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The Formula 1 Off-Season |OT| Haas to get better, right?
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Who isn't?
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Wake up Sheeple, your boring insistence that Obama is not a lizardman from Atlantis is wearing on my patience ð¤
From what I gather, the other options were a closed cockpit, or whatever in the hell the second one is.
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At this point you are just better off going closed cockpit. The others look a bit shit. 😫
Icefire1424
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I'll admit I prefer the Halo over the closed cockpit. And both are a significant improvement over the crossbars.
JadedWriter
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Yes since Maldonado was nothing more than a Venezuelan accented crash test dummy wearing a convict skin.
Neither nof those is as good as the Ferrari closed cockpit drawing that circulated a few years ago.
http://www.motorsport.com/all/photo/user-uploads/rendering-of-a-closed-cockpit-ferrari-f1/?a=457319
At that points it's not F1 anymore but the bars look weird to me and halo seems decent.
http://www.motorsport.com/all/photo/user-uploads/rendering-of-a-closed-cockpit-ferrari-f1/?a=457319
At that points it's not F1 anymore but the bars look weird to me and halo seems decent.
brotkasten
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Because we're shallow people and care about the look and sound of F1 cars more.
EarsOfASnake
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Other than in the unlikely event of an overturned car why would they not be able to get out in 5 seconds if there is a quick release system?
ElTorro pls, it's a reflection lol.
This. They mentioned at one point it's more designed to deflect flying pieces, tires and stuff, not necessarily a car coming sideways or a crash structure itself.
I believe that's the main reason a closed cockpit is a no-go, and why the Mercedes halo is preferred over it.
It wouldn't have helped Massa, but might have saved Surtees (wheel), Bianchi (collision with crane), or Wilson (nose cone).
I just realized that the Petronas logo is not symmetric, so yeah, it has to be a reflection. I now remember that I had the same thought a few months ago in another thread when that image had been posted, lol.
I always thought it was a possibility, from a legal point of view both drivers were contracted with Lotus so I'm sure with some twist Renault could say they didn't sign them in the end.
PdotMichael
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Well, they should just make a full closed cockpit. It's not that one can really see the drivers anymore anyway.
Maybe it could mean to make the driver even more visible again.
Maybe it could mean to make the driver even more visible again.
Icefire1424
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Tangentially related to F1, so I don't feel too bad posting this here.
Since there aren't any races to watch at the moment, I'm getting my race fix in through playing Project CARS. Currently in the GP2...er...Formula B championship and my next race just happens to be at Monaco.
...and dear God I cannot find a way to set up that car that doesn't end with me in a wall. Starting to see why the teams have so much trouble at that circuit. This is going to be a problem if I can't stay on the track long enough to post a good Qualifying time, since there's no way I'll be able to pass anyone during the race.
Since there aren't any races to watch at the moment, I'm getting my race fix in through playing Project CARS. Currently in the GP2...er...Formula B championship and my next race just happens to be at Monaco.
...and dear God I cannot find a way to set up that car that doesn't end with me in a wall. Starting to see why the teams have so much trouble at that circuit. This is going to be a problem if I can't stay on the track long enough to post a good Qualifying time, since there's no way I'll be able to pass anyone during the race.
What's the hashtag for Red Bull complaining? I need to use it more (even though I don't tweet, lol)
Sure Adrian, because you were so willing to share your aero with other teams when you were dominating.
http://www.espn.co.uk/f1/story/_/id/14671394/if-sport-not-healthy-point-winning-adrian-newey
Sure Adrian, because you were so willing to share your aero with other teams when you were dominating.
http://www.espn.co.uk/f1/story/_/id/14671394/if-sport-not-healthy-point-winning-adrian-newey
brotkasten
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Sounds like they're still mad that Toto vetoed the engine deal. Lauda was very interested in the deal, apparently.
Fox Mulder
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Aero is something every team can work on. Customer teams are handcuffed on what they get from an engine provider. It must be frustrating, as Redbull couldnt do anything about Renault shitting the bed with their god awful engines.
Wax Free Vanilla
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McLaren spotted at Barcelona:
xrnzaaas
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Not sure if this was posted here... Ted Kravitz posted a few pics of the streets from the upcoming Baku Circuit. Even Monaco feels wide compared to this 
More here: https://twitter.com/tedkravitz/status/693363797457817600
More here: https://twitter.com/tedkravitz/status/693363797457817600
Fox Mulder
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Lots of parked cars for lewis to hit.
aspiegamer
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Holy crap. Even without checking I'm going to assume that's the alleyway portion after the looooong sweeping right around the Old City, which already looks treacherous enough. And how the hell are you going to be able to clear incidents in that area? It's not like Monaco where there's room to cram some cranes around and even space to throw a few barriers up.
The whole track screams dangerous to me, to be honest. The teams will have to run Monza spec to not cripple themselves on the preposterously long front straight, yet also squirm through cobbles like that? Race is likely to bump up on the 2hr max.
