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[Septimius]

Bernie is so whacky, I have no doubt that he was just some looney old man taking something out of context, regarding Michael quitting.

I hope he says, though. So, so much. If he can remain confident that Mercedes will develop the car in the right direction, and he can get to have some wins before he quits, it'd be fantastic. If he ended up fighting for the driver's championship, I'm sure he'd flame up so much as to stay even in 2014. Hope spring's eternal.

 

[Ark]

Maldonado always reminds me of Montoya. He'd do just as well in NASCAR.

At least Montoya had some skill.

 

[Adam Scott Aukerman]

Bernie is so whacky, I have no doubt that he was just some looney old man taking something out of context, regarding Michael quitting.

If anything, knowing Bernie, it would more likely be an indication that Mercedes are shutting up shop at the end of this year a la Honda.

 

[brotkasten]

At least Montoya had some skill.

He was also more entertaining to watch (and listen to).
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MLuaWsSNgYk

 

[olore]

Maldonado always reminds me of Montoya. He'd do just as well in NASCAR.

They use hammers to fix cars in NASCAR, perhaps fitting for a blunt driver as Pastor. And JPM

 

[Dead Man]

Seriously, Webber needs to stop getting dicked around with pit strategies. Extra-stoppers never fucking work and frustrate the living shit out of me.


No Alonso. Poor Webber finish vs Vettel.

Yeah. Webber just looked slow through bus stop too, Vettels line was much more agressive on passes.

 

[brotkasten]

Fan: "We want all races back on the BBC!"
Eddie: "Yeah, we all want them back."
Reality: "lol, no."

 

[Milchjon]

Looks like I missed a great race. Love the results.

 

[Deadman]

lol lauda saying he would ban grosjean for 2 races

 

[brotkasten]

lol, Eddie just crashed RTL's coverage and grabbed Lauda. BBC always wins.

 

[Dilly]

He deserves a harsh penalty.

Not the first time this year he's been an idiot.

 

[bud23]

Maldonado always reminds me of Montoya. He'd do just as well in NASCAR.

Imo you can´t compare. Montoya was a real contender for the title, Maldonado can´t even dream with win a race.

 

[Dilly]

Imo you can´t compare. Montoya was a real contender for the title, Maldonado can´t even dream with win a race.

He already won a race.

 

[kiyomi]

Even if he had a good start he might have got taken out by the crash anyway.

Yeah, it could've been even worse (ala Perez), but still, if he had made an equal start to Button he might've been able to avoid it.

 

[Deadman]

naughty vettel swearing on tv

 

[nny]

Vettel "Start was shit...sorry, start was poor"

 

[Dutch Gronk]

So will the Frenchman get a penalty?

 

[brotkasten]

BBC once again crashing into the Sky crew.

And Garry is awesome. Massa was the 3rd fastest car on track, which is quite the surprise.

 

[pants]

Is the consensus Grosjean was to blame for the incident at the start?

 

[nny]

Is the consensus Grosjean was to blame for the incident at the start?

Yep. He hit Lewis and then all hell broke loose.

 

[brotkasten]

Is the consensus Grosjean was to blame for the incident at the start?

Yes, absolutely.

Apparently, Grosjean was involved in 7 start accidents out of 12 races.

 

[Ark]

Apparently, Grosjean was involved in 7 start accidents out of 12 races.

If Maldonado wasn't racing this year, Grojean would be getting all of our hate.

 

[Dilly]

If Maldonado wasn't racing this year, Grojean would be getting all of our hate.

Pretty much.

He isn't doing much better than Maldonado in that regard though. Yet, he doesn't even get a punishment for what he did today.

 

[pants]

I havent seen a proper replay yet, the entire thing looked weird as crap to me. When Grosjean went flying at Alonso's head I went numb for a while and wasnt really absorbing any information for a while after

 

[Nolan.]

I just want to hug Monisha poor Sauber but she's not too sad

I havent seen a proper replay yet, the entire thing looked weird as crap to me. When Grosjean went flying at Alonso's head I went numb for a while and wasnt really absorbing any information for a while after

The Sounds are pretty horrific when Lewis comes past then Grojean smacks right into ALonso it really is a 'boom'

 

[AndyD]

Yes, absolutely.

Apparently, Grosjean was involved in 7 start accidents out of 12 races.

Oh wow.


Very good race, aside from the start drama. Very much enjoyed it. I love the camera angle at the top of Eau Rouge, it really gave a sense of the height differential in the track.

And Speed's coverage was better, and by that I mean commercial breaks were shorter than usual. Which is a step forward.

 

[pants]

On second thought, I dont really want to see that replay. If Grosjean was clearly at fault and caused a dangerous situation I hope Pastor Maldonado gets banned.

 

[ramparter]

Alonso unlucky once again. Vettel was amazing, if it was any other driver people would praise his skill. Hamilton could still avoid the incident, just because it's the others driver's fault doesn't mean there's nothing you can do to save yourself. Massa passed Webber!!

 

[Dilly]

On second thought, I dont really want to see that replay. If Grosjean was clearly at fault and caused a dangerous situation I hope Pastor Maldonado gets banned.

wat

 

[Ark]

Alonso unlucky once again. Vettel was amazing, if it was any other driver people would praise his skill. Hamilton could still avoid the incident, just because it's the others driver's fault doesn't mean there's nothing you can do to save yourself. Massa passed Webber!!

