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The General Star Trek Thread of Earl Grey Tea, Baseball, and KHHHAAAANNNN
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Henchmen21
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Not sure you really should admit to that lol.Jasoco said:
I started reading the TNG book "Immortal Coil" that takes place during the beginnings of the dominion war. It deals with A.I.s and the federation. It brings back the dude(Commander Bruce Maddox) that wanted to experiment on Data and the dude(Vice Admiral Anthony Haftel) that wanted to take Data's daughter.
It's kind of funny that Data reveals that there is a lot of player hating among A.I. scientists.
It's kind of funny that Data reveals that there is a lot of player hating among A.I. scientists.
JoshuaJSlone
Member
Nobody asked for this, but just in case:googleplex said:
Anticitizen One
Banned
Are there any books or comics set in the star trek 2009 universe? Aside from star trek countdown which is really a tng comic.
JoshuaJSlone
Member
I haven't read them, but in the style/length of Countdown there's also a Nero comic, plus one called Reflections about Spock. However, that last one is supposed to be about how his life brought him to where he is, so probably not a lot to do specifically with ST2009.Anticitizen One said:
There were several novels planned for release, and they must have at least been partially written, but they canceled them. I guess without it being clear where the movie sequel was going, they didn't want to start getting too much into the uncertain.
There have been a few young adult novels featuring the ST2009 characters under the Starfleet Academy name, but again I have not read them. Here's the product description at Amazon: "A new Starfleet Academy series for teens--filled with romance and adventure!" Just makes you want to drop eight dollars, huh?
Escape Goat
Member
Did you know...
...That Geordi LaForge is named after a real Star Trek fan named George LaForge? George LaForge died from muscular dystrophy in 1975.
...That Denise Crosby originally tried out for the role of Counselor Troi and Marina Sirtis tried out for the role of Security Chief Tasha Yar?
...That Gene Roddenberry's full name is Eugene Wesley Roddenberry, thus, in creating Wesley Crusher, Gene used his own middle name and based the character on what he wanted to be like when he was young?
...Industrial Light and Magic (ILM) did the special effect shots only for "Encounter at Farpoint". However, they get credit in every episode because of the extra stock footage for Enterprise fly-bys and such. Even ILM stock footage isn't used much anymore, except when the Enterprise enters Warp.
...TNG is filmed in 35mm using Panavision cameras. The film is transferred to videotape, and post-production is done on video.
...That William Riker and Deanna Troi is based upon Decker and Ilia from "Star Trek: The Motion Picture"?
...That while "Skin Of Evil" was aired after "Symbiosis", they were produced in the reverse order. Near the end of Symbiosis, when the Ornarans and Brekkians beam off, Denise Crosby is seen in the background, waving goodbye as the doors close. (UV)
...LeVar Burton, when shooting began for "The Best of Both Worlds, Part II", was in the hospital for emergency surgery. Colm Meany was used instead for several scenes, and LeVar appeared in closeups during BOBW2 and was absent for several episodes after that.
...LeVar Burton appeared on "Roots"? He's not the only one. Thalmus Rasulala, who played Captain Donald Varley of the USS Yamato in "Contagion", played Omoro Kinte in ROOTS. Also, Ben Vereen, who is also a Trek fan, also appeared on Roots.
...While filming "The Wounded", there was a scene in which Colm Meaney was serving Keiko steak and potatoes for dinner. The potatoes had to get from the spoon to the plate easily, while he continued with the dialogue, moved around, served himself, etc. After about a zillion takes, it finally worked, except that one small piece of potato bounced off the plate and onto the table. So, Colm improvised, and quickly popped it in his mouth. "Cut!" "What was wrong with that?" "Well, you popped that potato in your mouth." "Yeah, so?" "Well, you can't do that -- see, this is a self-cleaning ship." "I got to it FIRST."
...Hawking was on the Paramount lot for the video release of the film "A Brief History of Time". He was given a tour of the set, and when they reached the bridge set, he began tapping out something he wanted to say through his voice synthesizer. After about a minute, it said "Could you take me out of my chair and put me in the captain's chair?" Now, Hawking *never* asks to be taken out of his chair, so this was clearly a very big deal. Someone did, and a few days later the idea of a quick cameo came up for "Descent".
...That "Star Trek: The Next Generation" has made over $500,000,000 in syndication and merchandising.
