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The Formula 1 2011 Season of Vettel Fingering the Competition |OT|

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If you get Speed they cover the entire season live. There are also usually a handfull of races that air on Fox during the summer. Check to see if you get Speed and if you do then you're set.
 

AcridMeat

Banned
It was fun having people in the group chat for the race. Hope to continue it for the free practice sessions and races to come.
 

Shaneus

Member
Don't expect me for many more of them. Stupid time zones.

I'll set up some macros with random quips to run during the race while I'm asleep... like the auto DJ from The Simpsons.

"Wow, I can't believe Vettel's STILL ahead!"

"KERS is overrated."

"Barichello stacked again?!?"

"Fucking hate Nando. What a cunt."
 

Zinga

Banned
I was at the Australian GP, was a great race! seriously if you never have seen F1 live you haven't lived, the sound and speed is just incredible.

Red Bull and Mclaren were looking good, but Alonso was looking formidable in the Ferrari, if they can work out what went wrong for them in qualifying for Malaysia this is going to be an interesting championship.
 

Mush

6.0
Zinga said:
I was at the Australian GP, was a great race! seriously if you never have seen F1 live you haven't lived, the sound and speed is just incredible.

Red Bull and Mclaren were looking good, but Alonso was looking formidable in the Ferrari, if they can work out what went wrong for them in qualifying for Malaysia this is going to be an interesting championship.
I've always wanted to jump across for the race, but now that I've got the money, I'm setting my sights on next year. How is it with regards to booking tickets and such, if you don't mind me asking? :)
 

operon

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First page, it extends to 3 pages so only posting the first, We're doing well lets keep it up
 
I think the adjustable rear wing should be used in more sectors, or at least available into the last corner before the straight.

It would give more time to have an effect, and also offer more risk in using it.
 

operon

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Opus Angelorum said:
I think the adjustable rear wing should be used in more sectors, or at least available into the last corner before the straight.

It would give more time to have an effect, and also offer more risk in using it.

Indeed else its no use, with one straight to use it on, the other car could use their kers to out run it
 
Opus Angelorum said:
I think the adjustable rear wing should be used in more sectors, or at least available into the last corner before the straight.

It would give more time to have an effect, and also offer more risk in using it.
Turn one in Australia has never been the greatest overtaking spot, so I imagine it'll have more of an impact in later races. Even in Malaysia it could be much more useful. I do think two places to use it would be a better system since many circuits have front and back straights, plus it would instil a bit of uncertainty in the defending driver.
 

S. L.

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AndyD said:
Me too!
Weird about KERS. I thought it was mandatory to be used this year. It will be interesting with RB because adding it will make the car heavier but add the boost. Unless they have a ton of ballast to offset it.
Nah, Virgin isn't using Kers either, maybe some others as well.

Also the lower weight limit has been raised this season, so you don't really have a general weight advantage by not running Kers.
For braking balance and weight distribution it might have some advantages thou, but it in no way they outweigh the powerboost gained by Kers
 

ashk

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operon said:
Indeed else its no use, with one straight to use it on, the other car could use their kers to out run it

Nothing's preventing them from using KERS + DRS.

I think there will be more DRS-enabled spots in the future, no one was really sure how it would impact the race and they went very conservative with specifiying this one.
 

navanman

Crown Prince of Custom Firmware
Very quiet race from Heidfeld, heard nothing of him in the race and now we can see why.
Looks like he got a sidepod full of someone's wheel.

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operon

Member
ashk said:
Nothing's preventing them from using KERS + DRS.

I think there will be more DRS-enabled spots in the future, no one was really sure how it would impact the race and they went very conservative with specifiying this one.

Never said there was it just depends on whether the perron overtaking has left enough of their lap allocation of kers to help with the overtake. The example from yesterday was button trying to overtake Massa, Massa seemed to leave enough of his kers that he could keep himself ahead of button
 

Lucius86

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navanman said:
Very quiet race from Heidfeld, heard nothing of him in the race and now we can see why.
Looks like he got a sidepod full of someone's wheel.

