People seem to forget they did a terrible up-tempo version of the DS9 theme too starting with S4.
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People seem to forget they did a terrible up-tempo version of the DS9 theme too starting with S4.
:O I don't remember that. Maybe I skipped it so never twigged.
Mostly people just seemed angry there were words, which was silly.
Anyways, everything pales in comparison to the ST2 theme, so whatever.
Yeah its not been and not going to be get a HD release so the best you'll get is the DVDs.
If they would even just make new files from the masters it would look a lot better.
benjipwns
Banned
I read somewhere that Voyager is more likely (but still pretty low chance) to get a HD version because they actually started with (and kept) higher quality assets like everything in the credits is supposedly fine to just render at an HD resolution.
Not that the CG is used any better especially since a lot of it is LOOK AT THIS CG EFFECT for the first couple seasons. Even by the time they get to using Species 8472 regularly it's still jarring since they can't be in the same scene as anyone real for long.
Not that the CG is used any better especially since a lot of it is LOOK AT THIS CG EFFECT for the first couple seasons. Even by the time they get to using Species 8472 regularly it's still jarring since they can't be in the same scene as anyone real for long.
There was an article about how many of the CG assets for DS9 and Voyager were "overbuilt" and would not have to be redone from scratch. The biggest problem seems to be that since TNG's Blu Ray release wasn't a financial success, there's even less chance those would be.
benjipwns
Banned
I believe they saved the assets from Voyager so they can "just" re-render them higher and touch it up.
That's not the case for DS9 because the show was inbetween using CG and "regular" effects. Especially redoing all those War-era space battles would be hell...
I'm remembering this from an interview back when they started releasing TNG's so it might have changed or I might have it all wrong or something else entirely.
edit: well, see immediately above I guess
That's not the case for DS9 because the show was inbetween using CG and "regular" effects. Especially redoing all those War-era space battles would be hell...
I'm remembering this from an interview back when they started releasing TNG's so it might have changed or I might have it all wrong or something else entirely.
edit: well, see immediately above I guess
Ding ding. It's time-consuming and expensive to do, and for the less-popular shows it just doesn't make economic sense.
It's a shame, though. You could get fans to chip in with render hours and the like, but I imagine there's still a lot you need pros to do and that ain't cheap over that many hundreds of hours. Still a shame... there's plenty of good episodes of DS9 and Voyager that should be saved and seen in the best possible light.
I don't think the re render times are the expensive part, as in, if they've literally got the file and just need to render it, its not that expensive. Obviously redoing anything from scratch would be. For the remaster every reel of film needs to be digitised and then recut together and then worked on. That's a lot of work for a show that has as many episodes as these do.
Last year one of the VFX artists re-rendered the original DS9 CGI files as a test.
Direct download of all the footage:
http://www.mediafire.com/file/j3maj2fnj8lges6/ds9hdaudio.zip
Direct download of all the footage:
http://www.mediafire.com/file/j3maj2fnj8lges6/ds9hdaudio.zip
funkystudent
Member
I watched the pilot of Enterprise.
All the main characters are assholes.
All the main characters are assholes.
weemadarthur
Member
Then you can feel glad that they all end up stuck on a ship together for 4 years.
Also, Hoshi isn''t an asshole.
Eugh. Just finished seaon 3 of Enterprise. I was really enjoying it, till the last 20 seconds with more bloody time travel and alien space nazis.
Don't worry, things get better.
Berman and Braga got fired (edit: de facto replaced), so they (edit: were speculated to have thrown) that scene in to sabotage the series. The next two episodes aren't great, but they resolve things as well as possible and then move into a great season.Eugh. Just finished seaon 3 of Enterprise. I was really enjoying it, till the last 20 seconds with more bloody time travel and alien space nazis.
Except they weren't. What are you talking about?
Yeah its ok now, they have.
I would have been so fucking pissed off if that was the ending and I'd had to wait for the next season. I genuinely really enjoyed season 3, the episodes were well linked and felt like they were actually going somewhere and then that.
Fired was the wrong word, but http://memory-alpha.wikia.com/wiki/Rick_Berman
http://trekmovie.com/2007/08/12/vegascon-07-braga-reflects-on-a-life-with-trek/
No source on the sabotage part; that seems to just be speculation.Brannon Braga said:
Enjoyed season 4 so far but then I've just had In a Mirror Darkly 2 parter and just found I didn't care. Maybe because I felt it was time wasted considering there are only a few episodes left.
Shame that Evil in this was just dyed hair and visible midriffs rather than a more traditional goatee.
EDIT: Just finished my first ever complete watch of Enterprise. I enjoyed it a lot. However that last episode was shit.
Shame that Evil in this was just dyed hair and visible midriffs rather than a more traditional goatee.
EDIT: Just finished my first ever complete watch of Enterprise. I enjoyed it a lot. However that last episode was shit.
firehawk12
Subete no aware
I saw an interview and for some reason I thought it was the same one, but it's much more recent:
http://www.treknews.net/2017/02/02/why-ds9-voyager-not-on-blu-ray-hd/
Yeah, basically TNG lost money since people don't want to own media anymore and there's no way to make a restoration of the other shows, particularly the CG, viable.
I guess that's why they released the TNG "movies" seperately, to try to recoup the cost of doing documentaries and commentaries, since he makes it sound like a DS9 or Voyager style reunion feature is essentially impossible unless someone funds it.
