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The Formula 1 2011 Season of Vettel Fingering the Competition |OT|
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Foliorum Viridum
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Why are you uploading the races? Not that it's a bad thing, but if it's for people to download there's dozens of torrent sites where they can be downloaded in HD about an hour or so after the race!mblitek said:
Also, any footage of the Massa "attack" yet?
Foliorum Viridum
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Cheers.
Hammy should've laid him out.
Hammy should've laid him out.
Sleeplessnights
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Tony Fernandes was tweeting when the race was going on.
http://twitter.com/#!/tonyfernandes/status/117963057484935168
How biased is that?!
http://twitter.com/#!/tonyfernandes/status/117963057484935168
How biased is that?!
Psychotext
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Something I realised today. Thanks to the lack of refuelling you're never really going to see dominant drivers getting a boatload of fastest laps unless they're willing to take big risks when in the lead at the end of the race. Used to be that they'd get fastest laps on low fuel when pushing on tyres that were still pretty much perfect (I wont miss that), but now it's all about nursing the car at the end unless you're one of the chasing pack.
Oh, and there's no way in hell the engineers could have possibly believed Button / Vettel / Webber were making it to the end on those 3rd set of tires. What was that all about, gamesmanship?
Oh, and there's no way in hell the engineers could have possibly believed Button / Vettel / Webber were making it to the end on those 3rd set of tires. What was that all about, gamesmanship?
Foliorum Viridum said:
I think a few reasons, some people can't download torrents due to work or school or the ISP screws them over. Also some people can't be bothered with seeding & slow unpredictable downloads. I keep all the files up there, no need to use valuable disk space if you're on a netbook/laptop. Good quality if you aren't technically inclined to know what's what and I always upload new content that isn't readily available or is unique orrrrrr I don't know. I just like helping people enjoy motor racing if they previously found it a hassle!
Psychotext said:
That's true but then you get an even bigger delta between drivers&teams and like Omiee said it requires more talent to manage that weight. I do miss refueling though just for something else in the pit stop, another unknown etc.
Psychotext
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Sorry, I meant I wont miss tyres that stay pretty much perfect for the entire race.
RomanticHeroX
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Massa can't even throw a fit right. If he'd just walked up and suckerpunched Hamilton that would be the most interesting thing he's done all season.
Goldrusher
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Renault fined for communication error.
Sucks for Renault and Perez
I didn't move at all today on F1RM. I'm almost convinced I'm not going to make it into the top 50 before the end of the season
Sucks for Renault and Perez
I didn't move at all today on F1RM. I'm almost convinced I'm not going to make it into the top 50 before the end of the season
Betta Lines
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The images the BBC site has used for Massa amuse me...
Foliorum Viridum
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I'd rather it to spending 20 laps getting everyone in order. Get the SC out, clear the mess, get it off the track. Quick quick!
Button actually said he could have finished on those tyres and was surprised when they called him in for the last pit stop. If the guys behind him hadn't put fresh tyres on then he probably would have stayed out and hoped for Vettel's tyres to drop off first.Psychotext said:
It caused Vettel to have a 10s lead over Button as soon as the safety car went in. It would have been a much more interesting battle at the end if they still had the old safety car rules and Button was 2s behind Vettel instead of 12s. The reason they changed the rules though is because it was too dangerous having back markers race around the track to unlap themselves.S. L. said:
RomanticHeroX
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Some people can get a lucky break with a well-timed Safety Car, but it's not something that can be planned for (unless you're Flav and have a driver whose safety you have no concern for) and it affects everyone equally. Putting people at risk by having backmarkers race through completely negates what the SC is there to do in the first place.
They don't have to let them unlap themselves.
I just want p1 to race p2, not p2 needing to get through p18, p19, and p20 to reach p1. Yes there are safety requirements but the racing would be better with every car fighting for position right away, instead of having to wait for laps and laps to get them out of the way (while the car in front builds an insane lead)
I just want p1 to race p2, not p2 needing to get through p18, p19, and p20 to reach p1. Yes there are safety requirements but the racing would be better with every car fighting for position right away, instead of having to wait for laps and laps to get them out of the way (while the car in front builds an insane lead)
Betta Lines
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How would you get p18/19/20 back to the correct position without letting them unlap themselves?rhfb said:
Psychotext
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I don't see why track position should change at all. Why penalise some and reward others? It's completely arbitrary.
