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The Formula 1 2011 Season of Vettel Fingering the Competition |OT|
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Psychotext
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Its all fun and games until it starts smashing you against the floor.Xun said:
Also... what the hell is with the steering wheel? Did they pull it out of a truck?
I think Lauda put it perfectly. Hamilton needs to stop driving like an idiot. At least he admitted it was his mistake and not blamed everyone and everything else for once.
Oh man, it was good to see Schumi drive so well today as well; damn those Mercedes are fast on the straights.
Oh man, it was good to see Schumi drive so well today as well; damn those Mercedes are fast on the straights.
Foliorum Viridum
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Spa should not be an alternating track for fucks sake.Deadman said:
GET VALENCIA OUT INSTEAD.
Shao Kahn Brewing a Stew
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Fucking Kobayashi ruining it for everyone.
Foliorum Viridum
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Talking shit about Kobayashi is this thread is the second most frowned upon action after talking shit about Webber.
Take it elsewhere.
Take it elsewhere.
Shao Kahn Brewing a Stew
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Well yeah I know how much he is loved and I love him too but as much as his initial collision is questionable and both can be blamed for it, he does it again with Rubens.
Oh well, it was fun watching Schumi. Great rce by all drivers all around.
P.S. Take it elsewhere? Where do you want me to take it?
Oh well, it was fun watching Schumi. Great rce by all drivers all around.
P.S. Take it elsewhere? Where do you want me to take it?
Foliorum Viridum
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Didn't Rubens just say "fuck it" and go for it in that collision? Even Brundle said it was a gutsy attack with nothing to lose since he was out of the points.
Shao Kahn Brewing a Stew
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From what I gathered, Rubens said "fuck it" cause he was a few dozen meters away from the pit lane and didn't make a fuzz about it as he could just go in and change the wing.
Good for Hamilton for taking the blame, even though they can both be equally blamed for.
Sorry for being lost but what I don't gather is why they were changing tires a bit too much? Manufacturer/material changes?
Good for Hamilton for taking the blame, even though they can both be equally blamed for.
Sorry for being lost but what I don't gather is why they were changing tires a bit too much? Manufacturer/material changes?
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I just watched it again. Rubens just goes straight into the back of Koby. He did nothing wrong and there was nothing for Rubens to fuss about.
Jinjo
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Managed to make it home in time to watch the second half of the race. Shame about the Hamilton/Kobayashi incident, it was totally avoidable on both parts, but ah well that's racing. It probably whipped up quite the storm here as every Hamilton incident does... This just isn't his year.
I am truly amazed by how Vettel is always there at the front. It doesn't matter what happens at the start or in the race itself, he casually creeps his way to P1 again, every goddamn time. Nothing more than respect for that.
Button is probably in the best form of his career right now, arguably even better than the start of 2009. Shame about the failures he had, otherwise he'd probably be second to Vettel in the championship. I sincerely hope he keeps at it and takes it into 2012.
I am truly amazed by how Vettel is always there at the front. It doesn't matter what happens at the start or in the race itself, he casually creeps his way to P1 again, every goddamn time. Nothing more than respect for that.
Button is probably in the best form of his career right now, arguably even better than the start of 2009. Shame about the failures he had, otherwise he'd probably be second to Vettel in the championship. I sincerely hope he keeps at it and takes it into 2012.
It'll be pointless. He'll just be replaced by someone else who's an utter tool.
Mosley being replaced was good for the sport, but Todt is hardly the saint F1 needs.
McLaren insists 2011 campaign is not a lost cause yet.
I love how Whitmarsh also refers to and remembers the fans. It's somewhat saddening when the teams want to keep the fans happy but the FIA & FOM don't care.
Mosley being replaced was good for the sport, but Todt is hardly the saint F1 needs.
McLaren insists 2011 campaign is not a lost cause yet.
I love how Whitmarsh also refers to and remembers the fans. It's somewhat saddening when the teams want to keep the fans happy but the FIA & FOM don't care.
zomgbbqftw
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Ark said:
Stupid McLaren. It's because of this stupidity they always have poor starts to a new season and aren't competitive until the 4th or 5th race. Ferrari know a lost cause when they see one and next season they will be competing with RB from the start while McLaren will have to play catch up again.
Developing the 2009 car against Brawn GP to get one or two race victories while sacrificing a good start to the 2010 season was a bad decision and cost them valuable points. They are making the same mistakes again. Their drivers deserve better management decisions.
I disagree completely.
As an investor would you rather invest tens of millions into a team that throws in the towel half-way through the season, or would you rather invest a team that consistently pushes and gets results? I know which one I would pick.
The McLaren turn around in 2009 was incredible to say the least, if I remember rightly, Hamilton scored more points during that part of the season than anyone else on the grid.
Likewise this year, McLaren have turned a shit car into a race winning car.
At the end of the day, lack of in-season testing means developing during a championship year is somewhat nullified. Look at Ferrari's start to 2010 when they spent most of 2009 developing 2010's car, likewise with Mercedes again this year.
