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The GTAIV Comparison Head-to-Head Thread Episode V: An Epic Tale of ManBoobs and Woe
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Francias Castiglione
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Dot50Cal said:
Then something is very wrong with running the game on HDD only.
Dot50Cal said:
About where in LC does this happen? I want to reproduce that here. The reason I ask is I'm trying to reproduce a pop-in that happened to me last night. I was driving at night from East Island City getting ready to get on the East Borough Bridge, and well, one of the middle dividers just popped up, then again it was night and I was running from the LCPD with busted headlights so it was possible that I missed it. First time that ever happened to me.
Francias Castiglione
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spyshagg said:
uhmm 720p, sooo goood.
So glad shit like this is allowed to fly here, makes it such a lovely place to post.
CosmicGroinPull
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PS3 version scales to 1080i? Oh THANK GOD.
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spyshagg said:
uhmm 720p, sooo goood.
I like your work. Good job.
ScrabbleBanshee
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pswii60 said:
If you're counting them, you're counting 90.
Francias Castiglione
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Dot50Cal said:
Which area? You go the hospital nearest to the place you die.
JRW
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Dot50Cal said:Newcomers might be a bit confused about the origin of the tree meme, Especially since all my gif's are dead links now. Heres what spawned that meme:
Open Dir of the gifs I've posted in the thread:
http://dot50cal.the-horror.com/gta4/
Rehost these if you are going to use them or bad things will happen to you.
I remember PS2 verisons of GTA having the same popin issues when burned on crappy media ..but if thats from a retail copy then disregard that idea.
proposition
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I actually heard that the 360 version looks worse than GTA3. That's how bad it looks.
Francias Castiglione
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proposition said:
It might as well be a cellphone game it looks that bad.
Yoboman
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(oh round and round I go, I'm spun out over you)
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Give me a little hope, one small thing to cling to.
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I'm an ever spinning top, whirling around till I drop.
Oh but what am I to do, my mind is in a whirlpool.
Give me a little hope, one small thing to cling to.
You got me going in circles (oh round and round I go)
You got me going in circles
(oh round and round I go, I'm spun out over you)
I'm a faceless clock, with timeless hopes that never stop.
Lord but I feel that way, of my soul. My soul is stay.
Oh but what am I to do, my mind is in a whirlpool.
Give me a little hope, one small thing to cling to.
You got me going in circles (oh round and round I go)
You got me going in circles
(oh round and round I go) I'm spun out over you
(I need you baby) over you (I need you baby) spun out over you.
(I need you baby, I need you baby baby)
I'm spun (I need you baby) I said I'm spun out over you (I need you baby)
Spun out over you (I need you baby, I need you baby, I need you baby)
proposition
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I heard that's actually what it is. The cellphone version that they released on the 360.Francias Castiglione said:
Well, before I even checked this topic today, I called up GAME to see if I could get a copy of the PS3 version as well as the 360 one tonight, and it seems they stopped pre-orders two weeks ago. They said that I may be able to get hold of it tomorrow morning but they'll only be selling to people with pre-orders tonight.
Obviously I don't need to do a comparison now, as we know that it's lower resolution, but resolution isn't the only factor here so I may still pick it up at some point.
It's similar in a way to the flicker filter that older consoles used it was basically a full-screen blur to hide aliasing. It made the whole image look smoother, but that was simply because it was blurrier. It didn't reduce aliasing at all, but for some reason, some people don't find it as noticeable or as offensive like that. Personally, I prefer to have the sharper image rather one that has the same issues, but is also blurred. Take RE4 on the Gamecube vs the Wii for example. The graphics are the same, but Capcom enabled the flicker filter even in 480p on the Wii which means it looks blurred compared to the Gamecube one. The improved control is great, but the game actually looks worse in my opinion if I wanted a blurred image I wouldn't be using a VGA lead on a CRT.
But if you're going to be playing on a 1080p screen, the game is going to end up being blurred anyway, it's just going to be somewhat more blurred on the PS3.
I can't look at an image and say this is 630p nor do I have the inclination to do so. I do see the effects of running at a lower resolution and having it upscaled, however, which I don't like.
And before anyone jumps at me for supporting installs when I was so against the DMC4 one it is forced installs that I am against, not optional ones. I don't see the point in being forced to wait 20 minutes before playing to shave off literally a couple of seconds vs the 360 version. As it wasn't a game I played over and over, I would rather have just loaded it off the disc. With GTA I would absolutely choose to install it even if it was optional on PS3.
