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The Formula 1 2011 Season of Vettel Fingering the Competition |OT|

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Omiee

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Shaneus said:
Exactly.

Though really, Webber's starts. He's been driving for 9 years FFS. It's so predictable it's infuriating.

Am I right in thinking that they're costing him victories over Vettel?

I would think so, he seems to be equally good at qualifying as vettel. But he always finds to lose the race because of his horrible starts.
 

Adamm

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Great drive today by Schumacher - But I really want to see him on the podium one more time before he retires again.

Awesome race today, Spa never disappoints :D
 
Shaneus said:
Exactly.

Though really, Webber's starts. He's been driving for 9 years FFS. It's so predictable it's infuriating.

Am I right in thinking that they're costing him victories over Vettel?

conspiracy theory?
 

olore

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Edmond Dantès said:
The lurkers always tend to come out when something controversial happens, then sink into oblivion once they're called out by the reasonable, well-mannered, core contributors of this thread. :/

Modus operandi of the Internets.

See you gentlemen when Monza is around
 
Edmond Dantès said:
The lurkers always tend to come out when something controversial happens, then sink into oblivion once they're called out by the reasonable, well-mannered, core contributors of this thread. :/

Except Ominee...
 

Ark

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Great to see Button and Vettel joking about last years shenanigans.

Whilst the constant winning is a tad annoying, he really is a great champion.
 

Omiee

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zomgbbqftw said:
Except Ominee...

Come on now, dont be a jerk. I already said a few pages back that i acknowledge the fact my hate for hamilton could be irritating from time to time, lets not push it though.
 
Omiee said:
Come on now, dont be a jerk. I already said a few pages back that i acknowledge the fact my hate for hamilton could be irritating from time to time, lets not push it though.

It's also the fawning over Vettel which irritates people as well. Being a superfanboy generally...
 

Omiee

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zomgbbqftw said:
It's also the fawning over Vettel which irritates people as well. Being a superfanboy generally...


Not changing that though, and there is no reason to. Love him like i loved hakinnen and kimi. Especially kimi. Because i loved kimi from his first race when he finished in the points and went on to get a chance in a big team. The same for vettel who had almost the same road to a big team. Thats the reason i like them so much, since iv been following them since they began racing.
 

Momo

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Edmond Dantès said:
The lurkers always tend to come out when something controversial happens, then sink into oblivion once they're called out by the reasonable, well-mannered, core contributors of this thread. :/
I hope you guys dont mean me! I have to divide my attention between two F1 threads and a dedicated f1 forum ._.
 
I'm behind, just watching qualifying so not read anything in this thread yet, but my God Maldonado is an utter CUNT hahaha. Just finished Q2 and I can't believe that.

DQ'd from the sport, please.
 

Shaneus

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Salacious Crumb said:
Senna's wing fell off at the start and a hefty chunk of it JUST missed buttons head and swiped his right side mirror off.
Yeah, realised that once it finally clicked what had happened.

Surprised Kobay got off so easy, too. Really think he should've been pinged for taking out Lewis.
 
So the general concensus is that people think Hamilton was at fault today?

Having seen it a number of times, I can only conclude that it was Kobayashi's fault. Hamilton was in front, was simply holding a line and Kobayashi had a look around the outside. Hamilton didn't adjust his line and had no reason to as he was ahead, and it was down to Kobayashi to make sure his front wing/wheel did not touch.
 

Momo

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Foliorum Viridum said:
I'm behind, just watching qualifying so not read anything in this thread yet, but my God Maldonado is an utter CUNT hahaha. Just finished Q2 and I can't believe that.

DQ'd from the sport, please.
Not this again please

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Osiris

I permanently banned my 6 year old daughter from using the PS4 for mistakenly sending grief reports as it's too hard to watch or talk to her
I've got this to say about Senna, he wasn't as bad as I expected him to be overall, but at the same time he fully showed off his rookie nature and still has a looong way to go to earn his place on the grid.

And that footage of Jenson losing his wing mirror at the start was downright scary!

Pazuzu9 said:
So the general concensus is that people think Hamilton was at fault today?

Having seen it a number of times, I can only conclude that it was Kobayashi's fault. Hamilton was in front, was simply holding a line and Kobayashi had a look around the outside. Hamilton didn't adjust his line and had no reason to as he was ahead, and it was down to Kobayashi to make sure his front wing/wheel did not touch.

I think is was a simple case of 50/50 as far as fault went, a pure, unadulterated racing incident that didn't require either blame nor punishment and a good call by the stewards.
 

Omiee

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Pazuzu9 said:
So the general concensus is that people think Hamilton was at fault today?

Having seen it a number of times, I can only conclude that it was Kobayashi's fault. Hamilton was in front, was simply holding a line and Kobayashi had a look around the outside. Hamilton didn't adjust his line and had no reason to as he was ahead, and it was down to Kobayashi to make sure his front wing/wheel did not touch.


Opinions were split. I think it was a racing incident, but koba could have avoided it by braking earlier.
 

Ark

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Shaneus said:
Yeah, realised that once it finally clicked what had happened.

Surprised Kobay got off so easy, too. Really think he should've been pinged for taking out Lewis.

To be honest I think it was just a racing incident, a really unfortunate incident. I think a penalty would have been too much.
 

Ponti

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Pazuzu9 said:
So the general concensus is that people think Hamilton was at fault today?
Ha, no. Koba was, but he's a bit of a messiah here so I'm not expecting people to blame him. Koba was behind and he should've lifted.

I like them both though and their style of racing. Not too bothered that no penalties were given.
 

Momo

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Pazuzu9 said:
So the general concensus is that people think Hamilton was at fault today?

Having seen it a number of times, I can only conclude that it was Kobayashi's fault. Hamilton was in front, was simply holding a line and Kobayashi had a look around the outside. Hamilton didn't adjust his line and had no reason to as he was ahead, and it was down to Kobayashi to make sure his front wing/wheel did not touch.
That's just racing, both could have been more aware of each other. Kobayashi had a better view, but there was really no way for him to know Hamilton wasn't aware of where he was. No blame to be had. Just disappointing it ended up how it did considering how masterful Alonso and Webber was ito awareness.
 

Salacious Crumb

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Ponti said:
Ha, no. Koba was, but he's a bit of a messiah here so I'm not expecting people to blame him. Koba was behind and he should've lifted.

I like them both though and their style of racing. Not too bothered that no penalties were given.

The stewards say it was a racing incident, and I tend to be on their side for most arguments, what with them having way more info about the incident than the rest of us and all that.
 
Ponti said:
Ha, no. Koba was, but he's a bit of a messiah here so I'm not expecting people to blame him. Koba was behind and he should've lifted.

I like them both though and their style of racing. Not too bothered that no penalties were given.
I agree but I think Kobayashi was damn lucky not to get at least a drive-through.
 

Orgun

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Pazuzu9 said:
So the general concensus is that people think Hamilton was at fault today?

Having seen it a number of times, I can only conclude that it was Kobayashi's fault. Hamilton was in front, was simply holding a line and Kobayashi had a look around the outside. Hamilton didn't adjust his line and had no reason to as he was ahead, and it was down to Kobayashi to make sure his front wing/wheel did not touch.
Agreed
 
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