Wormhole, timelines, black holes, dimensions. What difference does it make.
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Wormhole, timelines, black holes, dimensions. What difference does it make.
unholyrevenger72
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You got it all wrong. Barry's dad didn't want to change the past because he was happy with the way Barry turned out.
Eddie totally didn't have to kill himself, all he had to do was shoot his balls off, not his dick just his balls. Though it still would have created a black hole
Delta Assault
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Uh, I mean... sure, I get that he's happy with the way Barry turned out. But why wouldn't he be happy with the way Barry turned out if he had a stable normal family? If his dad wasn't dragged off to prison and his mom brutally murdered in front of his eyes? I mean, wouldn't a Barry that was spared all of that turn out pretty well? Most people would probably think that would be a much better environment for a kid to grow up in.
I mean, this is Barry's dad, a normal person. Not some sort of time travel theorist coming up with all kinds of time travel theories about fracturing timelines or having to follow some strict Temporal Directive about keeping the timeline pure or something.
EraldoCoil
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Perfect....
Well yes, but look at how Barry turned out in this timeline. Sure his dad is in prison for a crime he didn't commit, his mom is dead, he nearly died, there are villains running around everywhere.
But despite it all, he used his power to do something greater, to become someone who is destined for so much more. If you look at most comic book heroes. Many if not all tend to have a tragedy in their life that pushes them into becoming something greater.
Would Bruce Wayne be Batman without the death of his parents? Would Peter Parker learn the responsibility of using his powers if it wasn't for the death of Uncle Ben? Kal-El becoming Superman because of the sacrifices his parents made to ensure his survival, Tony Stark, after being taken captive realizing that he should use his mind and technology to help the world rather than creating weapons that has been used in wars. etc.
Normal life Barry might have just growed up to be a forensic scientist, live a normal boring life. But now he's a hero, and he's only at the beginning of his journey.
Delta Assault
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So Barry's dad is a big fan of superhero comics and was thinking about Bruce Wayne and Peter Parker's origin stories when he was talking to Barry about the time travel option? And also recalling that one episode of Star Trek TNG, "Tapestry", where Q gave Picard the chance to go back and change his past and he did but turned out to be a lowly boring ensign?
unholyrevenger72
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the "Happy" Future is only one of many possible outcomes. The future he knows for sure Barry turns out alright is the one he is living.
StopMakingSense
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Man they really need to figure out where Iron Heights is located and keep it there.
Iron Heights is wherever it needs to be.
Wouldn't have it any other way.
Hannibal is the Show. I'm just fortunate to be a fan of a lot of other fiction.
Blake Neely is scoring Supergirl; has become the go-to musician for the Arrowverse.
At first, I thought that Eddie's death would be the motivation to make Barry realize he can no longer just be faster when it comes to foes, he has to become smarter, more effecient, perhaps even deadlier because if he was any of those three, Eddie wouldn't had resort to sacrifice...but then remembering Zoom's motivations and suddenly:
HOLY SHIT, JAY GARRET IS ETCHED IN THE POLICE MURAL!
Sgt. Kabukiman
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What an incredible ending. Despite some of the previous episodes, I would never have expected to see CG effects this good on TV. It was a short scene but it looked absolutely amazing.
It's funny, when this show was announced I was pretty excited but I remember thinking that they would be forced to power down the Flash significantly because what he does in the comics is just too insane but here we are at the end of season one and he's already time-traveling and running up a buliding into a singularity !
I do have some problems with the episode though. There was a lot of build-up but I just can't buy that Barry would risk the posibility of destroying the world just to save his mom.That's not a very heroic thing to do. I liked that he stopped himself from saving her in the end but he should never have gone back in the first place without being forced by Wells somehow. Oh and as everyone remarked already, the Caitlin / singularity thing was dumb.
In the end, despite my issues with the episode, it was still a great finale to a fantastic first season. I can't believe they managed to do justice to The Flash on TV in such a flamboyant fashion !
It's funny, when this show was announced I was pretty excited but I remember thinking that they would be forced to power down the Flash significantly because what he does in the comics is just too insane but here we are at the end of season one and he's already time-traveling and running up a buliding into a singularity !
I do have some problems with the episode though. There was a lot of build-up but I just can't buy that Barry would risk the posibility of destroying the world just to save his mom.That's not a very heroic thing to do. I liked that he stopped himself from saving her in the end but he should never have gone back in the first place without being forced by Wells somehow. Oh and as everyone remarked already, the Caitlin / singularity thing was dumb.
In the end, despite my issues with the episode, it was still a great finale to a fantastic first season. I can't believe they managed to do justice to The Flash on TV in such a flamboyant fashion !
To be fair, she's a biologist. As someone on here pointed out. Cisco is a mechanical engineer and Professor Stein is a physicist, hence why he was so prominent in this episode.
