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The Formula 1 2014 Season |OT2| Louder Than Formula E

yami4ct

Member
So, any truth to the reports that it was the race organizers call to not push up the race, rather than the FIAs? If so, after all that I cannot imagine what the hell made that a good idea, especially given what happened.
 

Tempy

don't ask me for codes
I don't give a fuck about what Hamilton does and doesn't do outside of a racing car. I just know if someone comes over and tells me someone is seriously injured I don't immediately worry about how I happen to be looking.

At best it's a odd thing to do.

Shut up.
 

hadareud

The Translator
Fucking awful. This is looking very bad.

Someone needs to be fired over this. As per above, the safety is compromised if an ai ambulance can`t take of

Bullshit. Horrible things can happen without anyone having to be made a scapegoat.

Ridiculous reaction.
 

kmag

Member
Seriously?.. The guy must be shocked and he doesn't even know what he's doing. It's not like he called his stylist to make sure he looks good!!

Maybe. I don't know. I just thought it looked weird. That it's. I'm not saying he's vain, I'm saying he doesn't care, I'm just saying it looked a weird reaction. People react in different ways to bad news, my mate burst out a single laugh when told his Dad died and to this day doesn't know why.

I don't happen to have a million cameras on me, I can imagine that adds to the pressure, and I know when I get nervous I like to keep my hands busy. The fact he continued with it on the podium suggests I that's what Lewis was doing, keeping is hands busy.

There's a million different reasons for any reaction, I'm just saying it looked weird to me.

I'm actually sorry I mentioned it, I forgot there's this weird tension about speaking about Hamilton.
 

Aiii

So not worth it
German commentary said Ambulance was escorted by police and travel time is about the same as per helicopter, so we can stop the complains about that.
 

RoKKeR

Member
NBC just ended their coverage for the night. Might slam a Nyquil and throw on a podcast but I'm really distracted now and can't see sleep in my future...shit.
 

itsgreen

Member
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hamchan

Member
Maybe. I don't know. I just thought it looked weird. That it's. I'm not saying he's vain, I'm saying he doesn't care, I'm just saying it looked a weird reaction. People react in different ways to bad news, my mate burst out a single laugh when told his Dad died and to this day doesn't know why.

I don't happen to have a million cameras on me, I can imagine that adds to the pressure, and I know when I get nervous I like to keep my hands busy. The fact he continued with it on the podium suggests I that's what Lewis was doing, keeping is hands busy.

There's a million different reasons for any reaction, I'm just saying it looked weird to me.

I'm actually sorry I mentioned it, I forgot there's this weird tension about speaking about Hamilton.

Oh c'mon dude, why did you even add his last sentence? What's wrong with you?
 

DrM

Redmond's Baby
Looking to pictures, it seems that Jules side-hit the tractor or end of the barrier at service entrance at Dunlop corner, which was open due to removal of Sutils car, with side of his cockpit hitting first. Oh god...
 

Upinsmoke

Member
Hope he's okay but immediate thoughts given the limited info are certainly worryingly. Even more worrying is the people in charge of sky's twitter feed, oh we might have a fatality on our hands here, but before we go into that, Lewis Hamilton extends his lead over Nico Rosberg in the driver's championship!!!!

Seriously?
 
If it had been Rosberg or Vettel shown doing it I'd have mentioned it. It's not a Hamilton thing. Maybe they did, maybe it's a normal reaction I don't know, but I saw something I thought it was incongruous and mentioned it.
I had already said I saw Hamilton cross himself obviously giving a prayer for Bianchi whilst in the waiting room before the ceremony. What would you prefer? Fall to his knees and weep?

About the decision for the race to run. I know they said there would be provisions for a police escort etc for ambulances but it's not good enough. Yes, it was a poor decision. As for the incident. A similar thing happened to Brundle in 94 at the same corner, though not as serious. Lessons have not been learned.
 

kharma45

Member
German commentary said Ambulance was escorted by police and travel time is about the same as per helicopter, so we can stop the complains about that.