...That if you look closely at the Enterprise during the fly-by in the opening credits, you can see someone walking past the windows. According to Mike Okuda in the "Star Trek: The Official Fan Club Magazine" (#60), this is Captain Picard.
..."The Child" and "Devil's Due" were originally scripts for the proposed "Star Trek: Phase II" television series. The "Star Trek: Phase II" series idea was scrapped, and instead, the sets were used for the shooting of "Star Trek: The Motion Picture"
...At the time of the filming of "Q Who", there were two visual supervisors: Dan Curry and Rob Legato. They each had their own specifications for the design of the Borg ship:
Rob Legato - The Borg ship should be a ball with a trench of detail around the middle.
Dan Curry - The Borg ship should be a cube that looked smooth at a distance. As you got closer and closer, more detail would be revealed. (Dan had hired Special Effects for this job).
Rob Legato team had some problems, so Special Effects got the job and built the Borg ship. It took 14 modelers two weeks to finish the job. That is nothing short of amazing when you consider that while the specifications called for only one side finished, Special Effects supplied a Borg ship that was finished on all sides. In order to achieve that level of detail, F/X put everything in they could find, including R2-D2, toy soldiers, plastic model "rails", and the F/X logo.
...The junkyard in "Unification II" consisted mostly of ships dragged out from wherever Mike Okuda could find 'em. Some of the models included: models from the unmade "Star Trek: Phase II" series, models from ILM that were never used, models of the Enterprise that didn't come out of the mold right, and a very unusual looking Enterprise. Some of the models were designed by Greg Jein and Robert McCall.
..."A Matter Of Time" was written partially because Robin Williams, a fan of the show, wanted to appear. However, when the script was ready for shooting, Robin was unavailable, so Matt Frewer was cast instead.
...That the shuttle Onizuka, which Data used in "Ensigns of Command", was named in tribute to one of the Space Shuttle "Challenger" astronauts.
...Gene died at the same time the crew was filming "Hero Worship"?
...The only episodes when William Riker was called Bill was in "The Naked Now" and "Haven"?
...Gates McFadden's stunts in "Remember Me" was done when she was pregnant but she did not know about it until days later.
...For "Relics", it was impossible to re-use the original bridge, partially because it was broken up and destroyed after the original series. Instead, they used a captain's chair and helm/navigation console build by a Star Trek fan named Steve Horch. The only other part that was built was from about a foot to the left of the turbolift to the end of Scotty's engineering station, as well as the railing that separates that from the center of the bridge. Also, the Con and Ops chairs were look-alikes, and are tilted back more than the real ones. The rest was a still from "This Side of Paradise", not "The Mark Of Gideon". Also, the Aldebran Whiskey was actually Hi-C Ecto Cooler.
...In "Booby Trap", the original name of the holographic scientist was to be Leah Daystrom, who was the great-great-granddaughter of Dr. Daystrom from TOS. However, after they cast Susan Gibney for the part, they changed the name to Brahms, and only made several references to The Daystrom Institute.
...In "Chain of Command", the thing inside the eggs that Picard and the Cardassian ate were dead squids with little machines under them to make them move.
...Andy Probert designed the Enterprise D, and owns the designs to the Enterprise. Paramount is using his designs with permission. You can see Andy in "Encounter at Farpoint", in the post-atomic court. Andy is the spectator wearing "a giant tribble", actually a very large fur hat.
...The original Wright plane was named.....BIRD OF PREY!
...The original 8-foot model of the Enterprise that was built by Industrial Light and Magic isn't used much anymore. For motion control work, the 4-foot model is much easier to use, is much more detailed, and, for far away shots, it's easier to make it seem far away. The original 8-foot model is used only for extreme closeups or for saucer separations. The 4-foot model was built by Greg Jein in the third season.
...The title "The Dauphin" comes from the French term "Le Dauphin" used to designate the male heir to the royal throne while the royalty was still in place in France.
...The reason that you keep seeing a lot of the same faces on TNG, Civil Wars, and (I think) L.A. Law is that the casting is all handled by the same casting director, Junie Lowrey-Smith (not sure of this name either), who likes to reuse a lot of the same actors.
...In "Deja Q", they had some problems filimg John DeLancie's nude scene. The director had him in a jockstrap, but couldn't film around the indentations it made in his skin because of the camera's perspective. Finally, he told everyone who was offended by nudity to leave the set, dropped the jock strap, and got the scene in one take. Incidentally, that scene was filmed at 7 AM, and the mariachi band scene at midnight.
