The Flash |OT| Gotta Go Fast - Tuesdays 8/7c

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pulga said:
That's why I suggested snipers should've blown their kneecaps off.
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He didn't have to say anything. They already knew that 1) Captain Cold and Heat Wave had a hostage and 2) they've been known to work with others, so the cops had no way of knowing if there were other people involved or not.
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If they did that, a third party could've been watching and give the signal to kill Caitlin. We knew that there wasn't a third party, but the cops didn't.
 
Watching it again, the cops were basically just there setting up a perimeter and letting The Flash take care of it. Earlier Joe did shoot at Mick and took out his gun.
 
Episode 13 Synopsis:

Episode Title:
The Nuclear Man

ROBBIE AMELL AND VICTOR GARBER GUEST STAR AS FIRESTORM — After Ronnie (Robbie Amell) attacks a physicist (Bill Dow), Barry (Grant Gustin) and the team realize they need to go after Caitlin’s (Danielle Panabaker) fiancé who is now a dangerous meta-human. They deduce the best way to track Ronnie is to find Dr. Martin Stein (guest star Victor Garber) who was working on a project called F.I.R.E.S.T.O.R.M. Barry struggles to balance his duties as The Flash and his relationship with Linda Park (Malese Jow), and Joe (Jesse L. Martin) enlists Cisco’s (Carlos Valdes) help to reinvestigate the murder of Nora Allen (Michelle Harrison). General Eiling (Clancy Brown) returns to Central City.
Glen Winter directed the episode written by Andrew Kreisberg & Katherine Walczak.
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pulga said:
Flash not taking their guns away straight up is unacceptable.
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I know right?

We have seen it before when Flash is moving so fast it's like time is stopped.
So thats the perfect chance to take away their weapons.
He could have even done that against Green Arrow!!!!!!!!
 
Subpar Spatula said:
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I don't read the comics, but I really hope show Flash never gets as ridiculously overpowered as this. Whenever I see something about comics Flash he seems essentially like a god.

Shit, he could probably easily beat Superman. . . Just run around the world looking for kryptonite, he could find some before Supes even has time to react if he can really go faster than an attosecond. Really over the top.
 
Frank the Great said:
I don't read the comics, but I really hope show Flash never gets as ridiculously overpowered as this. Whenever I see something about comics Flash he seems essentially like a god.

Shit, he could probably easily beat Superman. . . Just run around the world looking for kryptonite, he could find some before Supes even has time to react if he can really go faster than an attosecond. Really over the top.
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lol flash doesn't need kryptonite to beat superman.

He'd steal his speed and turn him into a statue or beat him to death with a bunch of infinite mass punches. Or just throw his ass into the speed force.

Flash is broken as fuck
 
Frog-fu said:
And this is why I've never been able to get into comics much. It just boggles my mind why any grown ass adult would write this shit. Just, why?
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Because there's inherently a trend for power creep to happen when writers need to show big accomplishments by superheroes... especially for a hero that's 75 years old. I don't see how incomprehensible that is.
 
This episode really pissed me off.

"We have to get them to cross the streams!"

No! No you don't! You just have to run up and punch them in the face! Or have the cops shoot them while you're distracting them!
 
strafer said:
You're questioning the authenticity of a comic book show? :D
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Look, I'm usually okay with the silliness of these shows. I can accept that a guy with a bow and arrow can take on multiple dudes with machine guns

But come on, he ran right in between both of them at the beginning of the fight. All he had to do was hold his arms out and double clothesline both of them and the fight would've been over.
 
Some spoilers from TVLine:
Q: Do you have anything on The Flash?

A: Episode 16 is a real family affair, introducing both Captain Cold’s sister (played by The Tomorrow People‘s Peyton List) and Cisco’s brother (Sleepy Hollow‘s Nicholas Gonzalez). Of the latter casting, showrunner Andrew Kreisberg says, “We’re definitely going to see Cisco in his home environment, which is fun. Some of it’s based on the comic book work that Geoff Johns and Sterling Gates and I did, and some of it’s our own invention.” Bonus scoop: Episode 18 will unleash on Central City a bee-a-utiful tech wizard who rocks oversized shades and red lipstick… and has devised a clever-slash-amoral-slash-wildly unstable scheme to weaponize bee-sized ‘bots.
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Also, Andy Mientus talks with nukethefridge about his upcoming appearance on The Flash. (some spoilers)
 
Wreck-It Ralph said:
This episode really pissed me off.

"We have to get them to cross the streams!"

No! No you don't! You just have to run up and punch them in the face! Or have the cops shoot them while you're distracting them!
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I felt like crossing the streams was to destroy the weapons on top of incapacitating the rogues? Then again it didn't look like the weapons were destroyed so who knows.
 
Incendiary said:
I felt like crossing the streams was to destroy the weapons on top of incapacitating the rogues? Then again it didn't look like the weapons were destroyed so who knows.
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Because they couldn't destroy the weapons after incapacitating them? Wut?
 
