I agree. Completely unjustified.
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The Formula 1 2012 Season |OT2| WHY AREN'T YOU WATCHING THIS SEASON?!
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I agree. Completely unjustified.
PdotMichael
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huh? That was a prime example of the rule. He didn't lose speed and he was on the better side because of his runoff.
This is the one he made at the time
Technically he went outside. He as also driven out there by a car directly next to him, what happened to leaving a car width for cars next to you?
Yeah, looking at that more though, Webber did overtake him but Perez definitely should have left more room than he did. Obviously I didn't see exactly what happened prior to the corner entry, but the Sauber definitely could left WAY more room than he did.
Can RBR appeal at all, or is that it?
Oh, something else:
Attn: Australians (and others not in the UK)
Do you have a PS3? If so, you can totally watch the BBC streams *in HD* on your console! I did it over the weekend, but I think I'm having internet problems because it ran like shit, but it definitely worked.
1. Sign up on Unblock-US.com. There's a free trial. Follow the instructions, set up everything as they say, changing the settings on your router to reflect their DNS.
2. Change the same DNS setting on your PS3 to their setting (or point it to your router, that should do the same thing)
3. Create a new PSN profile, basing yourself in the UK. I think you can do this on playstation.co.uk or something (I think that's where I did it, I can't remember).
4. Create a new user on your PS3, log onto it and setup your new UK PSN profile with it.
5. Go to TV/Video on the XMB, then My Channels. Download the BBC Sport "app". No need to bother with the BBC iPlayer one, that doesn't seem to have the live F1 stream accessible.
That's it! It gives the multiple angles and pit cam and all that crap, so it's the full deal. And when it's not buffering or laggy (but I'm in Australia... hopefully it's not like that all the time) it looks fucking GLORIOUS.
<3 Shaneus
Can RBR appeal at all, or is that it?
Oh, something else:
Attn: Australians (and others not in the UK)
Do you have a PS3? If so, you can totally watch the BBC streams *in HD* on your console! I did it over the weekend, but I think I'm having internet problems because it ran like shit, but it definitely worked.
1. Sign up on Unblock-US.com. There's a free trial. Follow the instructions, set up everything as they say, changing the settings on your router to reflect their DNS.
2. Change the same DNS setting on your PS3 to their setting (or point it to your router, that should do the same thing)
3. Create a new PSN profile, basing yourself in the UK. I think you can do this on playstation.co.uk or something (I think that's where I did it, I can't remember).
4. Create a new user on your PS3, log onto it and setup your new UK PSN profile with it.
5. Go to TV/Video on the XMB, then My Channels. Download the BBC Sport "app". No need to bother with the BBC iPlayer one, that doesn't seem to have the live F1 stream accessible.
That's it! It gives the multiple angles and pit cam and all that crap, so it's the full deal. And when it's not buffering or laggy (but I'm in Australia... hopefully it's not like that all the time) it looks fucking GLORIOUS.
<3 Shaneus
Webber needs way more tyres than Vettel. Even RBR has acknowledged, that this is limiting their race strategy.
Foliorum Viridum
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This is the one he made at the time
The design of the track makes the drivers do this. It's such a "safe" zone and looks so much like the track. He got pushed wide by Koby and because there's nothing there he kept his foot down. That's fair enough in my opinion.
I agree with Brundle that areas off the track should either be barriers or gravel. That's one easy way to make sure nobody goes off the track for an advantage and makes the races more challenging. Big fuck off run-off areas are only going to make these things more common and nobody likes the results changing post-race with penalties etc.
Edit: I do of course appreciate this is a street track so it's a bit different.
Psychotext
Member
I wonder if they'll announce a new driver at the same time...
Psychotext
Member
Bah, not even slightly excited now.
Goldrusher
Member
Better than expected, with Hamilton and Schumacher not finishing.
I'm a fan from the U.S. so I appreciate you posting this.
Me too, I'll have to check it out.
As for F1RM, I dropped 5 spots. Kobayashis Potato
Better than expected, with Hamilton and Schumacher not finishing.
Up to 6th! First time ive moved up in about 4 races
No worries, guys! It's actually the most awesome option, because it's not using VPN (I think what happens is when you do a lookup to whatever site, it looks up via a local server so it brings back the "local" page, even though your IP isn't... or something) you're only ever using your own traffic and not a VPN quota as well.
I can't watch the Singapore highlights without feeling sad over Hamilton's retirement.
I think it's fair to say that if he doesn't win Suzuka with Vettel and Alonso off the podium, it's all over for sure.
I know I was saying earlier that I wouldn't mind seeing Hamilton go to Mercedes (and I still wouldn't mind it, it would be interesting to watch), with McLaren's current form they could really be in a good place to take at least one title next year and also Hamilton's form this year, he seems to have finally found a good place.
I think it's fair to say that if he doesn't win Suzuka with Vettel and Alonso off the podium, it's all over for sure.
I know I was saying earlier that I wouldn't mind seeing Hamilton go to Mercedes (and I still wouldn't mind it, it would be interesting to watch), with McLaren's current form they could really be in a good place to take at least one title next year and also Hamilton's form this year, he seems to have finally found a good place.
Psychotext
Member
Would be such an anti-climax.
If they're offering 12, then Merc can't be offering 20, as I read somewhere. That gap would still be too big. Either way, that DNF probably lit a fire under McLaren management to give him a better offer, since they're not exactly winning him over with their championship campaign. Whatever he decides, I hope he's happy with it and it brings him success. If he stays with McLaren, I wouldn't mind seeing Whitmarsh find the exit. He's too cozy with the slower driver right now. PEACE.
fu3lfr3nzy
Member
That doesnt surprise me at all. Despite everyones hatred for Massa, I was expecting him to stay for the 2013 season nonetheless.