Sgt. Kabukiman
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Sure, it's not that big of a deal but they could have given that line to someone else...
Well, at least we got to see her as Killer Frost !
Delta Assault
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You don't understand, he loved his mom that much.
Well... I mean... until he didn't actually go through with it, I guess.
Hell, for all we know, saving Nora could end up creating a future where Barry died. Maybe she ran him over accidentally with the family car.
I can buy that he's selfish enough to risk the planet. I can't buy that everyone else went along with it. It's their lives and loved ones at stake too.
Yeah, exactly. The show didn't present Barry's choice as hubris. Everyone else was on board with this plan!
So fucking awesome. One question; Hermes' helmet, what does that mean? What happened? Was Hermes/Mercury one of the first persons with the Speedforce in the comics or something?
And damn. Wells being a master manipulator (pretending to be a father), Joe being an excellent father, Henry being an excellent father. Ronnie and Caitlin getting married...Eddie being happy with Iris and than killing himself....Barry deciding not to save his mom. Damn. What a finale. What a season. What a show.
And damn. Wells being a master manipulator (pretending to be a father), Joe being an excellent father, Henry being an excellent father. Ronnie and Caitlin getting married...Eddie being happy with Iris and than killing himself....Barry deciding not to save his mom. Damn. What a finale. What a season. What a show.
unholyrevenger72
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It's a reference to Jay Garrick, the Golden Age Flash, he wore the Mercury Helmet.
It was a reference to Jay Garrick. in the comic book, he was the original Flash of Justice Society. It was his helmet.
Wiktor
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Normal people are more varied than you imply. Anyway don't forget for an entire season his father was very ok with being in prison. He didn't want to be an anchor for his son. This was completely in line with his philosophies.
Hmm looks like so's Green Arrow and Aquaman.
unholyrevenger72
Banned
Vibrate him into existence....
Maybe talking to an alternate Cisco since he seems to have known about his ability?
Or could just be a pathetic man reaching out to the one person he thought he had a connection with in desperation.
Probably this.
ClivePwned
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Holy fuck that's unfair having to wait 4 months!
Gonna rewatch this season again in the meantime. So good!
Gonna rewatch this season again in the meantime. So good!
To try and save Eddie?
PHOENIXZERO
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Goddamn, nearly 1,000 posts since I was here a few hours before the episode aired! No way I'm catching up there.
Finale definitely deserves an "A" but dammit Eddie you should've just made an appointment for a vasectomy! Hell, Caitlin was there, she could've probably done it! It looks like though with Eddie killing himself they're going the paradox anyway. Things have pretty much been forced to change now. As for Barry changing his mind and not saving his mom and his dad being against it, I think it comes down to the old saying of "better the devil you know than the devil you don't". I did tear up when Barry was with his mom. Oh and Jay Garrick's helmet! I think Eddie's getting sucked into the singularity is going to lead to something.
Finale definitely deserves an "A" but dammit Eddie you should've just made an appointment for a vasectomy! Hell, Caitlin was there, she could've probably done it! It looks like though with Eddie killing himself they're going the paradox anyway. Things have pretty much been forced to change now. As for Barry changing his mind and not saving his mom and his dad being against it, I think it comes down to the old saying of "better the devil you know than the devil you don't". I did tear up when Barry was with his mom.
Oh and Jay Garrick's helmet! I think Eddie's getting sucked into the singularity is going to lead to something.Yeah it's probably the latter but I just found it interesting is all.
Entryhazard
Banned
I can see them doing after solving that fucking hole in reality, an alternate timeline which is the same as the current one with some minor variations.
It can start with the fact that by not existing RF never went in the past killing nora. But Cisco with the Vibe powers gets insight in how the particle accelerator worked and thus they anticipated the incident anyways. So Barry he's already the Flash and most of his relationship with the rest of star labs went the same way, but Wells is the real one.
It can start with the fact that by not existing RF never went in the past killing nora. But Cisco with the Vibe powers gets insight in how the particle accelerator worked and thus they anticipated the incident anyways. So Barry he's already the Flash and most of his relationship with the rest of star labs went the same way, but Wells is the real one.
Mah gawd, such an awesome epsode. So many great things happened.
S2 and S3 yes. But Arrow S1 finale is still the king of Arrowverse finales.
Had to make this
S2 and S3 yes. But Arrow S1 finale is still the king of Arrowverse finales.
Entryhazard
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But Eddie > Tommy
ClivePwned
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Mah gawd, such an awesome epsode. So many great things happened.
.Had to make this
I got a good laugh out of that
FUCKING CALLED IT
SparksterMeta0
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I had a feeling, but I never expected it to go down the way it did.
And that cliffhanger...
Chobel
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I came for "don't" gif. Anyone has a link?
For real? That's great news.
LMAO! This is good.
For real? That's great news.
Mah gawd, such an awesome epsode. So many great things happened.
Had to make this
LMAO! This is good.
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