The car in front has already passed the backmarkers who will be in the way, that the next car then has to do it is only fair.
The car in front has already passed the backmarkers who will be in the way, that the next car then has to do it is only fair.
Foliorum Viridum
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I just watched the F1 Forum and it's the perfect proof of why Sky will never match what the BBC have. As well as the wonderful in-depth and beautiful pieces of film they make, you have Eddie chatting with the fans, pouring champagne over Jake, the duo grabbing everyone they can find to interview and great banter throughout.
The F1 Forum is often more enjoyable than the races in some ways. It'll be sad to have it for only half the races next year, if we even get that.
The F1 Forum is often more enjoyable than the races in some ways. It'll be sad to have it for only half the races next year, if we even get that.
RomanticHeroX
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Even with waved blues, lapping cars always takes time and slows down the higher placed car. I hadn't considered that but letting backmarkers be lapped under SC conditions definitely does give an advantage that the cars ahead didn't have. You already cut away whatever lead may have been built when the SC is deployed, so the rules as they are are about as fair as they can be.
Psychotext
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You mean just like the blue flag the next car in line will get after the restart? The major difference being that most of the time after a safety car restart a backmarker will know that there's a front runner right behind them and will get out of the way pretty quickly.rhfb said:
brotkasten
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I agree, but Massa and Hamilton have a history, iirc.AndyD said:
Sleeplessnights
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ANDY_098 said:
I meant towards his team, I was joking.
Templar Wizard
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hammy caused an AVOIDABLE collosion and wrecked Massa's race.
he deserved his DT, no doubts about it, the move was never going to work, he should really know better.
but the main problem with Hammy this year is that he isnt learning. He could EASILY be 2nd in the championship if he engaged his brain.
in parc ferme he could have said 'sorry racing incident' to massa, but he just walked away from him, and then an enraged massa made a comment to him when he saw him in the media pit.
I expect another bogus Hammy tweet 'sorry to FM, i respect you guy' sometime this week.
he deserved his DT, no doubts about it, the move was never going to work, he should really know better.
but the main problem with Hammy this year is that he isnt learning. He could EASILY be 2nd in the championship if he engaged his brain.
in parc ferme he could have said 'sorry racing incident' to massa, but he just walked away from him, and then an enraged massa made a comment to him when he saw him in the media pit.
I expect another bogus Hammy tweet 'sorry to FM, i respect you guy' sometime this week.
RomanticHeroX
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I could see the argument on either side of issuing a penalty, but ultimately that was a pretty benign racing incident. Hamilton did turn in, but he misjudged it by such a small fraction. I think he either lost reference to the position of his own wing or thought that Massa would've accelerated slightly earlier than he did, and just barely clipped him. It's also just bad luck that Massa got a puncture from it, since we've seen tires hold up to far worse this season. Hamilton has certainly done some dumb things this year, but for the most part he seemed to have his head on straight this race.
Shao Kahn Brewing a Stew
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Just Finished watching the race.
1. McLaren = God Tier. Good god, they are unstoppable. Too bad, the push is a bit too late.
2. LOL Ferrari. Massa, you're such a crybaby. Hamilton did better than you in every way possible and had bigger problems than you can ever imagine.
3. Good going Vettel. Thread title stays true to the series. Vettel: not a fluke.
4. Schumi, you magnificent bastard! Keep racing the way you are!
1. McLaren = God Tier. Good god, they are unstoppable. Too bad, the push is a bit too late.
2. LOL Ferrari. Massa, you're such a crybaby. Hamilton did better than you in every way possible and had bigger problems than you can ever imagine.
3. Good going Vettel. Thread title stays true to the series. Vettel: not a fluke.
4. Schumi, you magnificent bastard! Keep racing the way you are!
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