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The Formula 1 2011 Season of Vettel Fingering the Competition |OT|

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Dead Man

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What the fuck does this even mean?
Article 3.10.1 reads: "Any bodywork more than 150mm behind the rear wheel centre line which is between 150mm and 730mm above the reference plane, and between 75mm and 355mm from the car centre line, must lie in an area when viewed from the side of the car that is situated between 150mm and 350mm behind the rear wheel centre line and between 300mm and 400mm above the reference plane. When viewed from the side of the car no longitudinal cross section may have more than one section in this area.

"Furthermore, no part of this section in contact with the external air stream may have a local concave radius of curvature smaller than 100mm.

"Once this section is defined, 'gurney' type trim tabs may be fitted to the trailing edge. When measured in any longitudinal cross section no dimension of any such trim tab may exceed 20mm."

3.10.2 states: "Other than the bodywork defined in Article 3.10.9, any bodywork behind a point lying 50mm forward of the rear wheel centre line which is more than 730mm above the reference plane, and less than 355mm from the car centre line, must lie in an area when viewed from the side of the car that is situated between the rear wheel centre line and a point 350mm behind it."

FIA needs to simplify the technical rules.
 

navanman

Crown Prince of Custom Firmware
Dead Man said:
What the fuck does this even mean?


FIA needs to simplify the technical rules.

They have a template they stick over the rear wing, kinda like nascar, and the Saubers failed it.
 

Dead Man

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navanman said:
They have a template they stick over the rear wing, kinda like nascar, and the Saubers failed it.
Yeah, I get that, but how the hell has it got to this point? Give them a safety cell to incorporate, give them a crash test, a max dimension on each axis, a fixed amount of fuel, and weigh the cars in a wind tunnel. Cars too fast? Less fuel. Cars disrupting the air too much? Lower the weight allowed at 200kph. Less rules, less grey area, more creativity.

/rant.
 

duckroll

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Here's all I have to say about today's race: Petrov = WOW, and the Lotus colors and his jumpsuit look AWESOME. So pretty. :D

Get well soon Robert! :(
 

Deadman

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Its funny, i won £20 on perez being in the points. Apparantly theyve been disqualified. Money gets paid out on the results of the race when the podium ceremony takes place. :D

Edit: But it screws my f1racemanager engine choice.
 

duckroll

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I'm disappointed with these post-race disqualifications. Unless it was a modification they hid from the FIA, done after the car was approved to race, I don't see why these things should be happening. If the car is inspected before the race, and it's good to go, the fault lies with the FIA for not carrying out a proper inspection. Shouldn't that be the case?
 
Renault are on fire. Sauber have great pace too.

Pretty average race. A few nice fights, but overall a much less exciting race than I've come to expect from Melbourne.

The rear wing system is a joke. Too restricted in when it can be used and if this race is anything to go by it then it doesn't really improve overtaking. KERS seems like a pointless addition, also. Ditch them both please.
 

navanman

Crown Prince of Custom Firmware
duckroll said:
I'm disappointed with these post-race disqualifications. Unless it was a modification they hid from the FIA, done after the car was approved to race, I don't see why these things should be happening. If the car is inspected before the race, and it's good to go, the fault lies with the FIA for not carrying out a proper inspection. Shouldn't that be the case?

I see where you are coming from but this is the F1fanatic take on it:
Lots of people tweeting me saying Sauber's wing should have been checked before the race. That kind of enforcement would be flawed.
Teams would be able to cheat by putting illegal parts on the car during the race. That's why they check afterward.
 
Did the saubers even get to use the wing to their advantage once? Pathetic ruling.

At least Petrov delivered like a hero. Awesome race for him.
 
Oh wait, the whole wing didn't comply with rules? How is that even possible.

Fuck FIA for giving more points to Massa for his pathetic race. Boo. The worst decision in F1 EVER, seems so. He-he.
 

