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The Formula 1 2011 Season of Double World Champion Sebastian Vettel |OT2|
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Edmond Dantès
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Not in the minds of the ravenous Hamilton fanboys who were claiming the domination and destruction of Button at the hands Hamilton. Well... they've been proven wrong.Ark said:
Foliorum Viridum
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Just finished watching the race. Sooo good.
I'm glad Vettel didn't get a penalty at the start because I thought it was a fair move. JB seemed quite pissed before the podium still, though, which is unlike him. I'm glad Button got the win because to be honest he's the only guy who has been able to rival Vettel for a lot of this season.
Nothing more needs to be said about Vettel. He's just on top at the moment and the man to beat.
I'm glad Vettel didn't get a penalty at the start because I thought it was a fair move. JB seemed quite pissed before the podium still, though, which is unlike him. I'm glad Button got the win because to be honest he's the only guy who has been able to rival Vettel for a lot of this season.
Nothing more needs to be said about Vettel. He's just on top at the moment and the man to beat.
http://www.redbullracing.com/cs/Satellite/en_INT/Red-Bull-Racing-Wallpapers/001242924965947
Red bull have put up some wallpapers to celebrate winning the title.
Red bull have put up some wallpapers to celebrate winning the title.
brotkasten
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Man, it's so hard to dislike Vettel.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w0NQeJWXGio
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s2jnf0fIEic
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w0NQeJWXGio
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s2jnf0fIEic
The schadenfreude is strong with those whom unjust carry hate for Hamilton.
The young warrior might be downcast by his recent battles, but future glory awaits and his haters shall loathe themselves on the day his enemies are defeated and the crown is placed back on his head.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=MbjRFd205qo#t=42s
The young warrior might be downcast by his recent battles, but future glory awaits and his haters shall loathe themselves on the day his enemies are defeated and the crown is placed back on his head.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=MbjRFd205qo#t=42s
I'm hoping for this next season.John_B said:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rkLZBxHWRXA
It really is.brotkasten said:
He seems like such a nice guy.
Some of us aren't too worried. Absolutely no doubt in my mind he's the greatest talent in the field. Even the haters know this, hence why they focus so much on belittling him any chance they get. People love saying he's going backwards, but I guess memories are getting shorter. 2009 was a pretty strong season given the car, and 2010 could have been his if it weren't for webber torpedoing him twice, and that 1st lap DNF in Monza. Yea, ifs and buts, but hardly evidence of someone losing the plot.John_B said:
The pendulum swings, and Hamilton will return to glory days soon. Just got to support him through the good, bad and downright ugly. A bit of luck wouldn't hurt too. As someone on another forum said, Canada was reflective of the season of both Mclaren drivers. Button is directly involved in 2 race-ending crashes for the competition, and benefits from a rare mistake by Vettel to take the win. Hamilton has his car turned into broken legos with a slight brush against the wall, while on his way to overtake his slower teammate.
He's like the opposite of Webber. But if you go by recent form and the quality of the cars, you'd have to think that the only serious challenge to Vettel would be Button, followed closely by Alonso. I don't mind that one bit... they're all fantastic, mature drivers.brotkasten said:
Wish it was easier to hate Vettel though.
Foliorum Viridum
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I don't know why you'd want to hate Vettel. Schumacher was a cunt, so he was never going to be liked. Vettel? He's a top bloke so I can accept him dominating this season. Perhaps the next year or two, as well.
If someone has to be dominating I'd rather they be a person I can like rather than someone I hated.
If someone has to be dominating I'd rather they be a person I can like rather than someone I hated.
RomanticHeroX
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It was inevitable but Vettel is an absolutely deserving champion. It'll be interesting to see how he and the team carry on for the rest of the year.
On Hamilton, I'd argue that he's been getting worse each year. Button has taken every opportunity to learn and improve over the years, and as a result he's definitely coming into the top tier. I think in many ways Hamilton's most mature season was his first, and he's been regressing since.
On Hamilton, I'd argue that he's been getting worse each year. Button has taken every opportunity to learn and improve over the years, and as a result he's definitely coming into the top tier. I think in many ways Hamilton's most mature season was his first, and he's been regressing since.
