SecretMoblin
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Well that's the whole kit and caboodle right there. Can't really brush that aside. Mariah's runs typically require more skill and fit into more complex melodies. There's also a more improvisational aspect to them, and on that level I'd say that Mariah has much more in common with how Christina does runs than Beyonce. Mariah's cleaner and more refined, yes, but both she and Christina have a soulful, gospel quality to the way they approach runs - extreme dynamics and shift in volume and note duration (I'm pretty sure there's a more proper, one-word term in italian for what I just described, but whatever). As opposed to Beyonce, whose runs tend to be a bit more basic
(which makes it all the more annoying when she overdoes them, but that's just me.)
For example, Mariah here (My favorite Mimi run, btw) and Christina here have more in common than the type of run Beyonce tends to stick to - which is really going up and down a scale with some flourish, and not full-on interpretive moments that Mimi and Christina go for.
I disagree about it sounding out of place. To me, the way Christina does runs is very "churchy" and soulful, which is a tradition in the genres she's always dabbled in (Pop/R&B). Same goes for Mariah. The runs and the music have a similar context, and so they fit for me. In fact, Back To Basics is an entire album based on the type of music that inspired the way that she sings, and it works. That "Ain't No Other Man" video I linked above is a great example. Those are some of her most superfluous runs, but you can't say they don't fit that jazzy arrangement and those live horns. The run she starts that song off with is also an example her belting into an impressive run without a hint of strain. Here's her doing it again (and even going a bit higher).
And those types of runs require way more improvisational skill to pull off than what Beyonce does, because it is so much easier to spiral off melody or sound bad. Of course, in the case of all these singers these performances have been rehearsed to hell and back, so nobody's actually improvising here.
Beyonce's style of runs I would describe as...I dunno, classical? To me it sounds weird to hear her randomly run up the chromatic scale while singing an R&B song.
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by adding the Rih, kyon is stating that my response is a rushed mess without any depth or artistic vision
gurl BYE
Mmm... please work with UK peeps only Rih. They have FRESH ideas.
It's hilarious how his retorts went beyond being just painfully stale to inapplicable random rubbish
RIHANNA - Where Have You Been: 108.680 (+ 2.782)
What kind of highest radio update of the day for a song that apparently isn't a hit?
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The hater's faces right now:
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The #Navi right now:
And speaking of Robyn, who is this godawful Rye Rye mess and why did Robyn allow her to fuck up Be Mine! with such terrible production and lyrics? AND WHY DID SHE APPEAR IN THE VIDEO? She's so obviously better than that nasty hoe. At least she looks good.
Here's one of the many great versions of "Be Mine!" to compare/contrast.
I had a dream Britney started recording again.
Needless to say my Brit-dreams are usually prophetic so ya'll better hold on to your wigs gurls!!
Good God I hope she doesn't.
Did you make that beat?
I don't know, but my guess is that it wasn't about any specific relationship.Is this about a real relationship she had (or rather didn't have)?
Good God I hope she doesn't.
Is this about a real relationship she had (or rather didn't have)?
Robyn described how the song came about: "Throughout making this album, one of the big inspirations for making it was to go back to being a teenager and how dramatic life was at some points. The first time you get heartbroken, it's really something most people remember for the rest of their lives. When we wrote the song we started to write this sad love song, to make it really obvious what the emotion we were talking about was we both thought going back to the teenagers state of mind would be a really good way of communicating this feeling."
Not here for the Loreena Bobbitt stanning.
Just as bad as the Miley tatt guy. But at least Miley has had some hits over here.
Why? I thought you like Brit-Brit?
Here's one of the many great versions of "Be Mine!" to compare/contrast.
There was this rumor/blind itemDon't get me wrong: I'm a HUGE fan of Britney.
But that's just it: I'm a fan of Britney. Not Shellney.
What we have now is an empty shell that people desperately want to believe is Britney Spears. Her personality is gone (and no, making "cute faces" at Simon and telling an old duet partner it's "Ok to be gay" is not personality. At this rate she'll be a more vapid judge than JLo was on Idol.) Her music becomes more and more impersonal with each album and - if I'm being honest with myself - I did not enjoy Femme Fatale as much as I wanted to, and I don't see her albums getting better if she continues recording in this state. Her performance ability, once her BIGGEST strength next to her endearing personality, has LONG been a thing of the past. Hell, she can't even muster up the strength to record a damn Vimeo ad spot with an ounce of professionalism.