Lach

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According to Peter Sauber, the wings were exactly the same as when they were approved at the official inspection three days ago.

The team also says, that the parts that apparently don't comply with the rules don't have any influence on the car's performance.

Pretty bummed about this, and I have no idea how much chance of success they have with their appeal.
 

Dibbz

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Pretty fun first race to watch. There were lots of mini battles between drivers because of the tyre wear going on now which is a lot more entertaining to watch.

DRS and Kers don't seem to really ad much though.

Sucks to hear Sauber got disqualified, both drivers had a great race and got some good points for their team.
 
kinda boring race.

Webber had a great car but couldn't do anything. Should have beaten Alonso when he ws on Soft and Alonso went on the Hards

Mclaren looks good now that they've stopped over thinking their designs.

Alonso had a great stint on the hards. Massa...was great in 2008 but damn its obvious he isnt in the same class as Vettel, Alonso and Hamilton. He isn't comfortable with the car so he's likely waiting for upgrades to make the car suit his style of driving instead of adjusting his style to suit the car.
 

duckroll

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navanman said:
I see where you are coming from but this is the F1fanatic take on it:

Like I said, if they put on illegal parts DURING the race. If found out after the race, they can and should be disqualified. There's no reason why they cannot check before the race to ensure the cars that start on the grid are not in violation. That could prevent misunderstandings or honest mistakes with regards to technical regulations. By doing so, if there is a violation during the race, then the disqualification after the race is all the more justified.
 

Ponti

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Aegus said:
Holy shit at epic beard/moustache McLaren guy!
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SOAP!
 

Leunam

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Really hope their result wasn't because of an advantage they might have gained from the wing changes.

On the other hand, congratulations to Petrov. I hate to take away from his achievement, but I really do wonder how Kubica would have done.
 

Dibbz

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Was posted over at Planet-F1 forums.

Nick Hiedfeld had a pretty badly damaged car during the race. Doesn't look very safe to me. No wonder he was so far back.
 

Ponti

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Dibbz said:
http://img857.imageshack.us/img857/4421/1109304779571126.jpg[img]

Was posted over at Planet-F1 forums.

Nick Hiedfeld had a pretty badly damaged car during the race. Doesn't look very safe to me. No wonder he was so far back.[/QUOTE]
That looks really bad, I'm surprised he didn't retire.
 

Dibbz

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UK guys switch over to BBC4.

Formula 1's 60th Anniversary
8:00pm - 9:00pm
BBC4
Eighteen world champions celebrate the 60th anniversary of Formula 1 at 2010's season-opening Grand Prix at the Bahrain International Circuit. Drivers from the past and the present including Jackie Stewart, who won three titles, Michael Schumacher, who currently has seven championship victories, plus Nigel Mansell and Lewis Hamilton share their racing experiences.
 

John_B

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What was the correct DNF answer for f1racemanager?

Also I was thinking if McLaren could go back to a simple exhaust system and still have the car that fast, Red Bull better hope McLaren won't get that octopus exhaust to work soon.
 

navanman

Crown Prince of Custom Firmware
Can you say we are the best?

NeoGAF top of the F1racemanager league once again after week 1. Let keep this up, I want a hat this year!!

I'm in joint 16th on 717 points.
 

AcridMeat

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navanman said:
Can you say we are the best?

NeoGAF top of the F1racemanager league once again after week 1. Let keep this up, I want a hat this year!!

I'm in joint 16th on 717 points.

Did they take into account the ban of Sauber?

What a load, FIA smh. That kind of fucked over the whole reason I picked Shell in the first place.
 

Dibbz

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mil6es said:
just finished watching the show after that about the deaths in the early years of F1, I have never been so emotional in my life bloody hell
I stuck around and watched that to. It really opened my eyes to how dangerous the sport is and how people actually grew to live with the fact that they might die in any given grand prix. Jacky Stewart done so much for the sport trying to make it safe for everyone even when people laughed at what he was trying to do.