I saw a tweet saying too that the ambulance is just as quick for getting there as by air.
 

R&R

Member
Please stop with the absolutely bullshit comments, you know who you are. This is not the place or the time to put blame on anybody. Motorsport is inherently dangerous and accidents, even fatal ones, do happen ever so often unfortunately. In my opinion there was very little that could have been done to prevent this incident.
 

duckroll

Member
I'm actually sorry I mentioned it, I forgot there's this weird tension about speaking about Hamilton.

No, this really isn't about Hamilton. I don't think we care at this moment what any driver might be doing about their hair or whatever. It's in really poor taste to make random comments like that when the concern is the well being of another driver who was involved in a serious accident.
 

Cigol

Member
People shouldn't jump to conclusions. F1 is incredibly safe. They stop races to fix barriers and annoy fans (and Niki lauda) to avoid things like this (all whilst trying to make money, obviously).

Accidents happen though.
 

kharma45

Member
Please stop with the absolutely bullshit comments, you know who you are. This is not the place or the time to put blame on anybody. Motorsport is inherently dangerous and accidents, even fatal ones, do happen ever so often unfortunately. In my opinion there was very little that could have been done to prevent this incident.

I hope I articulate this right. This is a very serious and unfortunate accident but I don't feel the race was red flaggable until Jules crashed. Yes conditions were tough but most were still able to go round, albeit carefully.
 

yami4ct

Member
I'm actually sorry I mentioned it, I forgot there's this weird tension about speaking about Hamilton.

Your apology was great, until you got right to the end. Clearly you don't get that the problem wasn't that you criticized Hamilton. Reaction would have been the same had you made comments about Rosberg or Vettel. Not cool, dude.

To the guy who posted crash images on the page, please take those down. Some don't want to see a crash that caused someone serious harm.
 

Tubie

Member
Did it seriously not occur to anyone at the FIA what would happen if they needed to airlift someone to a hospital? What was so fucking hard about doing the race yesterday or a few hours earlier.

This has me really fucking upset, now I can only hope Bianchi recovers and that the FIA never lets shit like this happen again.
 

olore

Member
Ridiculous reaction.

Really? I don`t agree with you at all. Fingers crossed, but what if he passes away? Someone needs to be accountable. At least a hard long look and examination to what went wrong. Hospital is Three quarters of an hour away by road? No helicopter? That`s a warning right there
 
Rosberg spoke to the FIA, came over to speak to Hamilton who nodded and continued fixing his hair. I'm sure he's very concerned (and I really mean that), but you'd think he'd stop fucking about with his hair for a bit. You know that camera is on you, so it's a perception thing, it just seemed strange to me. Maybe it's a nervous thing for Hamilton.

I dislike you.
 

kmag

Member
Oh c'mon dude, why did you even add his last sentence? What's wrong with you?

Because someone said "what is it with you fucking people and Hamilton"

Last I'm going to speak about it and I'm going to sign off. Sorry I mentioned it, at best it was in poor taste, but people are assigning motives to it that I don't have.
 

McNum

Member
So, any truth to the reports that it was the race organizers call to not push up the race, rather than the FIAs? If so, after all that I cannot imagine what the hell made that a good idea, especially given what happened.
If the worst happens, this call will be questioned so hard by the media, and everyone. "Who is crazy enough to have a race in the face of a typhoon?"

I assume, though, that there'll be a new rule about evacuation options, like if the helicopters are grounded, the race is red flagged. Or a mare aggressive Safety Car policy to avoid a double crash like this.
 

Addnan

Member
I know we as fans always want the race to continue but what is the rule on race continuing if the conditions are bad enough for the helicopter to not be able to fly?
 

frontieruk

Member
Maybe. I don't know. I just thought it looked weird. That it's. I'm not saying he's vain, I'm saying he doesn't care, I'm just saying it looked a weird reaction. People react in different ways to bad news, my mate burst out a single laugh when told his Dad died and to this day doesn't know why.

