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The General Star Trek Thread of Earl Grey Tea, Baseball, and KHHHAAAANNNN
- Thread starter The Librarian
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In its pilot....
As for themes, the Star Trek II theme is the best Trek ever had, period. TMP/TNG theme is also good, but it pales in comparison. I don't think I'll ever see what people see in the DS9 or Voyager themes, I just find them dull and uninspired.
firehawk12
Subete no aware
I don't think it's fair to compare movie scores to TV scores based simply on the amount of work the TV composers have to do.
That, and Berman hated music interfering with the show.
That, and Berman hated music interfering with the show.
The Librarian
Banned
I think the DS9 and Voyager themes are as good as the themes from TNG and the movies.
Jerry (and Joel) Goldsmith and Dennis McCarthy <3
Jerry (and Joel) Goldsmith and Dennis McCarthy <3
Red Arremer
Member
I quite enjoyed Enterprise, if only for the Andorian episodes that made me squee. I really wish they would have stopped focusing so much on the Vulcans (I do understand why, but the series WAS supposed to show the founding of the Federation, in which the Andorians and Tellarites played part too, not only Earth and Vulcan).
Apparently Coto was thinking of making Shran a regular cast member in Season 5, which I would've been overjoyed with because I love the Andorians, so having one as main cast would've been awesome, and because I love Jeffrey Combs and most of the characters he portrays - Shran always had to be one of my favorites, though.
Apparently Coto was thinking of making Shran a regular cast member in Season 5, which I would've been overjoyed with because I love the Andorians, so having one as main cast would've been awesome, and because I love Jeffrey Combs and most of the characters he portrays - Shran always had to be one of my favorites, though.
I'm talking purely about opening themes. And I don't think it really matters how much work was put into them for this discussion, it's not like they can go back and put an extra day or two into them now and make them better. What's on the page is on the page.
Davey Cakes
Member
I enjoyed the DS9 theme, but prefer the original version and not the one from S4 onwards.
The same thing happened with Babylon 5; I preferred the S1 theme to the remixed S2 one.
The same thing happened with Babylon 5; I preferred the S1 theme to the remixed S2 one.
B5 had a completely different theme every season, it wasn't just a remix. My favourite was S4's iirc. S5's intro 'monologue' was also a favourite of mine.
I want Cmdr Tomalak or wtv his name was to show up again.
And speaking of B5, if you haven't seen it the actor who played Tomalak played a main character in it. One of the best characters in SF television history imo. Andreas Katsulas was incredible.
Davey Cakes
Member
Well, I guess it wasn't exactly a remix. It was basically a different take on the base of S1's theme. S4 was similar but did even more of its own thing.
My favorites are S3 and S4 and yeah, the monologue is the best part of S5's opening.
Oh wow, I can't believe I just realized that Tomalak and G'Kar are the same guy. Duhhh. I'm stupid.
And yeah, G'Kar is a fantastic character. Even in Season 5 I love every scene he's in.
thetrin
Hail, peons, for I have come as ambassador from the great and bountiful Blueberry Butt Explosion
I've never seen the pilot. I tend not to watch shows from the very start to the very end. Especially with Star Trek, I tend to skip the first season on instinct.
Besides TNG and Battlestar Galactica, I haven't really seen any SF series (don't watch that much TV.)
If B5 is on netflix, though, I'll check it out after I'm done with TNG.
I think Enterprise's first season is probably the least bad of any of the shows, tbh. Honestly for all the hate Enterprise gets I think it mostly just hovered around a mediocre median for the first three seasons. Season 4 is love/hate though. I'm on the side of love.
firehawk12
Subete no aware
Holy shit. Me too. lol
The Librarian
Banned
DS9's was the most fitting. The theme for DS9 was a saloon in the western town or that town on the edge of the frontier: "seven years at the edge of the final frontier." They were at the edge of what was known and what was unknown. As such, the opening theme for seasons one through three have an emphasis on a lone, yet subdued trumpet, with all other instruments supplementing that trumpet.
But by time of season four, the show had changed because of the events in seasons one through three. No longer was it this isolated port. It became busier, the events surrounding it grew more important, and so the theme song reflected that.
Voyager's theme was very "spacey" and grand. What the show should have been.
But by time of season four, the show had changed because of the events in seasons one through three. No longer was it this isolated port. It became busier, the events surrounding it grew more important, and so the theme song reflected that.
Voyager's theme was very "spacey" and grand. What the show should have been.
Star Trek: The Motion Picture: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PBmI68OyiPQ
Next Generation recycled TMP's music to get their opening theme, and it's considered (debatably) the best Trek TV theme ever.
Enterprise recycled Patch Adams' music to get their opening theme, and it's considered (debatably) the worst Trek TV theme ever.
firehawk12
Subete no aware
I totally forgot that they redid it to make it more uptempo. lol
No one's gonna bend or break me!
Enterprise theme is awful. Apparently at one point they were going to use the Generations theme for the opening, similar to how TNG used the theme from Star Trek: The Motion Picture. Theres a version up on youtube with it. Fits quite well.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BfWgU1fj3nM&
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BfWgU1fj3nM&
Red Arremer
Member
I actually like the song used for the Enterprise intro. Not fitting with its predecessors, but the song itself is fantastic. :<
Well, not counting the Pilot, they appeared in 10 other episodes, out of which 8 are in seasons past the first. The only season without Klingons is season 3 (the Xindi arc one).