The rest is on wide enough streets and lacks random chicanes. The signature sections are the front straight, sector 1 and through here. It's some Singapore-type 90-degree turn nonsense from there on, if I recall.
Holy fuck, a crash in that area will easily red-flag the race.
Some race organizers simply hate overtaking
Good idea. Send it to Bernie
This may be a dumb question, are they going to pave over that cobblestone??? Or is it removable? Would be a shame to cover it up
Not sure if this was posted here... Ted Kravitz posted a few pics of the streets from the upcoming Baku Circuit. Even Monaco feels wide compared to this
More here: https://twitter.com/tedkravitz/status/693363797457817600
I don't get it. Shouldn't work have started on preparing the track for F1? You'd have to tear down all those stones and replace it with asphalt. Wouldn't that also kinda ruin its looks?
Just watched the 24 hours of Daytona finish the GTLM class with a 0.1 difference between 1st and 2nd place both from the same team, where his team owner allowed them to race and both almost crashed with 6 mins to go. If this was F1, Horner or Todt would be on track crying and begging the 2nd place to slowdown.
Team owner after the race "We don't work so hard for 23 hours not to race in the end."
This race had more battles for the win and enjoyment in the last hour than F1 has in 5 races. Seriously there is something wrong where endurance racing has more sprint racing than F1 (manage tyres, delta times, fuel management) meanwhile this race and last year's LeMans was sprint racing for the entire 24 hours, screw tyres, fuel, gotta go fast. Incredible how things have turned.
Also Barrichello team almost won overall (but was much slower than his teammates to the point they preferred to have a sick driver on the car than Rubens).
Team owner after the race "We don't work so hard for 23 hours not to race in the end."
This race had more battles for the win and enjoyment in the last hour than F1 has in 5 races. Seriously there is something wrong where endurance racing has more sprint racing than F1 (manage tyres, delta times, fuel management) meanwhile this race and last year's LeMans was sprint racing for the entire 24 hours, screw tyres, fuel, gotta go fast. Incredible how things have turned.
Also Barrichello team almost won overall (but was much slower than his teammates to the point they preferred to have a sick driver on the car than Rubens).
hooijdonk17
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...is it just me that thinks visibility would be just a bit hampered by this thing? I'm all for making the sport safer, but I would think that bar in the center of a drivers field of vision would be distracting.
Business
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My first thought too.
From my very childlish and non-pro experience in virtual racing:
This whole track makes zero sense because of its layout.
Configuration allows the leader to build the MASSIVE gap in that "old city" section and then widen the gap in those stupid straights. Despite I like the narrow streets and such old-city backgrund, the actual layout is simply stupid.
lol and I thought th idea of having a GP in Athens port, Piraeus, was bad.Not sure if this was posted here... Ted Kravitz posted a few pics of the streets from the upcoming Baku Circuit. Even Monaco feels wide compared to this
More here: https://twitter.com/tedkravitz/status/693363797457817600
At anything over 30mph rain flies off my windscreen with some carlack windscreen stuff on it. I imagine its probably something that's been solved before.
Shao Kahn Brewing a Stew
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Not sure if this was posted here... Ted Kravitz posted a few pics of the streets from the upcoming Baku Circuit. Even Monaco feels wide compared to this
More here: https://twitter.com/tedkravitz/status/693363797457817600
Silly GAF. That's just the pitlane.
Yep... just the pitlane...
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Fuck.
Well, it doesn't seem narrower than the bridge in Singapore, and yet we had this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nSd89c675qs
Or maybe Tilke can demolish that old historical castle and build a 20 meters wide track with a modern glass tower in substitution.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nSd89c675qs
Or maybe Tilke can demolish that old historical castle and build a 20 meters wide track with a modern glass tower in substitution.
brotkasten
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Planet F1 has compiled a gallery of Pastor's top 10 crashes since he joined F1 5 years ago.
http://planetf1.com/galleries/maldonados-top-ten-crashes/
So sad to see him without a team. But again, I'm sure Sauber will pick him up.
And for some real news, Max Verstappen is not going to be the youngest driver in the paddock anymore, as Force India signs Nikita Mazepin, 16 years old, as a development driver. He's only going to attend races and spent time in the simulator. The young lad just graduated from karting to Formula Renault last year. I'm sure he and the team can learn a lot from each other.
http://planetf1.com/galleries/maldonados-top-ten-crashes/
So sad to see him without a team. But again, I'm sure Sauber will pick him up.
And for some real news, Max Verstappen is not going to be the youngest driver in the paddock anymore, as Force India signs Nikita Mazepin, 16 years old, as a development driver. He's only going to attend races and spent time in the simulator. The young lad just graduated from karting to Formula Renault last year. I'm sure he and the team can learn a lot from each other.
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