DrForester
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It never should have been made. The concept had merit, but should have been abandoned the minute any of them looked at Sirtis and Frakes and realized these two are unable to play their characters from 15 years ago.
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The General Star Trek Thread of Earl Grey Tea, Baseball, and KHHHAAAANNNN
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It never should have been made. The concept had merit, but should have been abandoned the minute any of them looked at Sirtis and Frakes and realized these two are unable to play their characters from 15 years ago.
The Librarian
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Could've worked with members from Voyager. They would've been young enough.
DrForester
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Janeway learning her crappy style of leadership from Archer...
Janeway learning the finer points of genocide from Archer...
Oh man, it all fits!
As much as I dread it, I need to watch all of Voyager and Enterprise one day. My local Fox station aired Voyager during its run, but then they dropped it for some reason in the middle of the third season. They finally got it back around the fifth or sixth season, but by then I had missed so much that I never watched much of it. Then, my cable provider dropped UPN during the second season and Enterprise and I didn't get it back until the fourth season.
DrForester
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Voyager got much more watchable in season 3 and on. Still a ton of crap to sift through, but at least the show found it's footing a bit better.
StalkerUKCG
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Season 7 of TNG has some Good episode outside of the final
Descent pt II
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Parallels
The Pegasus
No doubt its got some stinkers like "Masks"
I like much of voyager. The crew felt much more like a family than the other shows crews.
Descent pt II
Attached
Parallels
The Pegasus
No doubt its got some stinkers like "Masks"
I like much of voyager. The crew felt much more like a family than the other shows crews.
Jay Shadow
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That's actually how the listed them in tv guides at the time they aired too. Now it would just be your average tv show, but back then it was a big deal.
sfdebris sums up the show nicely in his review if you watch them, enterprise is a story of archers descent into paranoid delusions where there is only one competent crewman on board but he is slightly distracted by his fetish for blowing things up.
http://sfdebris.com/videos/startrek.asp
The farscape vids are pretty good too.
bullshit the show is good you should watch it
And Phlox. And Shran.
SpoonyBard
Banned
He was never as likeable as Zoidberg, no matter how similar the characters were...
XANDER CAGE
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Holy shit A Matter of Perspective is a bad episode. Damn.
5 was shaping up to be potentially good, a pity we never got it.
DrForester
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T'Pol wasn't likeable, just entertaining. It was quite a sight to see the worst actor the franchise has ever had in a lead role suck so badly.
StalkerUKCG
Banned
Without Archer I cant see anything redeeming about Enterprise
pants
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By likeable I meant hot. I actually thought Ensign Hoshi was hotter thinking back
Henchmen21
Banned
Really? It's not the greatest of season 3 but it's hardly bad.
Yeah I definitely had a thing for Hoshi.
Dat mirror universe uniform.
I really liked the character that had a thing for Phlox too, but the actress died...
CarbonatedFalcon
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Enterprise - S4/12 - Babel One (Part 1):
This episode was fairly entertaining. First part of a three-parter so not all that much happened besides plot setup, but (without spoiling it) the alien ship design was pretty awesome, and the twist at the end was decent as well.
This episode was fairly entertaining. First part of a three-parter so not all that much happened besides plot setup, but (without spoiling it) the alien ship design was pretty awesome, and the twist at the end was decent as well.
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There are sooooo many hotties in TNG. my goodness.
Archer, the most forgettable Captain ever?
I remember his dog's antics more than his personality
DrForester
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I don't think I would have had any interest in Archer if it weren't for Quantum Leap nostalgia.
Idiot even got a name drop in Star Trek: Nemesis, so did Kirk.
No love for The Sisko....
Idiot even got a name drop in Star Trek: Nemesis, so did Kirk.
No love for The Sisko....
DrForester
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Argument could be made that The Sisko is present in both timelines as well.
XANDER CAGE
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1. The aliens they are dealing with seem to have a judicial system based entirely around dramatic re-enactments.
2. Riker thinks the lady seduced him. The lady believes it was rape. Troi says "you're both telling the truth, from your own perspectives"
so uh
3. The guest star playing the doctor is Tommy Wiseau levels of hilarious. "FINE, WHADEVER"
I'm still pissed that when they had Dean Stockwell guest he never once smacked a PADD and called it Ziggy.
Dat Riker
Also, Beverly crushes (ha ha) most conventions as she gradually gets more attractive as she gets older.
Duane Cunningham
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Okay, so...
The Omega Glory - Well. Huh. This started out as a pretty good episode. The fellas find themselves involved in a typical scenario... a planet of primitives are fighting a war, this time the villagers are called the Khoms and the savages are the Yangs. A fellow Captain has gone rogue and he's in the middle of it, blah blah etc. The guys get thrown in a jail and have to escape and save the day.
