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[Omiee]

Lewis out and webber tenth. What a shit weekend.

Has anyone here realised the fact that once webber signed that red bull contract it has been downhill ever since?

He won in germany if im not mistaken.

 

[Dilly]

Wait, BBC coverage is done already,

 

[brotkasten]

Lewis out and webber tenth. What a shit weekend.

Has anyone here realised the fact that once webber signed that red bull contract it has been downhill ever since?

He signed for a #2 position and he's doing a great job with that.

 

[NHale]

I think Alonso just called Vettel retarded.

At least he didn't complained about the Sling chicken.

EDIT: Alonso looks mad.

 

[Omiee]

Wait, BBC coverage is done already,

Red button is going on now.

 

[pants]

I closed the thread just before schumacher decided to pole Verge, I trust there was no shenanigans around here?

 

[ramparter]

I wish Button hadn't screwed so much for so many races, he would be a serious contender for the championship right now.

 

[Grim1ock]

He won in germany if im not mistaken.

no. Webber last win was silverstone. He signed the contract 2 days later and then all of sudden his season implodes

 

[Ark]

4 retirements for Hamilton this season. You can't win championships like that.

It could have been a fairly comfortable WDC for him, but it's not going to happen.

He should have been leading the WDC all year if not for McLaren's stupidity.

It's Alonso's to lose now, unless Hamilton wins in Suzuka with a poor scoring Vettel and Alonso, I can't see him winning this. It feels like 2010 all over again.

 

[CurlySaysX]

Sebastian retarded!

 

[jey_16]

Please don't remind me of 2010, still haven't watched the end of that race or even the post race, it still hurts.

I remember just shouting at the TV......I don't think I could go through that again

 

[Foliorum Viridum]

Wait when did Alonso say that? I missed that...

 

[Jensen]

Is the forum on the red button right now? I can only see live cycling

 

[brotkasten]

He should have been leading the WDC all year if not for McLaren's stupidity.

It's Alonso's to lose now, unless Hamilton wins in Suzuka with a poor scoring Vettel and Alonso, I can't see him winning this. It feels like 2010 all over again.

It really feels like 2010 again and to be honest, I kinda hate it.

Okay, not really, but I don't think I can take the same outcome again.

 

[TCRS]

Is the forum on the red button right now? I can only see live cycling

Jup, red button.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/formula1/19688318

 

[Dilly]

It really feels like 2010 again and to be honest, I kinda hate it.

Okay, not really, but I don't think I can take the same outcome again.

Mental breakdown.

 

[brotkasten]

Mental breakdown.

I can already see Maldonado being the moving chicane this time, instead of Petrov.

 

[Deadman]

If that happened i think id die laughing

 

[zomgbbqftw]

I would rather Alonso wins this year than Vettel that's for sure. Hamilton is obviously my first choice, but it looks like McLaren have fucked him over again this season.

 

[Jensen]

Jup, red button.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/formula1/19688318

Thanks for the link. Race weekends just aren't the same without the forum.

 

[brotkasten]

Lazenby looks like he's trying really hard to keep the fake emotions up.

 

[Grim1ock]

Forget Webber vs vettel. Alonso and vettel cant stand each other.

I hope Alonso wins the WDC. Lewis cant win with a retarded team like mclaren out to sabotage him

 

[navanman]

Has Hamilton spoken to any press since he retired. I guess he is gutted or PR have gagged him.

Today could have pushed him to Mercedes as it looked like he was to stay with McLaren.

 

[brotkasten]

Has Hamilton spoken to any press since he retired. I guess he is gutted or PR have gagged him.

Today could have pushed him to Mercedes as it looked like he was to stay with McLaren.

Sky interviewed him. He was gutted, but optimistic, because they clearly had the fastest car.

 

[Shaneus]

I think Alonso just called Vettel retarded.

Yeah, what's the story behind this?

Also, Vettel only won because he distracted everyone with his flashing helmet. Cheater.

Forget Webber vs vettel. Alonso and vettel cant stand each other.

I hope Alonso wins the WDC. Lewis cant win with a retarded team like mclaren out to sabotage him

Why is that (A vs V)? Has there been bad blood between them in the past? Because I can't think of anything...

 

[Foliorum Viridum]

Has Hamilton spoken to any press since he retired. I guess he is gutted or PR have gagged him.

Today could have pushed him to Mercedes as it looked like he was to stay with McLaren.

Why? A completely random car failure? Yeah right...

It sounds like the negotiations are all about money.

 

[NHale]

Yeah, what's the story behind this?

Also, Vettel only won because he distracted everyone with his flashing helmet. Cheater.

I'm guessing it was his accent when he said "Vettel retired" and sounded like retarded. The same way when he speaks about chicanes it sounds like chickens.

 

[Dead Man]

There is a standard race distance of 305km, so they plan the race for as many laps as can be completed within that distance, apparently it's significantly reduced for Monaco though and there is probably a good argument for doing the same here.

Yeah, forgot about that.

Alonso.

Alonso doesn't deserve to win because he has not had the fastest car? Rubbish, that is why he deserves to win.

 

[brotkasten]

Yeah, what's the story behind this?

Also, Vettel only won because he distracted everyone with his flashing helmet. Cheater.

He said retired, not retarded.

Eddie asked him about the race and championship and Alonso said that last race, Seb retired and this race Lewis retired and he wouldn't complain if they kept doing this.

 

[Deadman]

BBC just played hamilton interview, he sounded disappointed but hopeful

 

[Ark]

Why? A completely random car failure? Yeah right...

