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The Formula 1 2012 Season |OT2| WHY AREN'T YOU WATCHING THIS SEASON?!
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Foliorum Viridum
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You take away open cockpits and you take away a large part of what makes F1 so special.
Sleeplessnights
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You also run into the potential of taking away a life.
KillerMan91
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Yep. Of course it's important to improve the safety of F1 all the time but let's not go to ridiculous levels. It's already kinda amazing how safe F1 is compared to 30 years ago when pretty much every year someone died. F1 will have its risks always and drivers know that and still want to drive.
Finding ways of protecting driver's heads is logical and important, I feel.
The FIA will come up with a measure to do this, will implement it, some people will voice complaints but after a while people will get used to it and we'll carry on as usual. The only thing that will change is that the sport will simply be safer.
The FIA will come up with a measure to do this, will implement it, some people will voice complaints but after a while people will get used to it and we'll carry on as usual. The only thing that will change is that the sport will simply be safer.
Foliorum Viridum
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The same is true with closed cockpits (eg a turned over car, or a jammed cockpit).
Driver safety is of course important and I'm glad that nobody is dying in the sport these days. With that said, to make the sport super safe they could all drive at 70mph. That would be as much of a drastic and negative change to me as closing the cockpits of the cars. It just wouldn't be the same sport.
It's the more likely solution. The FIA and TWG have been working on canopies and what are effectively roll cages for the cockpit in place of a canopy. Personally I'd rather see canopies.
Either way, Formula 1 has to stop being an open-cockpit sport. It's inevitable, in the last four years we've had seriously scary crashes involving driver's heads. Massa in 2009, Schumacher and Liuzzi in 2010 and Alonso last weekend.
Canopies and wheel-covers would make the cars quicker anyway.
Except this whole open wheels thing they still would have got going...
I think cockpits or roll cages will be interesting to see. Will they be a standard for all cars, or will we see them being used as part of the aerodynamic setup?
Also how will it effect getting out of the car, drivers have to be able to get out of the car in 5 seconds or something like that
Or this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jgHh4V0WYCs
Also how will it effect getting out of the car, drivers have to be able to get out of the car in 5 seconds or something like that
Or this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jgHh4V0WYCs
Sleeplessnights
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A canopy would be one step closer to the "ultimate" F1 car. They could eject the canopy to the back to exit out quickly.
Jinjo
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Dunno about closed cockpits, not cause of "it's not the same sport ohnoes", cause when it comes to safety I'm not the one driving these things. Just ya know, what if something happens (a fire, accident) and the cockpit gets jammed shut....
Maybe I'd just rather have my head lobbed off (not that something like that'll happen with how drivers are so low in the car) instead of slowly bleeding/burning to death while emergency services can't get to me or get there too late and I can't get out of this damn cockpit.
Maybe I'd just rather have my head lobbed off (not that something like that'll happen with how drivers are so low in the car) instead of slowly bleeding/burning to death while emergency services can't get to me or get there too late and I can't get out of this damn cockpit.
Couldn't be any more different.
A lot of people seem to fail to realise this.
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From Barrichello's Twitter. I really do miss the guy in F1, Maldonado or Senna will never be anything close to what Barrichello was.
People are clinging to the open wheel & cockpit formula too much. It took the death of Dan Wheldon for Indycar to introduce rear-wheel covers, is F1 going to wait for another death before a necessary safety change is brought in?
Adam Scott Aukerman
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See, this is exactly what Mclaren should do in this kind of situation. Takes the edge off.
Sleeplessnights
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"We're going to be providing a whoopie cushion with every new purchase of the MP4-12C to prove that McLaren can have some fun" was one of the saddest things I heard Ron Dennis say.
Myoclonic Jerk
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It'll probably be Ambrosio right?
Myoclonic Jerk
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Yep.
Moved up 7 places too. Thought changing from Maldonado to Schumacher was going to backfire but then Pastor did his usual crazy shit again and Schumi had a decent race in the Merc.
Goldrusher
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Psychotext
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It's worth keeping in mind that he already had the new rear wing (used in FP3)... he was shit with it and HE / HIS ENGINEERS decided to go back to the old wing, before whining on twitter about not having the low downforce setup.
The setup simply didn't suit him as well as it did Button... which has been the case (or vice versa) for almost every race this year. McLaren seem incapable of coming up with a car which works for both of them.
The setup simply didn't suit him as well as it did Button... which has been the case (or vice versa) for almost every race this year. McLaren seem incapable of coming up with a car which works for both of them.
Let's hope so. It would be a real shame to take away the Italian Grand Prix from a semi-Italian driver.
And De Villota lost an eye this year.
a canopy would probably not have helped in that case, roll bars would tho
it wouldnt, people are scaremongering, its an open wheel sport, not open cockpit, as long as those wheels stay vunerable out in the open, its f1, if anything, canopies bring f1 closer to the future, and could look fecking amazesauce
http://www.f1revs.com/2012/09/bbc-sky-belgian-gp-viewing-figures.html
thats 0.6m down on last years viewers
brotkasten
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The canopy that was tested by the FIA seems stable enough for an impact like that.
Is that 330,000 people watching in all of the UK?
On Sky yes, with a further 2.77m on BBC on average.
So is Sky making any money off their purchase?
The truck would have suffered more damage than the canopy.
moojito
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What's quite interesting regarding the mclaren wing situation is some commentator (gary anderson maybe) a few weeks ago during the button poor form period said that at the time they had a car suiting hamilton which button couldn't drive well. He said if they had the opposite situation and they had a car suited to button, hamilton had enough raw talent to drive around that. I guess we'll never know how it ended up in the race, but it sure didn't seem to be heading that way.
because of the holiday i just got the time to watch the race.
damnn what an exicitng start. i know the sport can be dangerous some times but i really hope they dont introduce a cockpit.
Very nice win for button, he def deserves it. Pretty good performance from vettel.
And loldonado is such stupid.
damnn what an exicitng start. i know the sport can be dangerous some times but i really hope they dont introduce a cockpit.
Very nice win for button, he def deserves it. Pretty good performance from vettel.
And loldonado is such stupid.
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