..."Family" and "Liaisons" are the only episodes in TOS, the movies, and TNG which has no scenes filmed on the bridge.
..."Tin Man" was a life form borrowed from the "Wild Card" book series?
...In order to prepare for the episode "Chain Of Command, Part II", Patrick Stewart watched tapes from Amnesty International. These tapes included statements of those who had been tortured, and a long interview with a torturer who talked about what it was like to be inflicting pain.
...Robin Curtis was originally slated to play the female terrorist in "Starship Mine", but due to a conflicting shooting schedule, was unable to play the part. She, instead, appeared in "Gambit" as a Romulan.
...Sidney Poitier was originally wanted for the role of Geordi LaForge, but, due to a conflict in schedules, was unavailable. Ben Vereen, however, was available, and this episode was the first time Ben and LeVar had worked together since the mini-series "Roots."
...The transporter effect is accomplished as follows:
1) Fill a canister with water. Add glitter and shine a light through it. Stir briskly and tape.
2) Film the scene, first with the actor, then without. (Or vice versa)
3) Transfer the scene to tape, and use video technology to matte the glitter over the actor.
4) Use a video wipe to 'streak down' the glitter.
...The translation from "11001001" after Riker introduces them:
Riker: (indicating) "Minuet. Minuet, Captain Jean-Luc Picard."
Minuet: "Enchantee, comme c'est merveilleux de vous voir ici." / "Hi!, it's nice to meet you."
Picard: "Incoyable! Vous etes Parisienne?" / "You are from Paris?"
Minuet: "Au fond, c'est vrai nous sommes toutes Parisienne." / "Deep down we're all from Paris."
Picard: "Ah, oui, au fond nous sommes tous Parisiens." / "Ah yes, deep down we're all from Paris."
...The translation from "Time's Arrow":
Data (in English): "I am a Frenchman."
Poker Player: "Ah, mes parents sont originaires de Boubonnais. Je suis ne a la New Orleans." / "Ah, my parents are from Boubonnais. I was born in New Orleans."
Data: "Alors nous sommes presque freres. Je suis heureuz de vous connaitre." / "Then, we are almost brothers. I am pleased to meet you."
Poker Player (in English): "Please sir..."
...According to a November 1992 issue of "California Business" article, Paramount's annual first-run TNG gross advertising revenues are about $90 million, with production costs in the $31.2-$36.4 million range. Net annual advertising profits are between $30 and $60 million, without even counting the $70 million+ in licensing and affiliate station fees. TNG airs in 217 markets, with a 99% national coverage. Weekly viewership is in the 20 million range, bring in the most desirable of demographics.
**no idea how accurate these are
...That Geordi LaForge is named after a real Star Trek fan named George LaForge? George LaForge died from muscular dystrophy in 1975.
...That Denise Crosby originally tried out for the role of Counselor Troi and Marina Sirtis tried out for the role of Security Chief Tasha Yar?
...That Gene Roddenberry's full name is Eugene Wesley Roddenberry, thus, in creating Wesley Crusher, Gene used his own middle name and based the character on what he wanted to be like when he was young?
...Industrial Light and Magic (ILM) did the special effect shots only for "Encounter at Farpoint". However, they get credit in every episode because of the extra stock footage for Enterprise fly-bys and such. Even ILM stock footage isn't used much anymore, except when the Enterprise enters Warp.
...TNG is filmed in 35mm using Panavision cameras. The film is transferred to videotape, and post-production is done on video.
...That William Riker and Deanna Troi is based upon Decker and Ilia from "Star Trek: The Motion Picture"?
...That while "Skin Of Evil" was aired after "Symbiosis", they were produced in the reverse order. Near the end of Symbiosis, when the Ornarans and Brekkians beam off, Denise Crosby is seen in the background, waving goodbye as the doors close. (UV)
...LeVar Burton, when shooting began for "The Best of Both Worlds, Part II", was in the hospital for emergency surgery. Colm Meany was used instead for several scenes, and LeVar appeared in closeups during BOBW2 and was absent for several episodes after that.
...LeVar Burton appeared on "Roots"? He's not the only one. Thalmus Rasulala, who played Captain Donald Varley of the USS Yamato in "Contagion", played Omoro Kinte in ROOTS. Also, Ben Vereen, who is also a Trek fan, also appeared on Roots.