The thing I've had to come to grips with during the Femme Fatale era and after was that no matter how much her people try to disguise it, and no matter how much her stans want to pretend she's A-OK. She's not.
This is a woman who can't do an interview without having questions pre-screened and have had people refuse to interview her because of it.
This is a woman who LITERALLY has had her LIFE signed over to TWO MEN.
That is NOT normal.
That is NOT a sign of a woman who is OK.
This couldn't be even further from the strong, independent performer I fell in love with in high school. And I'm getting sick of the people around her constantly thrusting her out in front of the spotlight.
I love and respect Britney and everything she's accomplished, but these days she become the POSTER CHILD of everything this industry can take away from you if you let it. She's literally been chewed up and spit out by the Fame Monster.
I want Britney to go the fuck away for a while. Be with her family. Relax so her face isn't settled into that perma-frown she's ALWAYS sporting these days. REGAIN CONTROL OF HER OWN DAMN LIFE. And maybe then she'll regain some of the genuine passion she had for her career (because she certainly doesn't have a shred left now), and then she can come back and slay like she used to.
That way I can stan for her not out of pity, but because she's being genuinely fierce again.
Not here for the Loreena Bobbitt stanning. ... at least Miley has had some hits over here.
The Cherrytree Sessions - 2009
"Be Mine! (LIVE Acoustic Version)" 4:32
It's okay to enjoy this.
You're in luck; the Rakamonie and Be Mine! UK single versions are the exact same!I imported the UK CD single of "Be Mine" to get the ballad version of "Be Mine"... at the time I couldn't even find that version on iTunes... or even illegally online... only on 1 single youtube video, so I imported it.
*sigh* I later found out she released a ballad version on the Rakamonie EP... but I'm not sure if it's the same mix that was on the UK single... I know CherryTree Sessions version is different.
Be Mine UK CD single - 2008
"Be Mine!" (Ballad Version) 4:10
The Rakamonie EP - 2008 in US
"Be Mine!" (ballad version) 4:08
The Cherrytree Sessions - 2009
"Be Mine! (LIVE Acoustic Version)" 4:32
Not really POP. But I'm trying to get through Justice's audio video disco record right now.
DAFAQ, what did they do to their sound???? This shit is vile. † was amazing. Such a shame.
Cosmic :*)
Also, unless I'm recalling things incorrectly (which is entirely possible!) B-Dex, you're Australian;
no she didn't go in. No she didn't try this wig tonight. Let me take a BREATHER. I need to RECOVER from this
no she didn't go in. No she didn't try this wig tonight. Let me take a BREATHER. I need to RECOVER from this
God FORBID if I have to go in on Xtina stans I will if it gets THERE. Keep it ALL THE WAY CUTE and STAY SEATED or you will be DRAGGED down this Bitch harder than YOUR FAVES place or LACK THERE OF on the CHARTS.
kyon are you drunk
either way, you are amazing right now
I still think you're amazing
Lessors who come for Godney again your struggling attempts will only be in VAIN. If your fave doesn't EXIST don't even TRY coming for her (Xtina stans ESPECIALLY as of LATE) when it was GODNEY herself who KILLED Ur fave oh so many years ago. And is currently doing it AGAIN. A warning to peasants who's fave will always come LAST especially when Britney is AROUND. Which will be ALWAYS. When the NOISE comes back it will only be but a damn WHISPER in views and ratings. Xfactor will DESTROY your faves only CHANCE that she had to BE RELEVANT. So don't throw your ANGER at any one else's faves because even CARLY RAE had a number one by HERSELF and she didn't need a REALITY SHOW to do it. Don't get dragged tonight. You won't RECOVER. Stay in the SIDLEINES where your fave has always BEEN and watch GODNEY once again do to your fave what she never thought would happen again. You all will DEAL. Xtina is but an INSECT. She will ALWAYS be in Godneys SHADOW. SALIVATE the last few moments that your fave has left. Because in a few months she will be DUST.
Edit: This is to Roy or any other 3 Xtina stan who steps out of line.