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The Game Awards 2016 Thread: Kojima Time Featuring The Kojimas

Iscariot

Member
I'm not entirely sure what this is referring to, but I've played over 100 hours and haven't spent a dime on anything other than the game itself and it's my goty.

Most gatcha games are F2P too. What does your personal purchase history have to do with my point?
 

Gorillaz

Member
I just want Blizz to actually put out more for it tho. This last push of arcade update was needed because having like 3 modes only in a game that already is low on content ( and maps) was insane.

Their entire content drop is insane in of itself.

edit: oh yea forgot about the lootboxes. Dudes out here doing youtube vids on 50 box unboxing with majority of them having dupes in it lol
 
Right, and that release date is drifting into the ether it seems. I just can't believe they didn't show any footage on the Switch. I mean, don't most devs make a playable demo even if the game isn't baked to show off what it will look like? I've been waiting for this game for years and I'm not seeing positive reinforcement here.

They haven't shown any Switch anything outside the reveal trailer. Wait until January.
 
Most gatcha games are F2P too. What does your personal purchase history have to do with my point?

That you don't have to spend shit cause everything is cosmetic.

There is no problem with Overwatch's model outside of arguably being able to directly buy the cosmetics you want.
 

Ellite25

Member
Most gatcha games are F2P too. What does your personal purchase history have to do with my point?
The game isn't F2P. Also, the micro transactions have no impact on the actual game itself. They only change the way characters look. So you may not like the way they're handle their completely option and affect nothing. You're not getting locked out of matches or characters by some arbitrary clock that you have to spend real money on to override. The game you buy is all you will ever need and nothing more. And we get new, free content. Game is fucking awesome.
 

Wensih

Member
It also has a micro transaction system that's straight out of a gatcha mobile game. It's fucking gross.


Don't even pretend buying loot crates is on the same level as the microtransactions in freemium games. That level of exaggeration is fucking gross.
 

Iscariot

Member
It has nothing to do with a gatcha mobile game, for starters. You can find much worse examples of MTs in basically every other AAA game.

My point is simply that people cut that game a lot of slack for using a loot crate real money system. I don't care that you can find worse examples, I never even contended it was the most egregious.
 
I just want Blizz to actually put out more for it tho. This last push of arcade update was needed because having like 3 modes only in a game that already is low on content ( and maps) was insane.

Their entire content drop is insane in of itself.

edit: oh yea that the lootboxes. Dudes out here doing youtube vids on 50 box unboxing with majority of them having dupes in it lol

The reason that the content comes out so slowly is because Overwatch is an incredibly difficult game to develop and balance. Every new map and mode must work for every character in the game without any one character getting a clear advantage. It's frustrating to wait for all the content to come out, but there's reasons it takes so long.
 

MUnited83

For you.
My point is simply that people cut that game a lot of slack for using a loot crate real money system. I don't care that you can find worse examples, I never even contended it was the most egregious.

I haven't had to pay a single cent for any crate just yet, and I've gotten literally hundreds upon hundreds upon hundreds of them.


Meanwhile I get all new content, heroes, modes, for free. I literally don't need to pay a single cent more for years and years of support.
 

Dmax3901

Member
Thought the show itself was great, although I was pretty disappointed with Mass Effect and the Zelda gameplay footage (trailer was great).

People getting upset about which game won is bizarre, every game nominated for GOTY deserved it, Overwatch is astounding and new and is 100% deserving IMO.
 

Wensih

Member
It uses the same basic gambling premise.

Freemium mobile games typically use wait timers to run up player's tab, making the system almost unavoidable if you want uninterrupted play. How is that like the microtransactions of Overwatch where, like others have stated, is purely cosmetic based and the player never has to interact with it to move on to the next game?
 

Iscariot

Member
I haven't had to pay a single cent for any crate just yet, and I've gotten literally hundreds upon hundreds upon hundreds of them.

I can only imagine your time played. What does that have to do with how it handles it's comestic purchases?