Foliorum Viridum
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I think it's BS but to be honest it just seemed like good defending to me.
It's not like Schuey nearly putting Rubens into a wall. He gave Button enough room to back out, he wasn't completely off the track and from the replays they showed it looked like Vettel swerved back more into the middle of the track the instant he saw Button back out so he could get back on.
The race to the first corner should be like that IMO. It wasn't a CLEAN move, but it wasn't too much. I can understand why Button was pissed but yeah... I didn't see too much wrong with it.
It's not like Schuey nearly putting Rubens into a wall. He gave Button enough room to back out, he wasn't completely off the track and from the replays they showed it looked like Vettel swerved back more into the middle of the track the instant he saw Button back out so he could get back on.
The race to the first corner should be like that IMO. It wasn't a CLEAN move, but it wasn't too much. I can understand why Button was pissed but yeah... I didn't see too much wrong with it.
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Are you willing to argue that the racing line is to slide over to that part of the track? Give me a break.
I'm not arguing whether it was fair or not, but the argument that he couldn't see JB.
edit: "...it looked like Vettel swerved back more into the middle of the track the instant he saw Button back out so he could get back on." You mean so that he could get back to the racing line because he forced JB to back off? Job done indeed.
If there wasn't a somewhat competitive (in theory, anyway) Australian in the field I honestly wouldn't mind. It's a strange point of view to take, but when you've had no patriotic investment in F1 for so long and then had someone come so achingly close you can't help but feel at least a little miffed that there's someone who so clearly outclasses him. In exactly the same spec car, no less.Foliorum Viridum said:
In that way, it's good that we have Ricciardo coming through as well. It feels like we have a little bit of Webber/Minardi-era as well as the Webber/RBR of now. Watch a fellow Aussie evolve as well as one who has already made the journey.
Foliorum Viridum
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So basically, you're racist.Shaneus said:
Foliorum Viridum
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Whatever, you racist.
I'm watching the Forum atm and again it's arguably more entertaining than the race. EJ stealing that phone to turn off the music was genius!
I'm watching the Forum atm and again it's arguably more entertaining than the race. EJ stealing that phone to turn off the music was genius!
Edmond Dantès
Dantès the White
I hoping Sky have an after race forum or something that resembles one. Haven't got my hopes up though.Foliorum Viridum said:
Shiiiit, going to have to log into GT5 tonight then. Never did get my X2010. Is it just without crashing or is there a time limit too?Goldrusher said:Everyone playing Gran Turismo 5 just received a free X2010 to celebrate Vettel winning his second championship at Suzuka.
And if you manage to do a lap at Suzuka without crashing, you'll get 5 million credits too.
Gareth Bale
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Didn't watch the race live as I'm a lazy fuck. Congrats to Seb, he deserves it for how consistently he's driven throughout the season. I think today was a great example of what usually happens when there are cars around him that can match his for pace. Shame it doesn't happen more often, but credit to him for not putting himself in that position too often. I can't help but feel a little disappointed that there are better drivers on the grid who aren't double world champions. But that's more because I don't think he deserved last year's World Championship. I wouldn't begrudge him a third title though. Well done Seb...
Or triple. Not a fan of Alonso at all, but you have to wonder if he will another wdc again. Lord knows he has proven his worth as a world-class driver. Wasn't there a stat revealing that Ferrari has had only 3 poles in the past 3 years?Bungieware said:
How things could have turned differently, if he behaved better despite adversity in 2007. Oh well.
Gareth Bale
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Pterion said:
Hamilton might have been the youngest ever double world champion, or he might have never won one at all.
I was talking about Alonso and a 3rd wdc with Mclaren. But good point about hammy. He really should have won in 2007, easily, but it just wasn't meant to be. I also feel Alonso should have won last year, but coulda shoulda...Bungieware said:
Interestingly, I value vettel's wdc much more last year, when he actually faced competition and still won. This year was hardly a challenge for him. Just had to show up and win. Could he do better? Heck no. Was it amazing? Not really. Does he deserve it? Yup.
Gareth Bale
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Pterion said:
I knew what you were talking about. I was just presenting an alternate scenario had things gone how they did.
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