As an investor would you rather invest tens of millions into a team that throws in the towel half-way through the season, or would you rather invest a team that consistently pushes and gets results? I know which one I would pick.
The McLaren turn around in 2009 was incredible to say the least, if I remember rightly, Hamilton scored more points during that part of the season than anyone else on the grid.
Likewise this year, McLaren have turned a shit car into a race winning car.
At the end of the day, lack of in-season testing means developing during a championship year is somewhat nullified. Look at Ferrari's start to 2010 when they spent most of 2009 developing 2010's car, likewise with Mercedes again this year.
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zomgbbqftw said:
There is still an important fight going on for second or third in the WDC and WCC (which means a HUGE difference in earnings). I do agree that the rebuilding their car from scratch for 2011 was not a smart move. The 2010 McLaren was in no means uncompetitive at the end of the season. It put them hugely on the backfoot in testing and the start of the season, because they got it incredibly wrong. That's what lost them this championship to RBR already (taking Vettel's awesome form out of the equation for a moment). Hamilton and Button were totally right in criticising this. I do admire their fighting spirit (it's what makes them my favourite team) and it has given them the impressive statistic of them winning once every four races (statistically). They made some poor choices in designing their cars the last 3 years, but to blame their competitive drive for it is not completely fair.
Then again, I personally find the whole, ditch this year, focus on next year only idea very weak of teams. It's also not like it gave Ferrari a massive competitive edge the previous years (as in: none). But to mention it again, McLaren's drive to always compete is what has made them my favourite team.
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The ones where Vettel didn't win.Omiee said:
aside from Honda (Brawn) the ditch-the season and concentrate on next year never really worked out at all for any of the teams that tried it in recent years. especially now that you can't do in-season testing there is probably more to be learned from understanding why your car is bad this season and trying to fix it than giving up earlyzomgbbqftw said:
SunhiLegend
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brotkasten said:
Yes. Correct Answer
Foliorum Viridum
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I don't understand why Vettel winning means everything else in a race suddenly wasn't exciting.
PjotrStroganov
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I'm still waiting for my digital interactive tv with multiple selectable camera angles that was promised 15 years ago. It would be awesome to have some split screen view with one on-board and one standard race view.
Just finished watching the race, spent most of Monday avoiding Twitter, Facebook, AusGAF and NeoGAF OT so I didn't get spoiled. Such a great race again, awesome overtaking, tyre degradation and competing strategies.
This year has been a blast!
China.
Webber was a beast.
This year has been a blast!
Omiee said:
China.
Webber was a beast.
Foliorum Viridum
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When you think about it, Canada was actually pretty boring. Lots of laps behind SC, an hour downtime, etc etc. It was only a few big crashes and the last amazing burst by Button that was actually really good to watch.
It was a great experience, but a great race on the whole? Nah.
It was a great experience, but a great race on the whole? Nah.
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The first half of Spa was pretty intense just tailed off in the end.
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PjotrStroganov said:
bbc iplayer has it already, i was able to watch the 2 views live from their website.
I blame KK 100% even though hammy said he is at fault 100%, the guy who actually made the mistake.
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The red flag section was pretty cool to watch live, but is it something you'd want to watch on repeat viewings? I wouldn't. I'd skip right over it. Just like I'd fast forward all the laps behind the SC.
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I don't think so. I'd happily watch a lot of races from this year again in full. Canada wouldn't be one of them.
I thought Canada and Spa were the best this year.
Canada alone for its awesome showdown with Vettel making that slight mistake in the last lap. I watched that race with some friends who are totally not into F1 and even they liked it despite its length.
Overall I have to say pretty much every race had its moments except for Valencia. Even Barcelona had that awesome fight between Hamilton and Vettel.
Canada alone for its awesome showdown with Vettel making that slight mistake in the last lap. I watched that race with some friends who are totally not into F1 and even they liked it despite its length.
Overall I have to say pretty much every race had its moments except for Valencia. Even Barcelona had that awesome fight between Hamilton and Vettel.
Autosport.
Well, DRS should certainly make Monza more exciting than it already is
carroto said:
Barcelona has pretty much been the black horse of this season. I don't think anyone expected that insane showdown between Hamilton and Vettel.
We shall see. Sporadic rain would also make the race interesting. Dry Monza isn't that thrilling outside of the speed factor for me really.Ark said:Autosport.
Well, DRS should certainly make Monza more exciting than it already is
Barcelona has pretty much been the black horse of this season. I don't think anyone expected that insane showdown between Hamilton and Vettel.
RukusProvider
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Great race by Vettel. He did well to just keep his head down and drive fast. When he pitted early he was in a lot of traffic but picking them off quickly. The pass on Nico around the outside of Blanchemont was awesome regardless if Nico was on worn tires or not.
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I could only imagine how vastly different the outcome wouldve been if Spa was raining yesterday...
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