The final scene where there was a drivers car set alight upside down and another driver stopped in the middle of a race to help him. All the other drivers just kept on racing like it was no big deal and the fire crew weren't even do anything but the other driver was trying. :(
 

Ark

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Dibbz said:
I stuck around and watched that to. It really opened my eyes to how dangerous the sport is and how people actually grew to live with the fact that they might die in any given grand prix. Jacky Stewart done so much for the sport trying to make it safe for everyone even when people laughed at what he was trying to do.

The final scene where there was a drivers car set alight upside down and another driver stopped in the middle of a race to help him. All the other drivers just kept on racing like it was no big deal and the fire crew weren't even do anything but the other driver was trying. :(

I'll have to watch this on the iPlayer, but from what I remember, was that not Senna? Or am I thinking of something else?

Thankfully we've not had a death in F1 since Senna in '94, although Hakkinen was one lucky, lucky guy to survive Adelaide in '95. Kubica surviving Canada '07 (iirc) is testament to how safe these cars are now (even though he broke his leg, could have been MUCH worse).
 

Dibbz

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Ark said:
I'll have to watch this on the iPlayer, but from what I remember, was that not Senna? Or am I thinking of something else?

Thankfully we've not had a death in F1 since Senna in '94, although Hakkinen was one lucky, lucky guy to survive Adelaide in '95. Kubica surviving Canada '07 (iirc) is testament to how safe these cars are now (even though he broke his leg, could have been MUCH worse).
No don't think it was Senna, I think it was in the 70's.

Definitely a great watch for any F1 fans.

There was an interview with Jochen Rindt's wife and man that was terrible to watch. When they showed the trophy that she had to collect on his behalf... man I can't even understand what would have been going through her at that moment :(
 

mil6es

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Dibbz said:
There was an interview with Jochen Rindt's wife and man that was terrible to watch. When they showed the trophy that she had to collect on his behalf... man I can't even understand what would have been going through her at that moment :(

she said she was on tranq's to cope with it when she accepted the trophy.
 

Orgun

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Just finished watching the F1 forum and that was much more interesting than the race :) it's great to hear from the drivers when they aren't being rushed aboot
 

AndyD

aka andydumi
Harry_Tequila said:
Joint first place! Haha, didn't expect that.

Me too!

This is probably the only time I can do this to the rest of the league considering my luck:
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Weird about KERS. I thought it was mandatory to be used this year. It will be interesting with RB because adding it will make the car heavier but add the boost. Unless they have a ton of ballast to offset it.

New HD on BBC is great. Now if they just change their graphics to widescreen optimized.
 
Im new to the F1 manager thing. I think I got 550 pts or thereabouts.

What is the strategy I should be using? Did the people at the top of the leaderboard buy vettel and were cheap with everything else?

I pretty much bought all Lotus and Force India things....
 

Shaneus

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Articate said:
Shouldn't Barichello be punished? That was a ridiculous move.
Given his performance over the weekend, I'm actually calling it that 2011 will be his last year. Great guy but his driving skills are starting to wane :(
 

Dead Man

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chicko1983 said:
Im new to the F1 manager thing. I think I got 550 pts or thereabouts.

What is the strategy I should be using? Did the people at the top of the leaderboard buy vettel and were cheap with everything else?

I pretty much bought all Lotus and Force India things....
If you check the subleague on the site you can see what everyone bought. Equal 9th for me, pretty happy with that after some dire predictions for FI.
 

isamu

OMFG HOLY MOTHER OF MARY IN HEAVEN I CANT BELIEVE IT WTF WHERE ARE MY SEDATIVES AAAAHHH
Hello. Is there a place online I can go to watch live broadcasts of the Formula 1 races?

Also, for those of us in the US, does will any of our cable channels, ESPN, etc be broadcasting any races and if so, when do they usually air?

I am new to f1 would like to start watching some races :)
 
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