Myoclonic Jerk
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Didn't the British GP get stopped or something because of the medical helicopter?
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Didn't the British GP get stopped or something because of the medical helicopter?
Nicktendo86
Member
I don't know why they are still making drivers give interviews.
Agree with that. I was just putting the question out there.
Do you think any driver, if they really believed it was unsafe to race, would continue to do so?
If the organizations in place don't have enough concern for your safety to stop the race, then yes. There's so many social and economic pressures that would stop many drivers from doing this. Besides giving up any potential points, drivers might be afraid of looking like cowards or repercussions by their team or sponsors. Drivers should never be put in the situation where they have to make that call.
frontieruk
Member
For all the Shit said about him, he reminds me of Senna in that he really does care when people get injured and you can always see it on his face.
Myoclonic Jerk
Member
damn!
I hope he is ok and will be ok.
From what I understand though is that if someone is unconscious for such a long time then it usually means some serious head trauma - I hope that isn't correct
Interestingly Moto GP races won't go ahead without a helicopter.
Exactly.
Rosberg has some details on Jules but doesn't want to comment as well. It is serious though.
Everyone remembers Massa's incident. Or even the one in Montreal.
This is clearly a case of "how safe can it be, and still be what it is?"
It's not pleasant, and every single time it rains and someone spins of, Martin Brundle says EXACTLY that this could happen. He's been saying it for nearly 20 years, though. But there's nothing you can do. You can't not gather the car. You can't stop the race when someone spins off.. We can't forget how safe F1 is, and we can't prevent such things from happening. Eriksson spun off behind the safety car.
brotkasten
Member
Nico's the same. Doesn't race about the race, looks horrible with watery eyes and mentioned that it's very serious.
Many of us did. I feel bad about the flippant comment I made about Duckroll causing the SC. Without info, it's easy just to assume that it's the FIA being overly cautious and spoiling what was a fun race.
In the future, I will definitely reconsider my feelings about SC periods.
It's definitely a good time to remember that no matter how arrogant or unlikable top drivers can get, they're still humans, and they're probably the ones most aware of the potential danger they put themselves in at these high speeds. So when something terrible does happen, it would be really hard not for them to feel it very intimately.
I think they're well within their right to. Like when Niki Lauda pitted in the 1976 final race in Japan.
Nicktendo86
Member
Why the hell were there no yellows or even a safety car while a tractor was out on track? The investigation will come but Jesus, this looks to have been a series of errors.
Of course they have the righ, but like it was already mentioned there are lots of factors that could hold them back from doing so.
brotkasten
Member
Can you please stop posting pictures? If anyone wants to see them, it's easy to know where to find them.
Where possible, they need to recover cars from behind the barriers. The arm on that one was surely long enough to reach over, and if not, it should be. They've got the things at Monaco.
I thought we had yellows when Sutil went off. Could be wrong.
posting links is alright if they are described as such. People have the option of not clicking them if they chose to.
Dutch Gronk
Banned
This is a bad representation of the incident. That's the rear left folded round, rather than front and rear right. From other angles the right side of the car has stayed structurally strong
Nicktendo86
Member
Jesus, looks like the car went right under the tractor. I would be surprised if he survived that
We did.
I definitely feel like NBC had the yellow flag graphic pretty quickly after Suitl went off. Don't know the exact details of what happened when. It's all kind of one big blur now.
brotkasten
Member
He just wasn't able to embed them, like he did before.
sounds like bullshit.
It took off to pick him up and eveything.
We cannot believe that we can have utter control. You'd need people on track to gather them, still. They could be hit. You need cranes, not trucks, to recover them from behind the barriers. The longer the arm, the bigger the counter-weight needed.
Brundle spoke about this exact corner. It's time to do something about that corner, in response to what's happened. But these things will happen. Fatalities is a below rare occurrence in F1, now, but just look back at the Montreal incident, and it's clear to see that we can't be 100% safe. We can be safer, but we cannot prevent everything.
jesus. the back of the car really got fucked up. although, it's good to see that it looks like the part where he actually was doesn't seem to have taken too much damage.
It doesn't. It could be the type of injury that isn't conducive to high altitude travel.
Myoclonic Jerk
Member
fuck man..fuck.. I'm almost in tears here.. I'm not even sure how to feel about the whole thing..
I just hope he comes out of it
ok so we can assume that the injuries are most likely to the head since the car looks to have survived the impact relatively good. Maybe a direct contact or just the G Forces + angle knocking him out?
This could be a similar outcome to Karl Wendlinger in 1994 when he hit the barriers sideways
brotkasten
Member
Sutil refused to comment on the accident at all. He just said that Jules had the same accident he had and he hopes that he's in good hands.
I rewinded and checked. Yellows right after it happened. They changed the camera back to the scene of the accident right after Jules had crashed, I surmised after I saw it again. You saw the marshals scrambling to the point of impact, waving their hands in reaction of the impact to get medical there.