2hyv1tw.jpg

No wonder we heard nothing from Heidfeld, that's some serious damage. Quite astonishing it missed vital car components and he could complete the race!!
 

AndyD

aka andydumi
operon said:
Never said there was it just depends on whether the perron overtaking has left enough of their lap allocation of kers to help with the overtake. The example from yesterday was button trying to overtake Massa, Massa seemed to leave enough of his kers that he could keep himself ahead of button

In the end I think it does not provide the massive advantage some had predicted. It helps as we could see them closing in but I think Michael put it perfectly when he said it won't make overtaking easy, but it will put you in a position to be able to overtake.
 

Ark

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Lucius86 said:
No wonder we heard nothing from Heidfeld, that's some serious damage. Quite astonishing it missed vital car components and he could complete the race!!

I'd like to know why this wasn't picked up by the cameras during the race.

Do feel sorry for Heidfeld though, his first weekend and it was dreadfully unlucky.

Also, De La Rosa is going to test the new spec of Pirelli tyres at Turkey this weekend. If the McLaren can keep up it's 'low' tyre wear this season, we know why :p.

When are we going to be able to change our teams on F1racemanager too? It's 5pm on a Monday and I still can't change it :/.
 

Ponti

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Ark said:
When are we going to be able to change our teams on F1racemanager too? It's 5pm on a Monday and I still can't change it :/.
'Monday evening' they said. Who knows what time that'll be.
 

S. L.

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Ark said:
I'd like to know why this wasn't picked up by the cameras during the race.

Do feel sorry for Heidfeld though, his first weekend and it was dreadfully unlucky.

Also, De La Rosa is going to test the new spec of Pirelli tyres at Turkey this weekend. If the McLaren can keep up it's 'low' tyre wear this season, we know why :p.

When are we going to be able to change our teams on F1racemanager too? It's 5pm on a Monday and I still can't change it :/.

from f1racemanager:
As you may have heard, Sergio Perez and Kamui Kobayashi have been disqualified for 'rear wing infringements'. Because of this we had te recalculate all the scores. The Sauber drivers originally finished seventh and eighth, but have been moved to places 16 and 17. We follow the official results from Formula1.com as displayed on their website.
Sauber plans to appeal the stewards' decision, but we will consider the results final if nothing has changed by Monday evening. Then we will remove the database lock as well.

Thanks to all players who used this extended maintenance period to check out our sponsors (the ads on the maintenance page). You may want to make it a habit to visit those websites during maintenance time, when we are busy calculating scores. It makes us a little money. :)
 

Leunam

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Sauber is going to appeal their disqualification. James Key seems sure that whatever infringement they had doesn't give an advantage, but rules are rules I suppose.
 

Massa

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Dibbz said:
No don't think it was Senna, I think it was in the 70's.

Definitely a great watch for any F1 fans.

There was an interview with Jochen Rindt's wife and man that was terrible to watch. When they showed the trophy that she had to collect on his behalf... man I can't even understand what would have been going through her at that moment :(

Senna did something similar: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LLCFXlON_qw
 

DrM

Redmond's Baby
Ark said:
Also, De La Rosa is going to test the new spec of Pirelli tyres at Turkey this weekend. If the McLaren can keep up it's 'low' tyre wear this season, we know why :p.
Interesting move from Mclaren, but any team would be stupid if they missed this chance. Feedback after the test will be worth in pure gold :p
 

Ark

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DrM said:
Interesting move from Mclaren, but any team would be stupid if they missed this chance. Feedback after the test will be worth in pure gold :p

All the teams had to agree for PdRL to do the test, they all agreed that it made the most sense.
 

John_B

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Ark said:
Hamilton won't rest before his cabin trophy is big enough to require it's own mansion. Sticking with McLaren would be a good idea. They are good for 2-3 championship cars per decade.

Ark said:
All the teams had to agree for PdRL to do the test, they all agreed that it made the most sense.
I remember hearing about de la Rosa being a very technical driver that sorta speaks the same language as the engineers. An ideal test driver.
 
AndyD said:
In the end I think it does not provide the massive advantage some had predicted. It helps as we could see them closing in but I think Michael put it perfectly when he said it won't make overtaking easy, but it will put you in a position to be able to overtake.
I'm pretty sure that's exactly what it was designed to do.