/sigh

 

[Dilly]

Alonso unlucky once again. Vettel was amazing, if it was any other driver people would praise his skill. Hamilton could still avoid the incident, just because it's the others driver's fault doesn't mean there's nothing you can do to save yourself. Massa passed Webber!!

This statement is plain wrong.

 

[pants]

wat

It's a joke lol

If you go back over my post history in this thread I always find a way of pinning it on Maldonado

 

[Myoclonic Jerk]

I loved the race and the result given what happened. Great fight between Kimi and Schumi too

The crowd went crazy for Kimi the presenter had to wait for them to calm down.. They're hailing their king

Maldonado and Grosjean are useless fucks, who cares if they can put an odd fast lap here or there, that doesn't make them F1 worthy

 

[Myoclonic Jerk]

It's a joke lol

If you go back over my post history in this thread I always find a way of pinning it on Maldonado

On prupose

Also check this picture from Lotus' twitter feed before the start of the race

 

[AAequal]

I loved the race and the result given what happened. Great fight between Kimi and Schumi too

The crowd went crazy for Kimi the presenter had to wait for them to calm down.. They're hailing their king

Maldonado and Grosjean are useless fucks, who cares if they can put an odd fast lap here or there, that doesn't make them F1 worthy

Too bad the tire selection didn't work for Kimi. He should have been second today ;(

 

[pants]

Maldonado and Grosjean are useless fucks, who cares if they can put an odd fast lap here or there, that doesn't make them F1 worthy

Sadly Maldonado has money behind him, not sure about Grosjean, he's never really rang my alarm bells till today.

 

[Myoclonic Jerk]

Too bad the tire selection didn't work for Kimi. He should have been second today ;(

I think even if he was allowed to run only hards he would've came out third at best. Vettel and Button were pacing themselves at the last 10 laps so it wasn't a small gap and it could've easily been bigger if those 2 wanted it to be.

Lotus' straightline speed was abysmal, even Kimi said so when he was talking to Vettel, his overtakes had to be done before or after the DRS zone.

Sadly Maldonado has money behind him, not sure about Grosjean, he's never really rang my alarm bells till today.

Grosjean has Eric Boullier behind him. If you don't know he's his Manager that's why he got the seat from Petrov

 

[Dutch Gronk]

Pretty much.

He isn't doing much better than Maldonado in that regard though. Yet, he doesn't even get a punishment for what he did today.

How can he not get punished for today?

 

[RomanticHeroX]

At least Grosjean doesn't seem to do it on prupose. That's why Maldonado deserves all the hate.

 

[SCHUEY F1]

Good race. Fucking Grosjean though. I was hoping Alonso could keep his point streak going. Kimi's pass at Eau Rouge was great.

 

[Juicy Bob]

Grosjean receives one race ban.

According to Autosport's Jon Noble.

 

[Ark]

How can he not get punished for today?

Probably for the same reason that Petrov/Hulkenberg didn't get penalised for the start of Suzuka 2010.

Grosjean receives one race ban.

Now you're all being too extreme. It would be folly to hand Grojean a race ban when Maldonado has only received time/grid drop penalties.

EDIT: Read that as Grojean deserves a race ban, my bad. It's fine, I agree.

 

[Adam Scott Aukerman]

Grosjean receives one race ban.

A curiously harsh penalty.

 

[AndyD]

Sadly Maldonado has money behind him, not sure about Grosjean, he's never really rang my alarm bells till today.

He also has a victory this year, which goes a long way in any contract negotiations.

 

[Dutch Gronk]

Grosjean receives one race ban.

According to Autosport's Jon Noble.

Justice.

 

[Xun]

Although Grosjean was clearly in the wrong, I do think many here are being a bit too extreme.

He should definitely be penalised though.

 

[AndyD]

A curiously harsh penalty.

Yep. Then again, I think these types of accidents are incredibly dangerous and the marshalls want them stopped in the future.

Michael and Rubens almost had a similar accident in 2010 Hungary.
http://www.talksport.co.uk/sports-news/f1/8021/schumacher-sends-text-apology-barrichello

At those speeds you have to leave room or it can be disastrous as we saw today.

 

[brotkasten]

Grosjean receives one race ban.

According to Autosport's Jon Noble.

Yep.

Romain Grosjean has been banned from starting next weekend’s Italian Grand Prix after causing the first corner crash at Spa. The Franco-Swiss, who triggered a similar incident in Monaco, started the carnage by squeezing Lewis Hamilton onto the grass.

Full report to follow.

And as Monza is such a wonderful track and event, the punishment will be even bigger.

 

[pants]

Uh, race ban? Was just kidding before in no way does he deserve a race ban when compared to other incidents this year.

 

[Nolan.]

I think he deserves the 1 race ban tbh though do feel for him. He seems a nice guy but come on he's just making silly mistakes and messing up other people's championship in the process. Will be interesting in future to see how they handle Maldonado because there is someone who I feel has really gotten off lightly on most of his visits to the stewards.