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The Formula 1 2014 Season |OT2| Louder Than Formula E
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Well they are ignorant. So are you. I'm too.
By definition.
We know far too little to say whether a closed cockpit would have made a difference or whether it would or could make things worse in other situations. We're ignorant of the effects.
I understand that people tend to be prone to knee jerk reactions in difficult situations like these, but improvements will have to be researched properly before we can say that this or that should be implemented. One video of a tyre hitting a canopy (where that canopy moved significantly btw, leading me to suspect that in Bianchi's situation he'd have still hit his head even with that) is nowhere near enough.
It's always good to look at new improvements, though.
All anyone's saying is to look at it more seriously and see and not just disregard it because it's "not F1" whatever that means. As I said before, we have now seen 3 head injuries in the last few years in F1, as well as the ones in GP2 and Indycar.
That tweet was just "lol no canopy can stop 50g deceleration lol". Because of course, the tweeter knows all the facts, and has researched it thoroughly.
Plenty of drivers have withstood much higher g loads on deceleration because they are for fractions of a second. Look at all the car's that just go straight into walls. The way in which he hit was more to do with it, in my armchair opinion, than how fast he slowed down.
Damn. Big respect to them.
Psychotext
Member
True... but the tweeter has no understanding of physics. Which is probably worse.
Osiris
I permanently banned my 6 year old daughter from using the PS4 for mistakenly sending grief reports as it's too hard to watch or talk to her
I'd say he has a decent understanding of racecar physics, you know what with being a former winning Le Mans & World Endurance Championship driver and all
Eh, you do hear of those stories for people being in them for ages and popping out pretty fine. They are the exception, but there is still hope.
There is always hope, but I'm a "prepare for the worst" kind of guy I suppose.
Deaf Spacker
Memb
Yeah they have said that his family and best friend are by his bedside.
Psychotext
Member
I'd say he has a decent understanding of racecar physics, you know what with being a former winning Le Mans & World Endurance Championship driver and all
Yet apparently no concept of what a cockpit would do to deceleration forces in the case of an impact with a static body..
But lets not forget other accidents that could have been prevented if we had closed cockpits. Like I've said, Felipe Massa, Maria DeVillota, Dan Wheldon, Henry Surtees...
I think Hamilton's form right now is what is the big difference maker between the two, not so much the set-up. Dude is just on another level right now, everything is going his way.
Great news!
They didn't say that. They said more of his family came to the hospital. That's it. You may interpret that as meaning his condition has gotten worse, but The Guardian did not say that, and any idea that his condition is worsening seems to be pure speculation at this point.
zomgbbqftw
Banned
Ron Dennis must be rubbing his hands with glee right now. Honda will be able to react on the spot to improve the engine and as a works team McLaren will be able to take full advantage of the improvements right away.
Even if they start badly McLaren could be winning races by the end of 2015.
It's a step in the right direction. I'd be much happier if they allowed for testing during the season (doesn't have to be unlimited, but a two-day test every month or so would be fine) and decreased limitation on car designs as far as aero goes.
A big part of the charm of F1 was lost when the focus was taken off technological and aerodynamic development during the season imo. F1 is supposed to be the pinnacle of car racing and that's been lost over the past decade, bring it back I say.
Yep, that's the reason they've been doing it, so smaller teams could have a chance.
And certainly the Caterham's and Marussia's of the world have been outperforming the Minardi's of old, so that certainly helped.
Really, I get the idea and it's a noble idea, but bottom line I'd rather see less teams that have the money to compete at the top with three cars than have teams like Caterham fill the field and just "be there."
And certainly the Caterham's and Marussia's of the world have been outperforming the Minardi's of old, so that certainly helped.
Really, I get the idea and it's a noble idea, but bottom line I'd rather see less teams that have the money to compete at the top with three cars than have teams like Caterham fill the field and just "be there."
Great news. Next season can't come soon enough.
Fox Mulder
Member
It should be noted that Renault, Mercedes and Ferrari all have to supply identical parts to all teams running their engines. Only software is done separately for each team.
So it's not going to be cheap, and If they can't supply all teams the same, then none can run the upgrades.
Also hoping that Merc fund another 50 HP just to annoy Horner.
So it's not going to be cheap, and If they can't supply all teams the same, then none can run the upgrades.
Also hoping that Merc fund another 50 HP just to annoy Horner.
Will probably get the chance in the following races. Right now Marussia made the right decision but I don't think they will run all of the remaining races with one car.
How long is that from now? Or when you posted?
nature boy
Member
The ban lift still requires unanimous support in the WMSC so Mercedes (who apparently changed their minds from Singapore) can still block it:
http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/116260
http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/116260
zomgbbqftw
Banned
Mercedes have more customers though.
Merc supply to Mercedes, Williams, Lotus and Force India
Ferrari - Ferrari, Marussia and Sauber
Renault - RBR, STR and Caterham
Honda - McLaren
Surely the big winner here is McLaren. Honda have just one customer and can roll changes in very quickly without having to worry about any non-works teams they supply like the others.
This is quite possible because Mercedes will not rest on past honors and will develop engine from very solid base, compared to Renault and Ferrari.
Yeah, who knows he could have been in on the decision. Honor Jules with the GP in Sochi then make his F1 debut in the US.
Yeah I can only see them doing it this weekend. Next one will be back to two cars for sponsors, not that they've loads but can't see them being happy at only one car running around.
I don't recall seeing just how free they are, if its going to be like it was in the past where they could bring new parts every 5 minutes, or if its say, every 4 races for example. McLaren will be the winner, if Honda can make a decent engine. It's clearly not all too easy since Renault and Ferrari have been making engines for awhile now and borked theirs up.
All irrelevant when McLaren will quite possibly have a crap car again.
Indeed. They probably have smaller gains to make though. But then they could also spent more time or money on making the packaging smaller, lighter etc.