With the amount of money pretty much all drivers are earning (with the exception of pay ones, obv) it surprises me that people will quibble over a few million a year as a small fraction of what they already get. Seriously. YOU DRIVE A FUCKING F1 CAR FOR A LIVING.
Hamilton not getting any extra respect from me regarding this.
Hamilton not getting any extra respect from me regarding this.
They have to look after themselves just like any other professional. If anything you should lose respect for McLaren for not wanting to pay Hamilton when he brings them quite a bit of money.
Shao Kahn Brewing a Stew
Banned
One of the funniest races I've ever seen. Such a boring track made excited by the impatience and hilarious team-radio and reactions.
Name a professional sport where money isn't the biggest factor in negotiations. It doesn't matter how much they make, or what they do in the sport, money is always the biggest factor.
Also, the amount of money made is all determinant on the amount of money the sport makes. F1 is extremely lucrative, so it makes sense that the drivers should also get lucrative contracts. Driving an F1 car is in no way easy, which is why only two dozen men on the entire planet get a chance to do it. PEACE.
pants
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Eww
It's not the sport though, it's the individual in it. I'm sure there are hundreds of sportsmen (and women) who have chosen to stay with their particular team/club universally due to loyalty rather than money. I could roll off a few off the top of my head with AFL, for instance. But obviously no entire sport is immune... there are always greedy people.
PEACE
The AFL doesn't sound exactly like the best of the best for football players. F1 racers are the top of the crop of racing drivers. They are the Messi's, Tiger Woods, Bradley Wiggins, Kobe Bryants of racing. They're brand ambassadors worth billions in marketing. It is normal that they get a piece of that.
Drivers:
1. Fernando Alonso Ferrari 30m
2. Lewis Hamilton McLaren-Mercedes 16m
= Jenson Button McLaren-Mercedes 16m
4. Sebastian Vettel Red Bull Racing 10m
= Mark Webber Red Bull Racing 10m
= Felipe Massa Ferrari 10m
= Nico Rosberg Mercedes 10m
8. Michael Schumacher Mercedes 8m
9. Kimi Raikkonen Lotus F1 Team 5m
10. Heikki Kovalainen Caterham F1 Team 4m
11. Timo Glock Marussia F1 Team 3m
12. Kamui Kobayashi Sauber 1m
= Romain Grosjean Lotus F1 Team 1m
14. Nico Hulkenberg Force India F1 500,000
= Sergio Perez Sauber 500,000
= Vitaly Petrov Caterham F1 Team 500,000
= Pedro de la Rosa HRT 500,000
18. Pastor Maldonado Williams 400,000
= Daniel Ricciardo Scuderia Toro Rosso 400,000
= Jean-Eric Vergne Scuderia Toro Rosso 400,000
21. Bruno Senna Williams 250,000
= Narain Karthikeyan HRT 250,000
23. Paul di Resta Force India F1 200,000
24. Charles Pic Marussia 150,000
brotkasten
Member
That list is old and not accurate anymore.
From the Forbes "The World's 100 Highest-Paid Athletes" list.
http://www.forbes.com/pictures/mli45igdi/19-fernando-alonso/#gallerycontent
And the rest:
No other F1 drivers are listed. The list ends with Kurt Badenhausen, a Baseball player, who earns $16.5 million, which obviously means that all other drivers get less than that in a year.
Yes, guys.
This man
is the second highest paid driver on the grid.
At least as far as the Merc drivers are conserned, your list is incorrect and Forbes is correct. MSC is the second highest paid driver right now, which given the production, is very unfair to ROS.
BTW, driver salaries are usually contracted in USD.
Formula 1 is one of the only sports in the world where I can justify the salaries they receive.
There are only 24 people in the world, out of 7 billion who can drive an F1 car at any one time. On top of that, there are only 6 out of those 24 who can realistically challenge for the title each year, making them 6 of the best athletes in the world. Not only that, but it's also incredibly dangerous.
Not to mention the vast amounts of money the teams and F1 itself makes.
A lot of Schumacher's money comes from personal sponsorships though. I guess that's just one of the many perks of being a living statistical legend.
There are only 24 people in the world, out of 7 billion who can drive an F1 car at any one time. On top of that, there are only 6 out of those 24 who can realistically challenge for the title each year, making them 6 of the best athletes in the world. Not only that, but it's also incredibly dangerous.
Not to mention the vast amounts of money the teams and F1 itself makes.
A lot of Schumacher's money comes from personal sponsorships though. I guess that's just one of the many perks of being a living statistical legend.
News slowly dripping out: Merc is going to announce the 7 year extension in Formula 1 this week by signing the concorde agreement.
The ca has been intermediated by Lauda. Merc will get the historical priviliges (which has been the biggest point for Stuttgart) on a conditional basis, depending on future results.
The ca has been intermediated by Lauda. Merc will get the historical priviliges (which has been the biggest point for Stuttgart) on a conditional basis, depending on future results.
A lot of the salary stuff seems to be second hand or speculation. the more you dig into it the less clear it becomes.
http://formula-one.speedtv.com/article/f1-fernando-alonso-like-michael-schumacher-except-salary/
http://formula-one.speedtv.com/article/f1-fernando-alonso-like-michael-schumacher-except-salary/
Ferrari's Stefano Domenicali said:
So they are really betting on their near future. The Hamilton signing would be the perfect way to ensure they get the historical previleges permanently.
They´re offering HAM more money than they are paying MSC right now - how much more serious can they get? ;P
The monday after Monza Brawn and Bell had to report and show their plan for the future. Word is, Stuttgart was excited. Since Sept. 1st they are using their new wind tunnel, finally on par with RBR and Fer, using 60% models.
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