It's all rolling along pretty well, and actually kind of shocking that the Asian dudes dressed like Genghis Khan are actually the good guys and the waspy white people are the savage, bad guys.
BUT then with ten minutes left, the episode goes flying head first off the deep end. Turns out, the Asians ARE the bad guys. And in fact, Kirk realizes that the Koms=Communists and Yangs=Yankees! In fact, the Yangs are fighting on behalf of their most sacred texts: the US Constitution and the Holy Bible! Their most treasured artifact is the American Flag! When this reveal happens, the score changes to a patriotic rendition of the Star Spangled Banner!
And unlike prior episodes with a similar premise (the people in Piece of the Action who were left with an old book about mobsters or the planet that was taught Nazism by the Federation historian in Patterns of Force), there's no explanation as to why this planet would possibly have a history that includes Earth history.
What we DO get is the mother of all hammy Shatner monologues, though! "We... the People... of the United States... of America..." Also, Spock becomes Professor X for one scene and is totally able to telepathically control a woman from across the room. Shrug.
And finally, the Prime Directive makes it's debut in what feels like a huge retcon. The renegade captain, Captain Tracy, is in hot water for violating it by giving phasers to the Khoms. However this, is just a couple of episodes after Kirk just gave several cases of flintlock rifles to one side of a pair of warring tribes on a similar planet! Not to mention a few episodes before that in The Apple where Kirk and Bones completely destroyed a peoples' way of life despite Spock's protests that even if they didn't agree with the culture, it was philosophically wrong to intervene. Which makes me realize that Roddenberry and crew were starting to form the idea of the Prime Directive at that point, but in this episode, they finally decided to just abruptly insert it as Federation protocol, and present it as though it had always been there.
Anyway, in conclusion, pretty good episode most of the way through, but then a crazy wtf ending.
Next up: The Ultimate Computer
EDIT: And kind of odd that it was Sulu left in charge of the ship when it's usually Scotty. Did they just flip a coin or something?
Not control, just "suggest". The rest came from Spock's swag. She wanted to obey him.
I like "Equilibrium." I'd say "The Search, Part II" is a much bigger clunker, with that shitty "it was all a simulation" ending.
Dat Riker
Also, Beverly crushes (ha ha) most conventions as she gradually gets more attractive as she gets older.
IDK what she looks like now but she was pretty damn attractive in the TNG movies too.
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OH MY GOD Q IS A HUMAN
THIS IS THE GREATEST EXPERIENCE OF MY LIFE
EAT ANY GOOD BOOKS LATELY?
Oh Christ, I'm super into Star Trek now.
THIS IS THE GREATEST EXPERIENCE OF MY LIFE
EAT ANY GOOD BOOKS LATELY?
Oh Christ, I'm super into Star Trek now.
Archer got a name drop (as well as his love for beagles) in Trek '09 as well! Kind of funny for the least popular of all the Trek series to get that sort of longevity.
Hell, there was even a end of movie scene written that was cut (it made it into the novelization) where Archer's beagle's lost transporter signal was found and it beamed aboard the Enterprise.
sonikokaruto
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The Librarian
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The episode with Kang, Kor, and Koloth was a lot of fun.
As much as ENT gets hate, I really like the theme and social issues explored in the first few seasons.
Seeing humanity transform to the society that we see in TNG was really cool. There's a lot of that great Sci Fi trick of examining modern sociological issues and problems by lifting the viewer out of the world and into a different one, which helps eliminates biases to better comprehend the discussion.
I felt at least on that level it delivered far more than either TOS or VOY did.
Seeing humanity transform to the society that we see in TNG was really cool. There's a lot of that great Sci Fi trick of examining modern sociological issues and problems by lifting the viewer out of the world and into a different one, which helps eliminates biases to better comprehend the discussion.
I felt at least on that level it delivered far more than either TOS or VOY did.
Escape Goat
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For someone who had so many experiences and lifetimes, Dax was probably the most boring main character on the show. I'd rather watch a Jake episode than a Dax.
StopMakingSense
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Not all of them, but quite a few of them.
SpoonyBard
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I give you Voyager (please take it), but I'll have to defent TOS again... This was exactly what TOS did most of the time, being Wagon Train in Space and all that. They even had the most heavy handed racism episode ever with the two guys who had half of their faces white and half black.
Voyager was too much action and stupidity, and DS9 soap opera and religion, without balls or wit to say anything important...
Escape Goat
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What? i don't think you missed a lot.