I hope they dont spend too much time in that LOST shit with Cisco, call Penny so they dont extend this nonsense.


And yeah, I think Barry and Eddie gave enough wiggle room to imply they were hiding something beyond a regular police investigation, they just failed to convey it, I really hope Eddie becomes an actual character and just tells her. But yeah, there is no way to defend this, specially since most people here are Arrow fans and we had to bear two seasons of this.
 
JDSN said:
And yeah, I think Barry and Eddie gave enough wiggle room to imply they were hiding something beyond a regular police investigation, they just failed to convey it, I really hope Eddie becomes an actual character and just tells her. But yeah, there is no way to defend this, specially since most people here are Arrow fans and we had to bear two seasons of this.
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I imagine the secret will break them apart and he will start to resent barry and snap and (spoilered for random character relationship theory)
start remembering how his adoptive parents were abusive con artists and how abusing others can feel good and that he should abuse barry and then request to stop being called by his nickname eddie and instead be called by his birth name Malcolm. >.>
though his full snappage won't likely happen until near the middle of season 2 as there is just to much to do at the end of season 1 and if season one ends with flashpoint triggering then most likely season two will take a number of episodes to resolve that.
 
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