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The Formula 1 2011 Season of Vettel Fingering the Competition |OT|
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Some spanish media are reporting that Rory Bryne is coming back for more active role at Ferrari.
But i do not think that he could make drastic difference - there is no unlimited testing like in his golden years at Ferrari, which proved to be their huge strength. Plus their relationship with Bridgestone, Shell and other companies in that time and of course, FIA
But i do not think that he could make drastic difference - there is no unlimited testing like in his golden years at Ferrari, which proved to be their huge strength. Plus their relationship with Bridgestone, Shell and other companies in that time and of course, FIA
How could he not make a difference, not saying total dominance like before, but I'm sure he could improve where there are right nowDrM said:Some spanish media are reporting that Rory Bryne is coming back for more active role at Ferrari.
But i do not think that he could make drastic difference - there is no unlimited testing like in his golden years at Ferrari, which proved to be their huge strength. Plus their relationship with Bridgestone, Shell and other companies in that time and of course, FIA
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Well, it's a step in the right direction. It's a shame that Brawn won't go back.DrM said:Some spanish media are reporting that Rory Bryne is coming back for more active role at Ferrari.
But i do not think that he could make drastic difference - there is no unlimited testing like in his golden years at Ferrari, which proved to be their huge strength. Plus their relationship with Bridgestone, Shell and other companies in that time and of course, FIA
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It's not so clear cut. He's definitely from the era where you could throw everything at a car and see what sticks. Now if you don't get it right very quickly you can easily find yourself going backwards.operon said:
You missed word 'drastic'. Also, he was consulting for Ferrari for several years right now and i think that he is not some kind of 'magic savior' that some Ferrari fans think he is.operon said:
They could test some parts to death in his golden years, but now, this is not so simple. FIA will not agree on unlimited testing due to cost cutting in F1.
I once read someone say that Newey is the man to have when the regulations are frequently changing (i.e. now) and Byrne is the man to have when the regulations stagnate and you can actually test the cars.
I don't know how much truth is in there, I never followed the back-stage shenanigans until only a few years ago. Regardless, Bryne was the final piece in the holy-trinity that was Brawn, Schumacher and Bryne.
I don't know how much truth is in there, I never followed the back-stage shenanigans until only a few years ago. Regardless, Bryne was the final piece in the holy-trinity that was Brawn, Schumacher and Bryne.
Agreed... would love to see some Japanese entries in the near future. If not mechanically, then at least by team base/ownership (though one would think that they go hand in hand).Ark said:
Just bought that app, too.
PS. Is it possible that KK is the nicest guy in Formula 1 today? That stuff he'd done even before the earthquakes was amazing.
And do we know if that article was translated or does he speak that well IRL?
Edmond Dantès
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Troll Mode on.DrM said:Some spanish media are reporting that Rory Bryne is coming back for more active role at Ferrari.
But i do not think that he could make drastic difference - there is no unlimited testing like in his golden years at Ferrari, which proved to be their huge strength. Plus their relationship with Bridgestone, Shell and other companies in that time and of course, FIA
There's also the technical veto that Ferrari had during those years that played a part in their dominance.
Troll mode off.
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Totally agree, Sky's digital coverage took a rather large dump on ITV's coverage back then and in terms of features it far surpasses what the BBC have to offer right now. The only thing in BBC's favour is the forum and the commentators. Jake's expendable and Eddie's comic relief. If Sky do it right they'll be the new standard bearers, just as the BBC became when they took the mantle from ITV.avaya said:
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Mr Dantès needs a rest.Shaneus said:
Edmond Dantès
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This is better, much more up my alley.
Edmond Dantès
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Edmond Dantès
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Lewis in Bangalore.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Vqe7gRJKOY
Cool crowd, certainly more enthusiastic than some of the current crowds.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Vqe7gRJKOY
Cool crowd, certainly more enthusiastic than some of the current crowds.
Edmond Dantès
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High praise from Lewis for Button.
http://www.gpupdate.net/en/f1-news/268913/hamilton-button-has-been-better-in-2011/
http://www.gpupdate.net/en/f1-news/268913/hamilton-button-has-been-better-in-2011/
So, F1-GAF, Prost or Brabham stands?
On one hand, I think I'd prefer Prost purely because you can see the cars for the most amount of time and there may be better chances of overtaking there, but at turn 1 there's more likely to be a bit more action, though the cars do go around faster so there's not quite as much to see.
On one hand, I think I'd prefer Prost purely because you can see the cars for the most amount of time and there may be better chances of overtaking there, but at turn 1 there's more likely to be a bit more action, though the cars do go around faster so there's not quite as much to see.
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Prost.Shaneus said:So, F1-GAF, Prost or Brabham stands?
On one hand, I think I'd prefer Prost purely because you can see the cars for the most amount of time and there may be better chances of overtaking there, but at turn 1 there's more likely to be a bit more action, though the cars do go around faster so there's not quite as much to see.
Edmond Dantès
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Vettel passes Kimi in all-time winners list.
Top twenty.