...While filming "The Wounded", there was a scene in which Colm Meaney was serving Keiko steak and potatoes for dinner. The potatoes had to get from the spoon to the plate easily, while he continued with the dialogue, moved around, served himself, etc. After about a zillion takes, it finally worked, except that one small piece of potato bounced off the plate and onto the table. So, Colm improvised, and quickly popped it in his mouth. "Cut!" "What was wrong with that?" "Well, you popped that potato in your mouth." "Yeah, so?" "Well, you can't do that -- see, this is a self-cleaning ship." "I got to it FIRST."
...Hawking was on the Paramount lot for the video release of the film "A Brief History of Time". He was given a tour of the set, and when they reached the bridge set, he began tapping out something he wanted to say through his voice synthesizer. After about a minute, it said "Could you take me out of my chair and put me in the captain's chair?" Now, Hawking *never* asks to be taken out of his chair, so this was clearly a very big deal. Someone did, and a few days later the idea of a quick cameo came up for "Descent".
...That "Star Trek: The Next Generation" has made over $500,000,000 in syndication and merchandising.
...That if you look closely at the Enterprise during the fly-by in the opening credits, you can see someone walking past the windows. According to Mike Okuda in the "Star Trek: The Official Fan Club Magazine" (#60), this is Captain Picard.
..."The Child" and "Devil's Due" were originally scripts for the proposed "Star Trek: Phase II" television series. The "Star Trek: Phase II" series idea was scrapped, and instead, the sets were used for the shooting of "Star Trek: The Motion Picture"
...At the time of the filming of "Q Who", there were two visual supervisors: Dan Curry and Rob Legato. They each had their own specifications for the design of the Borg ship:
Rob Legato - The Borg ship should be a ball with a trench of detail around the middle.
Dan Curry - The Borg ship should be a cube that looked smooth at a distance. As you got closer and closer, more detail would be revealed. (Dan had hired Special Effects for this job).
Rob Legato team had some problems, so Special Effects got the job and built the Borg ship. It took 14 modelers two weeks to finish the job. That is nothing short of amazing when you consider that while the specifications called for only one side finished, Special Effects supplied a Borg ship that was finished on all sides. In order to achieve that level of detail, F/X put everything in they could find, including R2-D2, toy soldiers, plastic model "rails", and the F/X logo.
...The junkyard in "Unification II" consisted mostly of ships dragged out from wherever Mike Okuda could find 'em. Some of the models included: models from the unmade "Star Trek: Phase II" series, models from ILM that were never used, models of the Enterprise that didn't come out of the mold right, and a very unusual looking Enterprise. Some of the models were designed by Greg Jein and Robert McCall.
..."A Matter Of Time" was written partially because Robin Williams, a fan of the show, wanted to appear. However, when the script was ready for shooting, Robin was unavailable, so Matt Frewer was cast instead.
...That the shuttle Onizuka, which Data used in "Ensigns of Command", was named in tribute to one of the Space Shuttle "Challenger" astronauts.
...Gene died at the same time the crew was filming "Hero Worship"?
...The only episodes when William Riker was called Bill was in "The Naked Now" and "Haven"?
...Gates McFadden's stunts in "Remember Me" was done when she was pregnant but she did not know about it until days later.
...For "Relics", it was impossible to re-use the original bridge, partially because it was broken up and destroyed after the original series. Instead, they used a captain's chair and helm/navigation console build by a Star Trek fan named Steve Horch. The only other part that was built was from about a foot to the left of the turbolift to the end of Scotty's engineering station, as well as the railing that separates that from the center of the bridge. Also, the Con and Ops chairs were look-alikes, and are tilted back more than the real ones. The rest was a still from "This Side of Paradise", not "The Mark Of Gideon". Also, the Aldebran Whiskey was actually Hi-C Ecto Cooler.
...In "Booby Trap", the original name of the holographic scientist was to be Leah Daystrom, who was the great-great-granddaughter of Dr. Daystrom from TOS. However, after they cast Susan Gibney for the part, they changed the name to Brahms, and only made several references to The Daystrom Institute.
...In "Chain of Command", the thing inside the eggs that Picard and the Cardassian ate were dead squids with little machines under them to make them move.
...Andy Probert designed the Enterprise D, and owns the designs to the Enterprise. Paramount is using his designs with permission. You can see Andy in "Encounter at Farpoint", in the post-atomic court. Andy is the spectator wearing "a giant tribble", actually a very large fur hat.
...The original Wright plane was named.....BIRD OF PREY!
