Psychotext
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After seeing the Williams I'm now a little scared that Merc are going to be even further ahead this year.
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The Formula 1 Off-Season |OT| Haas to get better, right?
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In sport, you're only as good as your last event. I'll believe it when I see it.
brotkasten
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Because they've failed spectacularly last season and they made ridiculous promises over the season that turned out to be nothing but hot air, smoke and fire.
You have a limit in distance (150 km) and you are using tyres from last season. And if I recall correctly, you have one or two 'filming' days each season
Here is a nice side comparison picture of 2015 and 2016 Williams car - http://s43.photobucket.com/user/loofer/media/williams_zpsybztvkpn.jpg.html (by user Boing92 from Autosport forum)
First blurry pic of W07 and video
Psychotext
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Funny thing is, Honda last year would never have managed to do 150km anyway. I assume you must be limited to a day also, because they'd have been out there a month shaking the car down. 
Fair enough, but all the teams make promises that don't materialise constantly. Obviously they were not going to dominate in the first season of their return, but there's no reason I can see that they can't improve enough to compete.
Psychotext
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They were making promises whilst being proven wrong at exactly the same time. It was ridiculous. Farcical even.
massivekettle
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Williams has not introduced their new nose yet, though. Rumoured to be "Mercedes-style".
And obviously we won't have new front/rear wings, bargeboards, final floor, etc. until pretty much the final test or FP1 in Melbourne.
Interesting to see if Ferrari can beat Mercedes there. I believe their PU was more efficient last year which allowed Ferrari to run more aggressive cooling solutions.
brotkasten
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There's pep-talk and promises and then there's being delusional.
Pretty much.
"But maybe in Monaco or Canada we will have a much better chance of getting points, and then to achieve a podium in the middle of the season - we hope.
"It is a very important home race at Silverstone - high-speed corners, average speed is so high - so we want to achieve that target by the middle of the European season."
Asked of Arai whether he felt Ferrari and Williams could be caught in 2015, he replied: "Yeah, sure."
And Mercedes? "By the end of the season we should achieve that. That is our aim, the target," responded Arai.
I don't even need to bold anything, because all of it is ridiculous.
Better quality SkySports snippet
Nose is new, winged cameras are gone
Nose is new, winged cameras are gone
Well, we will see how Ferrari improved their PU with their big changes and how much cooling will it needed. Enlarged cooling inlets on W07 and Williams are quite telling that Mercedes probably made quite a performance step for 2016
massivekettle
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Well, they are most certainly not using 2015 spec camera mounts (that raised ones, that served as aero device), because FIA banned those
Seems a fairly wishy washy statement to me, lots of maybes, hope and 'targets'. What did you want them to say, "We are going to be c-tier trash all season, please understand"
brotkasten
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Seems a fairly wishy washy statement to me, lots of maybes, hope and 'targets'. What did you want them to say, "We are going to be c-tier trash all season, please understand"
Maybe don't talk about podiums and beating Williams, Ferrari AND Mercedes, when you can't finish races due to reliability issues.
He's just shooting for the moon, got to keep a brave face on it for sponsorship reasons too. Ah well, time will tell, I wish them the best.
It's a sport at the cutting edge of technology and they just waltzed in, touting all those grand figures when they couldn't even get the car to run more than 5 laps without blowing up the engine, it was just a farce.
When you're facing a difficult time you can be optimistic and "make it look good" for sponsors but still be reasonable.
Honda were just completely out of touch with reality and it lost them all credibility.
I too remain very skeptic at the figures they're announcing for 2016...
The Williams looks strangely familiar (very similar to 2015, not that it's a bad thing), more complex at the rear end but the sides are really cut down quite a bit compared to 2015, that's good news for Mercedes powered cars.
Now onto Ferrari in 5minutes, I hope they have something good in store !
When you're facing a difficult time you can be optimistic and "make it look good" for sponsors but still be reasonable.
Honda were just completely out of touch with reality and it lost them all credibility.
I too remain very skeptic at the figures they're announcing for 2016...
The Williams looks strangely familiar (very similar to 2015, not that it's a bad thing), more complex at the rear end but the sides are really cut down quite a bit compared to 2015, that's good news for Mercedes powered cars.
Now onto Ferrari in 5minutes, I hope they have something good in store !
brotkasten
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They completely redesigned the streaming system. It's going to be great.
Why can't any of these F1 companies get some proper streaming?
I mean, YouTube is literally right there, all the servers in the world at their disposal. But no, have to have your own stream on your own website running on a single Amazon VPS, because fuck it, that can handle ten thousand simultaneous streams, right?
As a web dev I feel confident in saying that anyone responsible for this failed attempt at a live stream should be sacked instantly, you utterly suck at your job.
I mean, YouTube is literally right there, all the servers in the world at their disposal. But no, have to have your own stream on your own website running on a single Amazon VPS, because fuck it, that can handle ten thousand simultaneous streams, right?
As a web dev I feel confident in saying that anyone responsible for this failed attempt at a live stream should be sacked instantly, you utterly suck at your job.
Is it a push-rod or pull-rod stream?
edit: Why does the car look like it's twice as long?
If their data link between race track and factory is as bad as this....
massivekettle
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Yet another penis nose?
massivekettle
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Is it confirmed that this is a placeholder nose?
Livery is ugly, but that backend is very, very tight. That undercut....
Livery is ugly, but that backend is very, very tight. That undercut....
massivekettle
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Watch in Italian...
Psychotext
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Not as slim as I was expecting at the back.
Edit - Actually, wow, that's a massive gap under where the suspension attaches.
Edit - Actually, wow, that's a massive gap under where the suspension attaches.
But then I can't actually hear what anyone is saying :lol:
brotkasten
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massivekettle
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https://twitter.com/MercedesAMGF1/status/700658666857365505
Freeze at 0:08. Back-end/engine cover/sidepods look quite a bit slimmer than last year.
Freeze at 0:08. Back-end/engine cover/sidepods look quite a bit slimmer than last year.
brotkasten
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Tobias Grüner ‏@tgruener 4m4 minutes ago
Ferrari SF-16H: Short nose, pushrod front suspension, reshaped sidepods, narrower rear end.
Ferrari SF-16H: Short nose, pushrod front suspension, reshaped sidepods, narrower rear end.
RaySpencer
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