Michael Schumacher 91
Alain Prost 51
Ayrton Senna 41
Nigel Mansell 31
Jackie Stewart 27
Fernando Alonso 27
Jim Clark 25
Niki Lauda 25
Juan Manuel Fangio 24
Nelson Piquet 23
Damon Hill 22
Mika Häkkinen 20
Sebastian Vettel 19
Kimi Räikkönen 18
Stirling Moss 16
Lewis Hamilton 16
Jack Brabham 14
Graham Hill 14
Emerson Fittipaldi 14
Alberto Ascari 13
I thought know one would surpass Michael's 91 wins in my lifetime a few years ago, but it's looking ever increasingly likely now. This is history in the making right here folks, the next great, who'll be remembered throughout the ages alongside Senna, Prost, Clark, Fangio, Schumacher and Ascari and co.
http://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/f1-vettel-climbing-all-time-formula-one-winner-s-list-2/
Top twenty.
Michael Schumacher 91
Alain Prost 51
Ayrton Senna 41
Nigel Mansell 31
Jackie Stewart 27
Fernando Alonso 27
Jim Clark 25
Niki Lauda 25
Juan Manuel Fangio 24
Nelson Piquet 23
Damon Hill 22
Mika Häkkinen 20
Sebastian Vettel 19
Kimi Räikkönen 18
Stirling Moss 16
Lewis Hamilton 16
Jack Brabham 14
Graham Hill 14
Emerson Fittipaldi 14
Alberto Ascari 13
I thought know one would surpass Michael's 91 wins in my lifetime a few years ago, but it's looking ever increasingly likely now. This is history in the making right here folks, the next great, who'll be remembered throughout the ages alongside Senna, Prost, Clark, Fangio, Schumacher and Ascari and co.
Prost tickets bought! Didn't get the premium seats (didn't realise tickets went on sale so early... in July ffs!) but only a few rows from them which I'm happy with.
If you want to keep an eye out for my brother and I, check out row P, seats 7 and 8. Such good viewing (I hope!).
If you want to keep an eye out for my brother and I, check out row P, seats 7 and 8. Such good viewing (I hope!).
Yes! Probably on one of the first two days, though. I predict that glue will be on my seat for qualis and on race day.jambo said:
With Button, I have a really good feeling that McLaren will really step the fuck up next year. Hopefully to the point where at least one of them will be stepping up to Vettel (and I hope, Webber as Vettel's equal in 2012) to give RBR a good run for their money.Adamm said:
In the very least, they've really been the only team to provide a steady form of excitement and unpredictability in 2011 and I expect them to carry that on from the first race in 2012 (as opposed to taking them a bit to find their feet this year).
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Edmond Dantès
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You can bet that Red Bull will be competitive next season even though the others may well be somewhat closer, but then you have to take into account the coming technical changes.Adamm said:
Newey had traditionally been on the ball when new regulations come into effect, and Ferrari and McLaren were caught napping the last time this happened. They'll certainly be trying their damnedest to prevent this happening again, but I'm not so sure. Newey may well design another rocket ship and we could be seeing the same trend again.
Although the driver line-ups could be significantly different in this new era of F1 and Vettel may have a reinvigorated Lewis by his side (if McLaren continue to falter) which will makes things far more difficult.
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That was an odd year as Brawn was much better than redbull for the first half & red bull was much better than the Brawn the 2nd half. So its hard to compare how he competes with equal cars
Next year there are few Technical changes (apart from off-throttle blown diffusers)Edmond Dantès said:
So it will be interesting to if its possible for Red Bull to get any better than they are at the moment, or will it be a case of other cars catching up.
But the engine changes will be interesting to see
Shaneus said:So, F1-GAF, Prost or Brabham stands?
On one hand, I think I'd prefer Prost purely because you can see the cars for the most amount of time and there may be better chances of overtaking there, but at turn 1 there's more likely to be a bit more action, though the cars do go around faster so there's not quite as much to see.
didn't realize there were so little stands around the track!
I think that RBR will be a car to beat until new engine rules kicks in.
I do hope that Mclaren get their shit together and made a killer car from the start and not some wierd ass experimental thing - EBD saved their asses this year, otherwise they would be somewhere near Mercedes right now.
I do hope that Mclaren get their shit together and made a killer car from the start and not some wierd ass experimental thing - EBD saved their asses this year, otherwise they would be somewhere near Mercedes right now.
Xun said:
Their partnership with MBHPE runs until 2015 and I'm pretty sure someone from MRL has said recently that they will stay with them until then at least.
http://en.espnf1.com/mclaren/motorsport/story/59336.html
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DrM said:
You missed this video of Lewis in Bangalore, it's a lot better plus you get to see Lewis get stuck and pushed by mere mortals! I wouldn't wash my hands after touching that sweet, sweet carbon fibre
http://youtu.be/3nZj1jC3fbg
Ed: I was going to post a picture of Bart Simpson's hand when he doesn't wash it. But, I had a momentary lapse in judgment and searched for "bart simpson dirty." My eyes!
http://youtu.be/3nZj1jC3fbg
Ed: I was going to post a picture of Bart Simpson's hand when he doesn't wash it. But, I had a momentary lapse in judgment and searched for "bart simpson dirty." My eyes!
Word of advice to anyone who watches this video, turn off your audio first.mblitek said:You missed this video of Lewis in Bangalore, it's a lot better plus you get to see Lewis get stuck and pushed by mere mortals! I wouldn't wash my hands after touching that sweet, sweet carbon fibre
http://youtu.be/3nZj1jC3fbg
Ed: I was going to post a picture of Bart Simpson's hand when he doesn't wash it. But, I had a momentary lapse in judgment and searched for "bart simpson dirty." My eyes!
Fucking thing is loud man.
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At least Rubens is likeable. One of the nicest blokes in F1.DrM said:
Massa is just a boring, whiny bitch.
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