...The original 8-foot model of the Enterprise that was built by Industrial Light and Magic isn't used much anymore. For motion control work, the 4-foot model is much easier to use, is much more detailed, and, for far away shots, it's easier to make it seem far away. The original 8-foot model is used only for extreme closeups or for saucer separations. The 4-foot model was built by Greg Jein in the third season.
...The title "The Dauphin" comes from the French term "Le Dauphin" used to designate the male heir to the royal throne while the royalty was still in place in France.
...The reason that you keep seeing a lot of the same faces on TNG, Civil Wars, and (I think) L.A. Law is that the casting is all handled by the same casting director, Junie Lowrey-Smith (not sure of this name either), who likes to reuse a lot of the same actors.
...In "Deja Q", they had some problems filimg John DeLancie's nude scene. The director had him in a jockstrap, but couldn't film around the indentations it made in his skin because of the camera's perspective. Finally, he told everyone who was offended by nudity to leave the set, dropped the jock strap, and got the scene in one take. Incidentally, that scene was filmed at 7 AM, and the mariachi band scene at midnight.
..."Family" and "Liaisons" are the only episodes in TOS, the movies, and TNG which has no scenes filmed on the bridge.
..."Tin Man" was a life form borrowed from the "Wild Card" book series?
...In order to prepare for the episode "Chain Of Command, Part II", Patrick Stewart watched tapes from Amnesty International. These tapes included statements of those who had been tortured, and a long interview with a torturer who talked about what it was like to be inflicting pain.
...Robin Curtis was originally slated to play the female terrorist in "Starship Mine", but due to a conflicting shooting schedule, was unable to play the part. She, instead, appeared in "Gambit" as a Romulan.
...Sidney Poitier was originally wanted for the role of Geordi LaForge, but, due to a conflict in schedules, was unavailable. Ben Vereen, however, was available, and this episode was the first time Ben and LeVar had worked together since the mini-series "Roots."
...The transporter effect is accomplished as follows:
1) Fill a canister with water. Add glitter and shine a light through it. Stir briskly and tape.
2) Film the scene, first with the actor, then without. (Or vice versa)
3) Transfer the scene to tape, and use video technology to matte the glitter over the actor.
4) Use a video wipe to 'streak down' the glitter.
...The translation from "11001001" after Riker introduces them:
Riker: (indicating) "Minuet. Minuet, Captain Jean-Luc Picard."
Minuet: "Enchantee, comme c'est merveilleux de vous voir ici." / "Hi!, it's nice to meet you."
Picard: "Incoyable! Vous etes Parisienne?" / "You are from Paris?"
Minuet: "Au fond, c'est vrai nous sommes toutes Parisienne." / "Deep down we're all from Paris."
Picard: "Ah, oui, au fond nous sommes tous Parisiens." / "Ah yes, deep down we're all from Paris."
...The translation from "Time's Arrow":
Data (in English): "I am a Frenchman."
Poker Player: "Ah, mes parents sont originaires de Boubonnais. Je suis ne a la New Orleans." / "Ah, my parents are from Boubonnais. I was born in New Orleans."
Data: "Alors nous sommes presque freres. Je suis heureuz de vous connaitre." / "Then, we are almost brothers. I am pleased to meet you."
Poker Player (in English): "Please sir..."
...According to a November 1992 issue of "California Business" article, Paramount's annual first-run TNG gross advertising revenues are about $90 million, with production costs in the $31.2-$36.4 million range. Net annual advertising profits are between $30 and $60 million, without even counting the $70 million+ in licensing and affiliate station fees. TNG airs in 217 markets, with a 99% national coverage. Weekly viewership is in the 20 million range, bring in the most desirable of demographics.
**no idea how accurate these are
DrForester
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No nearly enough cool casting trivia there.
Like James Earl Jones and Edward James Olmos being on the short list for Sisko and Picard (respectively)
Like James Earl Jones and Edward James Olmos being on the short list for Sisko and Picard (respectively)
Choppasmith
Member
Been watching repeats of TNG on BBC America. And damn, it's awesome to watch episodes I have either little to no recollection of or to see episodes I fondly remember as a kid, but understand better as an adult.
Plus the guest stars. Never knew the likes of Tony Jay (RIP) guest starred. Just today, I saw Corbin Benson (Shawn's dad on Psych) as "Q2". It blew my mind.