Wreck-It Ralph said:
Look, I'm usually okay with the silliness of these shows. I can accept that a guy with a bow and arrow can take on multiple dudes with machine guns

But come on, he ran right in between both of them at the beginning of the fight. All he had to do was hold his arms out and double clothesline both of them and the fight would've been over.
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I felt the same way during this episode. Though it wouldn't have been much of an episode finale if Flash disarmed the 2 of them in a second, like I assume he could if Quicksilver can do what he did in the X-Men movie, and Flash at this point is I believe just as fast as Quicksilver, correct?
 
X-Frame said:
I felt the same way during this episode. Though it wouldn't have been much of an episode finale if Flash disarmed the 2 of them in a second, like I assume he could if Quicksilver can do what he did in the X-Men movie, and Flash at this point is I believe just as fast as Quicksilver, correct?
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Quicksilver's way slower actually.

That aside, Mr Expert Panner did exactly nothing to prepare the place of his choosing for that fight. Could've restricted Flash'es movement by freezing the ground etc. Instead the fight was just goofy.
 
Freshmaker said:
Quicksilver's way slower actually.

That aside, Mr Expert Panner did exactly nothing to prepare the place of his choosing for that fight. Could've restricted Flash'es movement by freezing the ground etc. Instead the fight was just goofy.
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Cold didn't set out to beat the Flash (or at least it wasn't the primary objective).

He wanted to force the Flash into the open so that the world would know he existed.
 
morningbus said:
Cold didn't set out to beat the Flash (or at least it wasn't the primary objective).

He wanted to force the Flash into the open so that the world would know he existed.
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That'd make more sense as a fallback plan. Try to kill Flash anyway, then if he wins, go to plan B.

As it was, they kinda wasted their time just to help recruiting for an anti Flash team.
 
Freshmaker said:
That'd make more sense as a fallback plan. Try to kill Flash anyway, then if he wins, go to plan B.

As it was, they kinda wasted their time just to help recruiting for an anti Flash team.
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It works either way. I'm sure he wouldn't have been upset if he killed Flash then and there, either.
 
Maybe Flash didn't wanna engage engage them until Caitlin was safe for sure?

I dunno, it's bizarre. I wish they had just made it so they had booby-trapped the entire area to slow Flash down or something.
 
I never realized Heatwave is played by Dom Purcell. This makes everything even more awesome. Rooting for the Rogues in every episode \o/
 
I felt kinda sad heat wave and cap cold never saw the inside of prison. Would've been awesome to reunite them with the clock king and Werner zytle inside.

Then escape using tattoos on cold's body that map out the prison.
 
I feel sorry for the police. They clearly don't have guns. Or even bows and arrows. And the city is so well-constructed that there aren't even rocks to throw at people.

All they can do, while confronted with two guys sporting weapons with limited range and attempting to kill someone, is hold up shields and pray Flash saves them.

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The idiocy of that episode was mind boggling.
 
Vinci said:
I feel sorry for the police. They clearly don't have guns. Or even bows and arrows. And the city is so well-constructed that there aren't even rocks to throw at people.

All they can do, while confronted with two guys sporting weapons with limited range and attempting to kill someone, is hold up shields and pray Flash saves them.

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The idiocy of that episode was mind boggling.
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This. What a stupid episode. They could have shot/incapacitated Cold and heat wave while they were shooting Flash. Instead, all of them just watched.
 
Hydrogen Bluebird said:
This. What a stupid episode. They could have shot/incapacitated Cold and heat wave while they were shooting Flash. Instead, all of them just watched.
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To be honest, the script in general wasn't as good as it could have (or has) been. On top of logic issues like the ones raised (which could have been addressed with a couple lines of well placed dialogue), there were lots of clunky lines.

For example, Cisco's happy admission near the start of the episode that he built Cold's gun - just for the sake of exposition. Really? They spent a whole episode blaming him and building his guilt about it. Why would his character play it off like a whacky goof with so little hesitance? Either have someone else point it out and have him react or have Cisko not look so happy and quick to admit he created the one thing that had his boss chew him out, nearly killed his friend and endangered the city, in the hands of a criminal still at large.

It was almost as strange as the bizarre non continuity in the earlier episodes where they spent a whole episode trying to protect a guy, Wells shivs him at the end and the police aren't even investigating his disappearance (or, you know, knife stabbed body) afterwards. Not even a throwaway line about how he jumped town. Just no acknowledgment at all.
 
cbrotherson said:
For example, Cisco's happy admission near the start of the episode that he built Cold's gun - just for the sake of exposition. Really? They spent a whole episode blaming him and building his guilt about it. Why would his character play it off like a whacky goof with so little hesitance?
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"As you know, Bob, your father, the king..."
 
ThoseDeafMutes said:
"As you know, Bob, your father, the king..."
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Ha, exactly. It was painful to watch - I get that the first episode after a mid season finale has to be accessible to new and lapsed audiences, but this episode was full of awkward clangers.

Arrow suffered from this too but nowhere as much (and to be fair, Arrow had more to deal with from a narrative point of view). And I'm scared to even think how Gotham dealt with this, given how awful and on-the-nose its dialogue usually is...
 
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