I don't happen to have a million cameras on me, I can imagine that adds to the pressure, and I know when I get nervous I like to keep my hands busy. The fact he continued with it on the podium suggests I that's what Lewis was doing, keeping is hands busy.

There's a million different reasons for any reaction, I'm just saying it looked weird to me.

I'm actually sorry I mentioned it, I forgot there's this weird tension about speaking about Hamilton.


Just watched it again, Vettel came in the room, checked the screen then did his hair.

Hamilton actually doesn't more time towelling himself down from the sweat than doing his hair but hey let's concentrate on this bs rather than a driver is seriously injured.
 

Upinsmoke

Member
Please stop with the absolutely bullshit comments, you know who you are. This is not the place or the time to put blame on anybody. Motorsport is inherently dangerous and accidents, even fatal ones, do happen ever so often unfortunately. In my opinion there was very little that could have been done to prevent this incident.

Massa was interviewed saying he was screaming on the radio five laps earlier asking for the safety car before the incident happened.
 

Nicktendo86

Member
Please stop with the absolutely bullshit comments, you know who you are. This is not the place or the time to put blame on anybody. Motorsport is inherently dangerous and accidents, even fatal ones, do happen ever so often unfortunately. In my opinion there was very little that could have been done to prevent this incident.
What is this rubbish? Yes accidents happen which makes the sport dangerous and more exciting but don't hold the gp during a fucking super tornado just because you don't want to upset sponsors!

Sorry if I'm being overboard.
 

dakun

Member
Sutil saying that visibility and track was bad and after he went off they could've put the race under safety car.
But didn't want to put blame afterwards since everyone is smarter after the fact
 

hadareud

The Translator
Maybe. I don't know. I just thought it looked weird. That it's. I'm not saying he's vain, I'm saying he doesn't care, I'm just saying it looked a weird reaction. People react in different ways to bad news, my mate burst out a single laugh when told his Dad died and to this day doesn't know why.

I don't happen to have a million cameras on me, I can imagine that adds to the pressure, and I know when I get nervous I like to keep my hands busy. The fact he continued with it on the podium suggests I that's what Lewis was doing, keeping is hands busy.

There's a million different reasons for any reaction, I'm just saying it looked weird to me.

I'm actually sorry I mentioned it, I forgot there's this weird tension about speaking about Hamilton.

If you're so concerned about the wellbeing of someone, it's odd that you seem to be more concerned by someone's alleged lack of concern. Seems to me that it's actually you that's most concerned with someone fixing their hair.
 

AxeMan

Member
Massa was interviewed saying he was screaming on the radio five laps earlier asking for the safety car before the incident happened.

Brings up an interesting point.
If a driver thinks it unsafe to race though the Race Director allows the race to continue should the driver then pit himself?
 

yami4ct

Member
I know we as fans always want the race to continue but what is the rule on race continuing if the conditions are bad enough for the helicopter to not be able to fly?

How long has it been since someone had to be medivac-ed out of a race? It's not an excuse, but when something doesn't happen for a long time, people get lazy. Preventative measures that need to be in place soften.
 

dakun

Member
Brings up an interesting point.
If a driver thinks it unsafe to race though the Race Director allows the race to continue should the driver then pit himself?
The driver has commitments to the team and sponsors. It shouldn't have to come to this point to begin with.
 

hadareud

The Translator
Really? I don`t agree with you at all. Fingers crossed, but what if he passes away? Someone needs to be accountable. At least a hard long look and examination to what went wrong. Hospital is Three quarters of an hour away by road? No helicopter? That`s a warning right there

No, someone needs to be held accountable if someone actually is accountable.

The severity of the injury does not necessarily mean that someone is responsible for it.

It's racing and accidents will happen.

That's taking nothing away from how horrible this is.
 
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