Plus the guest stars. Never knew the likes of Tony Jay (RIP) guest starred. Just today, I saw Corbin Benson (Shawn's dad on Psych) as "Q2". It blew my mind.
beelzebozo
Jealous Bastard
just watching some DS9. again. early episode, "babel"
i like chief o'brien so much that i feel like we're buddies.
i like chief o'brien so much that i feel like we're buddies.
DrForester
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Rifftrax will be releasing a riff to Star Trek II today.
benjipwns
Banned
How have I seen Krupa but not these? They're so terrible.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=414TmP12WAU
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=414TmP12WAU
FISH BEAT
Escape Goat
Member
Just saw this today. Also, beware searching "Kes Star trek" in google with adult content filter off. haha
The Librarian
Banned
AAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHH
JoshuaJSlone
Member
Even a few years after she'd left the show she was looking a bit heavier. When Kes returned for one episode and they had the segments that were supposed to take place a few years in the past, I definitely wasn't fooled that it was actually stuff from a few years prior.
Escape Goat
Member
Supposedly she dropped out of Hollywood and went back to school. So she didn't have any weight restrictions and gained weight like crazy. Sucks because it was garret wang that was supposed to get the boot. Fffffuuuuu Voyager.
The Librarian
Banned
Below is a link of a pretty comprehensive survey result done on Trek fans.
http://independent.academia.edu/DarylFrazetti/Papers/448772/Results_Star_Trek_Fandom_Survey
http://independent.academia.edu/DarylFrazetti/Papers/448772/Results_Star_Trek_Fandom_Survey
JoshuaJSlone
Member
It is not unusual for a book to start with quotes. But I was very jazzed to see the new Star Trek: Department of Temporal Investigations: Watching the Clock started with an Einstein quote, plus this:
DrForester
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DrForester
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Tobor said:
Work's sometimes. The Inception one was good. The Jurassic Park one with Weird Al was amazing.
Star Trek 2 one was pretty good. It's a great film, but lets be honest, all Star Trek is a bit cheesy.
DrForester
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Tobor said:
Well you could look at the MST3K movie then. This Island Earth was an oustanding Sci-Fi film for it's time.
Meus Renaissance
Member
Had the biggest crush on her. Wow, look at the comments about her convention appearance.
http://www.startrek.com/article/catching-up-with-jennifer-lien
http://www.startrek.com/article/catching-up-with-jennifer-lien
JoshuaJSlone
Member
A big reason: More chance people will actually have the movie. I imagine there are a lot more of us out there with, say, Star Trek II or Raiders of the Lost Ark DVDs than Dragon Wars: D-War or Glitter.Tobor said:
Mr. Pointy
Member
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=IjvYiSDJujA
Act-ING.
I love Avery Brooks. He is like the closest actor we've ever got to Shatner - the archetype to which all cultural icons are judged.
Act-ING.
I love Avery Brooks. He is like the closest actor we've ever got to Shatner - the archetype to which all cultural icons are judged.
JoshuaJSlone
Member
So I already made mention of the Department of Temporal Investigations book starts with a quote from Doctor Who. I think a few more references to non-Star Trek time travel are in here, though they're vague enough they don't have to be. During a bit which takes place in a vault of items the DTI has stored away for safekeeping there is
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and
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and
DrForester
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William Campbell died today (Trelane and Koloth actor from TOS and DS9)
Mama Robotnik
Member
RIP, I remember him being pretty awesome in both roles too.
DrForester
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Mama Robotnik said:
Was great when he came back for Koloth in Deep Space Nine 30 years later.
The Librarian
Banned
Rip, dude.
DrForester
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Kes wasn't the only one...
JoshuaJSlone
Member
I think Tom Paris and Drew Carey from a few years ago pulled a Tuvix.
benjipwns
Banned
So I randomly read on TVTropes that "Year of Hell" was supposed to be the entire fourth season of Voyager but was nixed by Paramount. There's nothing on Memory Alpha or anywhere else that I can seem to find to support this idea.
That said, imagine if that was true. Especially in the wake of "Scorpion", one of the instances where Voyager was pretty epic and compelling.
You also have to pretend that the Voyager writing staff were competent, but still...they'd do the reset at the end of the season. Actually, nevermind. Forget I mentioned any of this.
That said, imagine if that was true. Especially in the wake of "Scorpion", one of the instances where Voyager was pretty epic and compelling.
You also have to pretend that the Voyager writing staff were competent, but still...they'd do the reset at the end of the season. Actually, nevermind. Forget I mentioned any of this.