You people losing your shit like I said it was pay2win. I know you don't need to buy anything.
 

FLAguy954

Junior Member
I put 300 hours into Titanfall OG, but I still understood it's criticisms because it was fair and well-thought-out there just wasn't enough game there.

It's something like OverWatch can win then I don't want to ever hear an excuse again that there's not enough content in the game

I completely agree. The double standard of Titanfall 1 vs Overwatch is hypocritical as hell.
 

Wensih

Member
legitimately can't tell if this is serious post

I'm being very serious. The game has microtransactions but the way they are implemented is fundamentally different from something like candy crush or dungeon keepers. It's not a pay to win or pay to retry the level. So I do think overstating the impact of the microtransactions in Overwatch, calling it fucking gross and comparing it to how they're typically used in the mobile market is disingenuous.
 
shavebot ought to have had his turn at the mic

🎵 🎤 Shave and a haircut, two bits,
cow and a milkmaid, six tits 🎤 🎵
 

Iscariot

Member
Freemium mobile games typically use wait timers to run up player's tab, making the system almost unavoidable if you want uninterrupted play. How is that like the microtransactions of Overwatch where, like others have stated, is purely cosmetic based and the player never has to interact with it to move on to the next game?

I'm speaking of draw systems many of those games employ, not the "energy" or whatever metric they might use to gate. The cosmetics are random drops, that's the part I find problematic.
 

Nikana

Go Go Neo Rangers!
The reason that the content comes out so slowly is because Overwatch is an incredibly difficult game to develop and balance. Every new map and mode must work for every character in the game without any one character getting a clear advantage. It's frustrating to wait for all the content to come out, but there's reasons it takes so long.

I don't buy it. OverWatch had plenty of time to make more content available at launch that excuse is just not going to work for me.

Blizzard is an extremely large company with the resources to develop more content than almost any other developer on the planet. They didn't have a campaign or even lore to create. They only had to worry about maps and characters and it's still underperformed.
 

Bolivar687

Banned
I don't buy it. OverWatch had plenty of time to make more content available at launch that excuse is just not going to work for me.

Blizzard is an extremely large company with the resources to develop more content than almost any other developer on the planet. They didn't have a campaign or even lore to create. They only had to worry about maps and characters and it's still underperformed.

I kind of really hate what Blizzard has become.
 

robotrock

Banned
the overwatch director said "i have to thank the amazing community for this award"

and i thought "you probably haven't had the same experience i've had"

but then he said "dicks out for harambe!"

and i guess he is the the shit community i've been playing with for the past six months
 

Coldsun

Banned
the overwatch director said "i have to thank the amazing community for this award"

and i thought "you probably haven't had the same experience i've had"

but then he said "dicks out for harambe!"

and i guess he is the the shit community i've been playing with for the past six months

Are you really suprised by Kaplan? His everquest name was Tigole Bitties. I mean come on now. He hasn't changed.
 

Corpekata

Banned
Ok, then tell me what other cinematic action games were released this year bar Uncharted?

Quantum Break? Gears? Both games clearly wearing their Uncharted inspiration on their sleeves even, especially the former. Mafia 3 when it's actually good. Rise of the Tomb Raider on PS4.

And that's not even addressing the numerous cinematic first person games.
 

Iscariot

Member
I mean it's not great, but it's not like any of the bullshit freemium games out there.

Those micro-transactions affect the gameplay, these do not.

I agree that pay2win is the worst of the evils, but I really don't follow how people are so forgiving of a loot crate system especially considering the developer and nature of the product.
 
I think Overwatch is a fun game. I think it's the most fun game I've played all year. Hell I think Overwatch is my game of the year, because it provided me the most enjoyment this year.

Cheezits crust can't people just like a game because it's fun anymore? And yes fun is an opinion.

Always having to put everything into little compartments, this game is this and that game is that.

Oh and another thing. Calling people racist in this thread because they don't like music you like.... grow up. I hated the first music act. And not because the group had a black guy in it. But because I personally thought it was terrible music.
 
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