It sounds like the negotiations are all about money.

In the great scheme of things it's just one of many, many faults this year he's had to suffer. Eventually (if not already) he'll reach a breaking point and jump ship.

 

[Omiee]

I thought hamilton got less money for the contract renewal.

 

[Dead Man]

Has Hamilton spoken to any press since he retired. I guess he is gutted or PR have gagged him.

Today could have pushed him to Mercedes as it looked like he was to stay with McLaren.

Any driver should prefer a fast unreliable car. A slow car that finishes is still slow, Ham would be mad to move to Merc at the moment.

 

[Ark]

Any driver should prefer a fast unreliable car. A slow car that finishes is still slow, Ham would be mad to move to Merc at the moment.

Nearly six years and only one title in what is supposed to be the best team on the grid, speaks volumes.

 

[Dilly]

Not like the Mercedes was any better reliability wise.

 

[Foliorum Viridum]

In the great scheme of things it's just one of many, many faults this year he's had to suffer. Eventually (if not already) he'll reach a breaking point and jump ship.

I wouldn't say Mercedes are a much more reliable team. I'd certainly say that McLaren, overall, offer the best opportunity for Lewis.

I still see no reason for him to jump ship. If it's because of money then I think he's swapping a full bank account for an empty trophy cabinet.

 

[brotkasten]

Not like the Mercedes was any better reliability wise.

Imagine Hamilton in a car Schumacher had this season.

 

[Xun]

I'm really happy for Marussia.

They're definitely one of my rookie favourites.

 

[Deadman]

Vettel says he has to go to the stewards over the 1st restart

 

[TCRS]

LOL DC. Just walked away.

 

[Dead Man]

Nearly six years and only one title in what is supposed to be the best team on the grid, speaks volumes.

What team would have been better for him over those 6 years?

No one has been dominating, and expecting any team to go on a multi year run these days is absurd.

 

[brotkasten]

Vettel says he has to go to the stewards over the 1st restart

Vettel getting another 20s penalty, Alonso moves to P2.

So lucky!

 

[Ark]

What team would have been better for him over those 6 years?

No one has been dominating, and expecting any team to go on a multi year run these days is absurd.

It's not a question of 'what team would have been better', but a question of 'why haven't we been dominating when it's clear we have the capacity to build the quickest car?'

At the end of the day, it may just come down to Hamilton jumping ship for a difference in scenery.

 

[Deadman]

Seems like button has basically said he will help hamilton now

 

[Foshy]

Vettel getting another 20s penalty, Alonso moves to P2.

So lucky!

Are you just kidding or is that actually happening? I wouldn't be surprised at all.

 

[Dead Man]

It's not a question of 'what team would have been better', but a question of 'why haven't we been dominating when it's clear we have the capacity to build the quickest car?'

At the end of the day, it may just come down to Hamilton jumping ship for a difference in scenery.

If he wants to win, he is in the best team that has an open seat for next year that does not already have Alonso. And the reason they have not been dominating is simple. Everyone builds very good cars.

If he is worried about a lack of domination, he needs to get involved in the team aspect of the car, and make sure he is not making mistakes too. He has had some doozies over the years. He needs to find a way to get more involved in the design side too if he in unhappy so maybe he can help there. He has no better team available than McLaren. Maybe he just wants to change team, fair enough, a lot of drivers do, and they used to do it a lot more. But right now he has no reason to expect to be more successful at another team.

 

[Leunam]

Sad to say, but I kind of lost interest after Hamilton retired.

Regardless, congratulations to Vettel, Button, and Alonso. I knew Button would do well since he managed the tires better than Hamilton and got another lap or two out of them with decent times before pitting.

 

[Ark]

If he wants to win, he is in the best team that has an open seat for next year that does not already have Alonso. And the reason they have not been dominating is simple. Everyone builds very good cars.

If he is worried about a lack of domination, he needs to get involved in the team aspect of the car, and make sure he is not making mistakes too. He has had some doozies over the years. He needs to find a way to get more involved in the design side too if he in unhappy so maybe he can help there. He has no better team available than McLaren. Maybe he just wants to change team, fair enough, a lot of drivers do, and they used to do it a lot more. `

I could list off the mistakes McLaren have made that have hampered Lewis so far this year, but I honestly can't be bothered. Hamilton has probably made the least amount of mistakes this year (the only one that quickly comes to mind is Valencia, and that's heavily questionable) in his entire career, and you'd have to be a fool to say that he's not driving the best he ever has.

McLaren lately has become a race winning team, only one drivers title and no constructor trophies in over a decade. Since the new regulations came in McLaren have only started the year with a solid car once, this year.

 

[Dead Man]

I could list off the mistakes McLaren have made that have hampered Lewis so far this year, but I honestly can't be bothered. Hamilton has probably made the least amount of mistakes this year (the only one that quickly comes to mind is Valencia, and that's heavily questionable) in his entire career, and you'd have to be a fool to say that he's not driving the best he ever has.

McLaren lately has become a race winning team, only one drivers title and no constructor trophies in over a decade. Since the new regulations came in McLaren have only started the year with a solid car once, this year.

Yes, they are not perfect, but neither is Ham. Where can he go that will provide an appreciable increase in his end of year standing?

Really, what team would have given him better finishes than that?

 

[Dutch Gronk]

Vettel getting another 20s penalty, Alonso moves to P2.

So lucky!

Man, that would be so lucky.