CarbonatedFalcon
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If Riker doesn't have a beard, you're not gonna have a good time.
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The General Star Trek Thread of Earl Grey Tea, Baseball, and KHHHAAAANNNN
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If Riker doesn't have a beard, you're not gonna have a good time.
If by best you mean most deathly boring.
DrForester
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DS9's first season is good in retrospect because a whole lot is introduced that has payoffs later.
DrForester
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I'd agree with that. Season 2 of DS9 didn't really have anything going for it except foreshadowing.
Mr. Luchador
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This Temporal Cold War thing is interesting, I sort of want to believe it's tied into the Star Trek movie, but I know it won't be.
davepoobond
you can't put a price on sparks
Mr. Luchador
Member
I had been warned how Enterprise 'ends' :\
The Librarian
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No, best as in quality. It has the best pilot, best final two episodes of any first season (with one being one of Star Trek's best), and doesn't have any that ranks as Star Trek's worst unlike Mudd's Women. It also has "Progress."
DrForester
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Oh man, there were some cheesy promos for these shows.
Trailer promoting DS9's final chapter.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C3fObaejFOE
On a side note, I like how Netflix lists the final episodes of DS9 as parts 1-9
Trailer promoting DS9's final chapter.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C3fObaejFOE
On a side note, I like how Netflix lists the final episodes of DS9 as parts 1-9
davepoobond
you can't put a price on sparks
the fourth season is how i envisioned the whole series to be before I watched it, more or less. Season 1 was probably fine as it was, but after that I wanted it to be more about the original Federation groups and how they came together. Its too bad it was all rushed and jammed into the last season only.
The Librarian
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I couldn't even finish that. So terrible!
Just don't watch the very last episode, and you'll leave the series happy. The episode before is actually a damn good sendoff for the show, and you can tell that story was going to be the finale before Berman and Braga decided to drop trou and shit all over the show's fanbase.
SpoonyBard
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The City on the Edge of Forever alone is better than the whole first season of ds9. And hell, the second half of season 1 has Errand of Mercy and Space Seed, amongst others, I really can't see how any other series can even compete...
Alternatively, download the version which splices out the TNG stuff and recombines it with the original TNG episode. So you get one short ENT episode and one long TNG.
The Librarian
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I'd take Duet over any of those.
The Librarian
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What edit? I didn't change what I said.
SpoonyBard
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Do you also prefer Dax to Spock or Data?
The Librarian
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Dax wasn't all that developed in S1, but O'Brien is a better character than Spock and Data. S1 also has Kai Winn, Dukat, and Garak. /swoon
It just looked like you were backing down from a direct challenge to TCotEoF (though I guess you broadened the challenge). I didn't mean to imply you said anything wrong!
The Librarian
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Duet is a better episode than Edge of Forever. I realize it's a classic Trek episode, and I appreciate it for what it is, but the writing doesn't hold up.
It has nothing to do with it being mine. But there is no question the most common answer for best trek first season from trek fans is TOS. You can like DS9's season 1 better but that isn't the norm on these sort of things.
Escape Goat
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None of the Trek first seasons were good. DS9 was the least deathly boringest.
StalkerUKCG
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Kai Winn is the most annoying character in anything ever.
I never heard season one of TOS described as boring, let alone not good before. It is easily the best of its 3 seasons and one of the greatest ever seasons in trek. The City on The Edge of Forever, Where No Man Has Gone Before, Balance of Terror, The Devil in the Dark....all time Trek classic episodes one after another.
DrForester
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Some of you apparently forget the original series when talking best first season.
Space Seed
Balance of Terror
City on the Edge of Forever
Arena
Space Seed
Balance of Terror
City on the Edge of Forever
Arena
God I even forgot Space Seed and Arena. TOS Season 1 is incredible.
DrForester
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O'Brien is far and away the must human character in the entire franchise.
Kai Winn served her purpose in the franchise, and her character was exactly what it needed to be.
The Librarian
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Matched by some very low episodes like Mudd's Women, Miri, and What are Little Girls Made of?.
The Squire of Gothos is a lot of fun though.
I love how the Star Trek EU established that Trelane from the Squire of Gothos is a member of the Q Continuum.
SpoonyBard
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Come on, there is reasons why one of those is considered an all time classic and one is just a fan favourite. Saying that the writing doesn't hold up is a cop-out. TV writing in the early 90's was not really that impressive either, and suspension of disbelief is always needed with these shows.
The Librarian
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Also, I just laugh at the ending to "Where No Man has Gone before." Mitchell becomes very powerful, yet he's defeated when a giant rock falls on him.
The only reason anything happens in that episode is because Bones is the clumsiest doctor in the universe.
The only reason anything happens in that episode is because Bones is the clumsiest doctor in the universe.
It's a great episode because it deals with Kirk's friendship and the question of whether absolute power corrupts absolutely.
I'm not even sure what you're talking about with Bones. It's possible I forgot that part. I do recall Sally Kellerman's character weakening Mitchell to the point where a rockslide would kill him.
StalkerUKCG
Banned
Space Seed is god tier.
lazybones18
Banned
For one night only (Apr. 25), Best of Both Worlds (both Part 1 & 2) in theaters remastered
http://www.fathomevents.com/#!star-trek-best-of-both-worlds/more-info/details
http://www.fathomevents.com/#!star-trek-best-of-both-worlds/more-info/details
The Librarian
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If we're excluding DS9 S4-S7, TNG S3-S7, sure.
DrForester
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one of their greatest war criminals dying and getting a celebrated state funeral apparently flew past their intelligence network.
TNG S7 was nothing special outside the finale.
Seriously. Absolutely absurd to even consider TOS' S1 as boring. DS9 spends about as many episodes having absolutely nothing happen as there were episodes of TOS.
The Librarian
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It's hard to have a comprehensive intelligence network that stretches lightyears when you're just a bunch of terrorist cells. If not that, it works even if they knew. They didn't have Dar'heel's DNA on file, and he looked exactly like the general.
Hm. True, but Preemptive Strike was godly.
I was worried about being laughed out of the thread for suggesting it
Like I'm not saying it's a good season but it's just less bad than the others.
And Lower Decks, awesome episode. Really, really good.
Gambit was good too, as was Parallels, The Pegasus and Thine Own Self.
The Librarian
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Bought two tickets for the theater in Wilmington. Get excited!
StopMakingSense
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Also has some real stinkers.
The sad thing is, the final episode of Enterprise is a great concept for an episode of Enterprise, but it shouldn't have been the series finale.