Although, a neat bit of news is that Ira Behr is trying to get a DS9 documentary made.
Himynameischris
Member
Female aliens really didn't like wearing much clothes in TOS huh...lol I just watched the episode with the cloud city, it was nice seeing a different type of advanced civilization. A lot of the planets they visit are either old ruins or not very advanced.
Sucks the show only got 3 season, I've loved all of it so far.
Sucks the show only got 3 season, I've loved all of it so far.
The costume designer was gay as all hell, for what difference it makes.
Himynameischris
Member
Lots of female aliens in lots of the shows had minimal clothing. Not that they were aiming for a demographic at all lol.
Never forget the women on the planet in the Delta Quadrant that the Ferengi had landed on after going through the wormhole in TNG.
So much underboob.
Oh yeah and Edo was even worse lol
Well there were a lot of half naked men running around too lol
Ah yes. Another just plain weird episode.
Stallion Dan
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Lots of female aliens in lots of the shows had minimal clothing. Not that they were aiming for a demographic at all lol.
Never forget the women on the planet in the Delta Quadrant that the Ferengi had landed on after going through the wormhole in TNG.
So much underboob.
Is this from TNG or from Voyager? The latter makes sense as they basically ruled as gods and influenced the society, so being basically perverts...
It's interesting that the Ferengi basically being massive sexual fetishists of other races is pretty much the one repulsive thing about them that doesn't get heavily discussed, but then again there's the weird scenes where characters basically just jack off Ferengi to get what they want too, which bring up other ethical issues and also beg the question of how they ever became so good at wheeling and dealing if they're so easy to play.
Bill Theiss gave us the excellent "Theiss Titillation Theory".
firehawk12
Subete no aware
Yeah, imagine women just grabbing guy's crotches. lol
It's Voyager. False Profits.
I understanding it from the point of view of the universe, but lets not pretend that they aren't like that simply for the audience.
firehawk12
Subete no aware
I mean, Seven of Nine says it all.
That screenshot's from the Voyager episode.
In the TNG episode, Starfleet and the Ferengi were competing to buy a purportedly stable wormhole that led to the Gamma Quadrant. They sent through two ships, and Starfleet said "WTF? This isn't the Gamma Quadrant, it's the Delta Quadrant. Abort the mission and return home immediately." The Ferengi refused to abort and were stranded in the Delta Quadrant (fate unknown) when the wormhole jumped to a new location.
In the Voyager episode, Voyager bumped into the planet where the Ferengi had decided to make themselves comfortable, and the crew figured out how to harness the wormhole and hop a ride back to the Alpha Quadrant. But Janeway couldn't abide Ferengi acting like perverts (as in the screenshot), so she decided to abuse the might of her ship and drag the Ferengi back to the Alpha Quadrant against all law, and as the Ferengi kicked and screamed they fucked up the wormhole, eliminating Voyager's chance to get home, and getting themselves thrown to some other random part of the galaxy for them to corrupt. Janeway is a terrible captain.
I guess theoretically they "solved" the problem by basically keeping their women naked at home and prohibiting them from earning profit.
Stallion Dan
Member
Are they easy to play though, from what I remember of Quark he would be a bit more generous in his deals but still needed earn well out of them.
To be honest I remember a lot from that episode but not the women, I guess that scene is before they are revealed to the audience (and Voyager crew)? I don't think they got much screen time.
https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/what-we-left-behind-star-trek-deep-space-nine-doc#/
Is it just me or has Molly had work down around her lips and cheeks?
Is it just me or has Molly had work down around her lips and cheeks?
DrForester
Kills Photobucket
It's really, really sad to see that Avery Brooks isn't participating.
Stallion Dan
Member
Too much eccentric.
"Haha, Ira really dyed his beard purple" is what I got from that participant list.
Himynameischris
Member
Well that's just brilliant lol
firehawk12
Subete no aware
I guess that's the documentary that Burnett was talking about.
You know, maybe all fanfilms should just become "documentaries" to avoid the new fan film rules. lol
Leaked image of STD's Klingons.
Matches the BTS trailer
http://discovery.trekcore.com/gallery/displayimage.php?pid=201&fullsize=1
Hoping it's prior to them having their wigs put on.
Matches the BTS trailer
http://discovery.trekcore.com/gallery/displayimage.php?pid=201&fullsize=1
Hoping it's prior to them having their wigs put on.
Stallion Dan
Member
Look like JJ Klingons. Sod that. Also that guy not getting rehired I guess.
Leaked image of STD's Klingons.
Matches the BTS trailer
http://discovery.trekcore.com/gallery/displayimage.php?pid=201&fullsize=1
Hoping it's prior to them having their wigs put on.
That's an awful lot of stuff on the back of their heads to then have a wig over the top of it. Why bother?
Have to wonder what reason there is for the them looking so different from ENT and TOS, though I think at this point they might just be doing whatever the hell they want.
Master Thespian
Member
I'm probably in the minority but I don't want them to slavishly adhere the look of old shows. As long as the timeline is preserved, I think they should try to make the technology look as futuristic and the aliens as diverse as the budget will allow.
funkystudent
Member
I guess they look a little like the Abrams Klingons but you could also tell me they are some random alien and I would believe you too. They look lizard like.