And is that alt tyre colouring scheme genuine? It really is shockingly bad. All they need is a constant strip of colour somewhere on the tyre so it's easier to see at speed
 

AndyD

aka andydumi
Foliorum Viridum said:
Hahaha, you win this thread.

LOLERSKATES!!

Seriously though, a narrow strip all the way around would help. So would a curved and longer Pirelli logo, so the two blocks of text would form a circle at high speeds.
 
AndyD said:
Seriously though, a narrow strip all the way around would help. So would a curved and longer Pirelli logo, so the two blocks of text would form a circle at high speeds.
I think it's probably best (for us) to have a line on the inside edge, that way it's picked up immediately from the cockpit camera.
 

Ark

Member
So, from the first race of the season we can tell that Bridgestone must have the Adrain Newey of tyre designs ...

I had no problem spotting which tyres each driver was on, in fact it probably made the race slightly more enjoyable.
 
RomanticHeroX said:
...plus it would instil a bit of uncertainty in the defending driver.

Good point.

If DRS can only be used in one sector, the lead car can simply keep their KERS to defend. Having two or three sectors would stop this.

The FIA also need to change the rule of defending your position.

If the chasing car is clearly fast enough to overtake then I don't think the lead should be allowed to move off the racing line to defend. It's dangerous, and does not encourage overtaking as it's usually disadvantageous to even attempt it.
 

AndyD

aka andydumi
Opus Angelorum said:
Good point.

If DRS can only be used in one sector, the lead car can simply keep their KERS to defend. Having two or three sectors would stop this.

The FIA also need to change the rule of defending your position.

If the chasing car is clearly fast enough to overtake then I don't think the lead should be allowed to move off the racing line to defend. It's dangerous, and does not encourage overtaking as it's usually disadvantageous to even attempt it.

I disagree. There is no way to quantify "faster". And if you are fighting for position, since points and money are at stake in both individual and team championships, I think they should be allowed more than one move not less. Championships have been won and lost by very narrow margins.
 
Opus Angelorum said:
If the chasing car is clearly fast enough to overtake then I don't think the lead should be allowed to move off the racing line to defend. It's dangerous, and does not encourage overtaking as it's usually disadvantageous to even attempt it.

They might as well just race time trials like in rallying if they can't defend their position on track.
 
I understand the objection, I'm just trying to think of ways overtaking can be improved.

I'm frustrated that we currently rely on tyre changes for position changes. Previously, it was fuel stops.
 
Opus Angelorum said:
I understand the objection, I'm just trying to think of ways overtaking can be improved.

I'm frustrated that we currently rely on tyre changes for position changes. Previously, it was fuel stops.

All that needs to be done is to drastically reduce the cars' reliance on aerodynamics. Job done.
 

AndyD

aka andydumi
rogue_pigeon said:
All that needs to be done is to drastically reduce the cars' reliance on aerodynamics. Job done.

Right, make front wings limited just like rear wings. Otherwise I think we are seeing plenty of overtaking. At least a lot more than a few years ago. The races will never be like stock car races with hundreds of passes, simply because that's the nature and heart of the sport, tech independence and creativity balanced by reliability.
 

S. L.

Member
Opus Angelorum said:
I understand the objection, I'm just trying to think of ways overtaking can be improved.

I'm frustrated that we currently rely on tyre changes for position changes. Previously, it was fuel stops.
easy easy, make the cars much more difficult to drive, like in the olden days.
disallow any sort of electronic assistance. Shifting, clutch,brakes, etc all mechanical operated.
in exchange loose up all that regulation jungle to allow designs to be more creative
 

Shaneus

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S. L. said:
easy easy, make the cars much more difficult to drive, like in the olden days.
disallow any sort of electronic assistance. Shifting, clutch,brakes, etc all mechanical operated.
in exchange loose up all that regulation jungle to allow designs to be more creative
Isn't that what they're doing? KERS, DRS, HERP, DERP...

Maybe they should just have one type of tyre... including the wet. Ultimate excitement!
 
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