This is why I'm all in favour of exclusive games, or a one console future. That way no-one gets a worse version of it. I still believe that it would have been a better game had it been exclusive to the PS3 games like this could make good use of the additional space Blu-Ray offers, and certainly open-world games that do a lot of streaming would benefit from an install.
Obviously I don't need to do a comparison now, as we know that it's lower resolution, but resolution isn't the only factor here so I may still pick it up at some point.
:lol Or it could be that I've always been right, but you've just never agreed with my seemingly arbitrary rules. Eg: can't stand tearing, but I felt that the full-screen blur DMC4 had was even worse. For other people, the better effects [was that ever confirmed in the full retail versions rather than the demo?] and lack of tearing may have been preferable especially if they were playing on an LCD where the blur wasn't noticeable at all.fortified_concept said:
The problem about rendering at a lower resolution isn't the extra aliasing, in my opinion it's that the consoles force you to upscale it which results in a soft image [which most people with HDTVs won't notice] and things like the grass or other fine details in CoD4 shimmer like crazy. While MGO looks nice and smooth overall, it's because there's not a lot of fine details there. Things like the back of the tranq. gun, barbed wire at the top of gates/walls etc all shimmer as a result of the lower resolution.dark10x said:
It's similar in a way to the flicker filter that older consoles used it was basically a full-screen blur to hide aliasing. It made the whole image look smoother, but that was simply because it was blurrier. It didn't reduce aliasing at all, but for some reason, some people don't find it as noticeable or as offensive like that. Personally, I prefer to have the sharper image rather one that has the same issues, but is also blurred. Take RE4 on the Gamecube vs the Wii for example. The graphics are the same, but Capcom enabled the flicker filter even in 480p on the Wii which means it looks blurred compared to the Gamecube one. The improved control is great, but the game actually looks worse in my opinion if I wanted a blurred image I wouldn't be using a VGA lead on a CRT.
It's IGN's captures that make them look the same IGN's capture hardware is pretty awful and makes even 720p native games look blurred._leech_ said:
But if you're going to be playing on a 1080p screen, the game is going to end up being blurred anyway, it's just going to be somewhat more blurred on the PS3.
Seeing as I use a CRT, which is effectively 720p native [or 480p native, 1080p native etc] then the difference is quite obvious on my screen when a game is running at a lower resolution and being upscaled. If the PS3 could send 1120x630 to my screen it wouldn't be an issue, but it forces it to be scaled to 720p/1080p.xero273 said:
I can't look at an image and say this is 630p nor do I have the inclination to do so. I do see the effects of running at a lower resolution and having it upscaled, however, which I don't like.
It looks bad to me, but not because it's 630p but because IGN have over-sharpened the really soft image they got from their crap capture hardware. And isn't the post-processing all specualtion at this point? For all we know the 360 looks identical in that location/time of day, but just a bit sharper.dark10x said:
I agree completely I have a group of friends I want to play this with on both platforms. I would much rather that it was exclusive to the PS3 as it would have been a better game overall. Shame Microsoft won't let you install it on the hard drive. Ok, it might take up too much room on a 20gb machine, but I've got something like 8090gb free on my Elite.Dot50Cal said:
And before anyone jumps at me for supporting installs when I was so against the DMC4 one it is forced installs that I am against, not optional ones. I don't see the point in being forced to wait 20 minutes before playing to shave off literally a couple of seconds vs the 360 version. As it wasn't a game I played over and over, I would rather have just loaded it off the disc. With GTA I would absolutely choose to install it even if it was optional on PS3.
This is why I'm all in favour of exclusive games, or a one console future. That way no-one gets a worse version of it. I still believe that it would have been a better game had it been exclusive to the PS3 games like this could make good use of the additional space Blu-Ray offers, and certainly open-world games that do a lot of streaming would benefit from an install.
He mistakenly thought I posted over at Gamespot saying the PS3 version was confirmed to be running at a lower resolution, using my own post from here as evidence. If that had been the case, I should have been banned, but it was someone else I don't post on the Gamespot boards, and I don't know anyone that does post on them.squicken said:
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Fixed for accuracy.ScrabbleBanshee said:
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Jtyettis said:
God damn, that was insanely fast.
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