There's actually a shitload of actors from B5 in Star Trek.
http://en.memory-alpha.org/wiki/Babylon_5#Actors_who_have_appeared_in_Star_Trek_and_Babylon_5
Well, not counting the Pilot, they appeared in 10 other episodes, out of which 8 are in seasons past the first. The only season without Klingons is season 3 (the Xindi arc one).
There's actually a shitload of actors from B5 in Star Trek.
http://en.memory-alpha.org/wiki/Babylon_5#Actors_who_have_appeared_in_Star_Trek_and_Babylon_5
Genre actors in genre shows. They're everywhere.
Red Arremer
Member
Yeah. Just saying. :3
SpoonyBard
Banned
One of the reasons I like TNG ep Starship Mine.
Henchmen21
Banned
Just so you guys know, Amazon has the first six movie box set on sale for $39.99
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Felix Lighter
Member
What's wrong with Netflix? I've been watching TNG on Netflix and haven't had an issue. I like the newest PC web player.
Escape Goat
Member
Neelix was the worst. Followed by every character on Enterprise aside from T'pol.
I err, umm, well, you see, that's not what I, wait no, I get it, nevermind..
Dat T'pol in the later seasons, there's a Vulcan I would pon farr, if you know what I mean, ehhhhhhhhh?
Felix Lighter
Member
Ha sorry I'm a complete idiot. Obviously, I read way too fast. God, honestly, I'm normally not so stupid.
They made up for it with the Mirror Universe theme tho, so badass:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fk1NK8AXepk
I thought you did it on purpose, lol, I was going to correct you but thought I might be missing the joke.
Ah well, lol.
GameplayWhore
Member
From there I found a video of a cut version of the "Warship Voyager"
Wish they had done more of these sorts of episodes through the seasons instead of a one off, kinda like they did with DS9 but less of the transporting to Alternate Universe back and for and just stand alone episodes with how they dealt with certain parts of their journey.
D
Deleted member 102362
Unconfirmed Member
Pine for, Pawn Stars, porn star, pon farr...man, this language is fun.
I tried so hard to like Enterprise. I remember watching several season one episodes and being like, yeah this is alright, but it wasn't enough to keep me interested.
The Real Abed
Perma-Junior
I lost interest in the second season. Even after the awesome cliffhanger end of the first season where Florida got partially destroyed by a phaser beam... or something. The point is, Florida was partially destroyed, and that's all right by me. (I wonder if Disney World still exists in this future..? And if it was in the path of the beam.)
firehawk12
Subete no aware
The new movie blew up Vulcan and it didn't really matter either. That's continuity for you.
(Also, the Earth was a hellhole pre-First Contact anyway, so I would imagine everything was nuked and destroyed)
So am watching all the Star Trek series for the first time and I've made it to Enterprise (skipped Voyager for now) and I'm finding it enjoyable. It's not amazing or anything but not as bad as I thought it would be. I do like Archer, Trip and Pholx. T'pol and Malcolm are alright depending on the episode. Mayweather and Hoshi are underdeveloped and boring but inoffensive.
The series does seem like a missed opportunity though. Too bad the show runners were hacks.
The series does seem like a missed opportunity though. Too bad the show runners were hacks.
Fixed?
LumpOfCole
Member
Any GAFers here going to the Star Trek: Next Generation 'Fathom' theater event this coming Monday?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eoMuGEeXIZs
It's basically one big Blu-ray commercial, but it seems like it would be fun with pals or taking a Trekkie out on a date.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eoMuGEeXIZs
It's basically one big Blu-ray commercial, but it seems like it would be fun with pals or taking a Trekkie out on a date.
firehawk12
Subete no aware
Yeah, I'm going. The hype surrounding it has gotten me to do something stupid and pre-order the BD set as well, actually.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NhAb_-t8K00
new trailer for S2 of TNG remastered!
new trailer for S2 of TNG remastered!
firehawk12
Subete no aware
PULASKI
Any GAFers here going to the Star Trek: Next Generation 'Fathom' theater event this coming Monday?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eoMuGEeXIZs
It's basically one big Blu-ray commercial, but it seems like it would be fun with pals or taking a Trekkie out on a date.
I'd forgotten about that actually. Not a bad pair to do since they could only choose from Season 1. I know my local Rave is doing it, so I'll probably go.
Henchmen21
Banned
Since no one's mentioned it yet...
http://www.bestbuy.com/site/Star+Tr...cp=1&ci_src=11138&ref=39&CJPID=4176304&loc=01
Only $59.99 at BB. No idea how long it will last at that price, so get it while you can!
http://www.bestbuy.com/site/Star+Tr...cp=1&ci_src=11138&ref=39&CJPID=4176304&loc=01
Only $59.99 at BB. No idea how long it will last at that price, so get it while you can!
firehawk12
Subete no aware
Jesus. It's 80 in Canada. :/
I'm thinking of PM'ing with Amazon.com and having it shipped to Canada, either that or shipping it to a hotel over in the states and picking it up. Amazon.com doesn't normally PM, but they're usually nice enough to do it if you're a good customer.
firehawk12
Subete no aware
I figure the shipping would kill it though? But if you're close the border, that probably helps.